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Red templar heraldy

You're the one, who made Venatori heraldy, right? I'd like to ask you for making red templar heraldy. Based on their banner, I assume their heraldy is templar heraldy with yellow instead of white and red instead of blue.Andrzej.lewinski.351 (talk) 23:22, January 7, 2015 (UTC)

Mostlyautumn deleted my access to item type's parameters

you told me to not make pages in the main wiki, so I moved pages I wrote to my own namespace. I had copy/pasted and edited a style in one of those pages for items to layout how I wanted it. but now User:Mostlyautumn has deleted the only line I had in the main wiki, that gives me access to the items' member values. how do I regain access? Meh92 (talk) 02:51, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

Re: checking user

Seems that wikia doesn't see a reason to do the check and has refused... regardless, I'm not seeing much value in that user's accusation, so hopefully it won't become a trend. --Kelcat Talk 00:35, March 10, 2015 (UTC)


Hey, Viktoria! Nice to see you doing a bit of editing. How have you been doing? --Kelcat Talk 02:17, June 27, 2016 (UTC)

Hey Kelcat! I am great, what about you? Yeah, I have a bit of time so I am going through again my main DAO walkthrough. While playing, I was amazed that there is still information which has not yet been uncovered. I also provided to HD3 some Dragon Age dev contacts, in case you also need my help somewhere please do share! Viktoria Landers 15:36, June 27, 2016 (UTC)
Oh by the way, there seems to be a small coding error on the value line of the RecipeTransformer of DAO recipes. Example. Viktoria Landers 10:42, June 28, 2016 (UTC)
Doing good! Though I haven't had much time to do any editing other than keeping an eye out for vandalism and basic maintenance. And yeah, it always surprises me as to how much info has yet to be found, even in Origins. There are still a few developers from the first game that don't have their own article yet, and someday I'd like to get more voice actor articles up and running.
Dwarven articles are something that never seem to get as much attention as other subjects, so I'm always happy to see you and LadyAeducan around! I'll take a look at the recipe transformer and see what's up. Fixed it. Looks like Template:RecipeInfoBox got messed up when it was updated to the new "portable infobox" structure. --Kelcat Talk 04:25, June 30, 2016 (UTC)

Low Quality Image

Hey Viktoria, i'll get back to you on skype about that image -Seekers of Truth heraldryHD3 (Talk) 22:19, July 4, 2016 (UTC)

Michel de Chevin picture

Please replace Michel de Chevin picture - this one to better version of him from HoDA

Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 10:30, April 27, 2017‎

No problem, done! Viktoria Landers 09:19, April 29, 2017 (UTC)

Unnamed topic #1

Boo. Eons and no speak. How is it going? This place seems kind of empty and dead now, huh? Still keeping up some of the editing, I see. Hope you are well. EzzyD (talk) 02:22, May 20, 2017 (UTC)

Hey Ezzy Wave emote2 I am great, what about you? Yes, I am doing the odd edit here and there, but nothing substantial or consistent. I am usually around on skype though. Viktoria Landers 07:53, May 21, 2017 (UTC)

Unnamed topic #2

If Shayle was her original name then why is it spelled differently in every other mention except that on? Yours Truly Valenthyne (talk) 14:13, June 5, 2017 (UTC)

Hey there! That is because she barely remembers her long past, she is a golem for more than a thousand years. Here is a video finding her original name when she was part of House Cadash. Viktoria Landers 15:14, June 5, 2017 (UTC)

Andres Ponce illustrations for DA books

Here are all images I've found from Andres Ponce, illustrator for DA books.

Please add images to this wiki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:15, October 21, 2017‎

Hello there. I checked the "DA books", there is no Andres Ponce. Furthermore, I don't know the context behind those black and white drawings. And I don't speak Russian either. Viktoria Landers 11:01, October 21, 2017 (UTC)

Some of your edits to mine


I'd like to understand why you have eliminated several of my sub-section links to certain pages and changed them to the respective base page, e.g. on the Note: The Lost Outpost Plaque and the Flooded Caves.

Besides, I do like more – and have seen such formatting on many pages here – if a title and the name that follows are both linked instead of only either title or name, as in "King Kelgak" versus "King Kelgak". Purely for aesthetic reasons.

Greetings -- UserCCCSig -- You talkin' to me? -- cCContributions -- 13:10, October 26, 2017 (UTC)

Hey there!
About eliminating sub-section links: In many cases paragraph names change quite often so a working link to a sub-section may not work later even with the smallest of changes. That's why I personally avoid direct links to paragraphs unless the page is huge and difficult to navigate or if the page is on a completely different subject than the one you were looking for when clicking the link. In this case we know nothing of Kelgak, a direct link to the list of kings and queens would not provide any more info to readers who would probably click to learn more about this character. If they - however - want to learn more about dwarven royalty then, the non sub-section link is perfect for them.
About formatting: If a name is linked then readers presume it leads to their character page or at least to a page they'll find more info about that character. This does not happen in either case so to avoid confusion I linked only the "king" word for those interested to learn more about dwarven royalty.
In any case I am not feeling very strongly about either case, I just thought that would be the best solution. What do you think? Viktoria Landers 14:17, October 26, 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for clarifying!
Yes, I know that such links get broken (point to the page in general) if the subsection's header is changed – but I typically ignore it, at least when I think it's a good title and less prone to a change than others might be … Icon wink
Of course everybody could use their browser's search feature after clicking that link and landing on a page with a different name and apparently only a loose connection to where they came from. But is in that case not the link to the e.g. lost thaigs a little more convenient if someone wouldn't like (or know of) that search feature, landing at a list that at least is a little more close to what they were looking for?
And I indeed don't agree with your note that "[…] we know nothing of Kelgak, a direct link to the list of kings and queens would not provide any more info to readers […]" – a direct link to the kings' section would provide exactly that more info: that he was king.
Besides, you placed some link, Gundaar, that in fact is only a redirect, namely to a subsection I had linked before without using that redirect. Icon wink (Okay, mine was one step deeper into the subsections.)
And as I now already used the king as example, I can repeat my point: you say, clicking on a link that visually implies, it would point to a page that's named "King Kelgak", will mislead the reader. But again, in fact the reader lands on a section of a page that has information about "King Kelgak" (though only the same as on the source page, for now). So what's wrong about that?
You wanted my thoughts? There they are. Smiley
The Dwarven royalty merely replicates the info found in the note. Nothing more about Kelgak can be found by clicking that link. That was my point. Viktoria Landers 15:44, October 26, 2017 (UTC)
Another thing …
Some time ago I've started redoing all those notes, which before had all a rather poor layout. I've not enhanced it that much, but at least tried to unify it. (I've currently taken a break from it, but didn't forget it.) You can see my progress on my user profile, in a table after scrolling down a bit.
What I have done was adding an intro section to each note that not only says "is a note in DA:I", but also has the location and in some cases a brief description of its content or the author. Now you did split this intro for one of those notes and added a background section. That, by the way, still includes the note's location. Would you mind to undo that specific change? Or should this be rather done to all notes, then? -- UserCCCSig -- You talkin' to me? -- cCContributions -- 15:22, October 26, 2017 (UTC)
I didn't know about your work there. Actually all notes/objects/items in the wiki have a standard introductory layout. For example: "The Lost Outpost Plaque is a note in Dragon Age: Inquisition." or "Dwarven Longsword is a longsword in Dragon Age: Origins".
Then if there is some background info from that object, we have a "Background" paragraph explaining that. Example. Don't you think it's better to follow the established convention? If we are to establish a new introductory layout I think we should first get more opinions on this matter. Viktoria Landers 15:44, October 26, 2017 (UTC)
I didn't want to establish a new basic layout, only improve those poor articles. Location, some sort of background, intro – all are done in one short sentence for the most notes. Separating that into "Intro", "Background", "Acquisition" would blow up the articles too much, I think. There are notes which have one single sentence as actual content …
And as for that single sentenceDA:LEAD says, "The lead should be capable of standing alone as a concise overview of the article, establishing context, and explaining why the subject is interesting or notable. It should be either one or two paragraphs long, and should be written in a clear and accessible style so that the reader is encouraged to read the rest of the article." That leaves much more leeway than that really, really short five-words sentence that's part of so many articles here and as well could be omitted. A single sentence is no section! My opinion. -- UserCCCSig -- You talkin' to me? -- cCContributions -- 16:06, October 26, 2017 (UTC)
Well, the problem with your lead is that it fails conformity. Unless it's a lore page all articles start with a standard introduction -- which they define basically what this page is about (eg. longsword in DAO or a note in DAI). Pretty austere, I know, but the rest of the information is then spread into separate paragraphs (Acquisition, Background, etc) no matter their size.
DA:MOS cannot contain so much information regarding every bit of convention (well it can but no one would read it afterwards), it defines the most general ones. So again I don't think I should be the only person to discuss this, I think we should seek more opinions on this matter. Basically show them each version and ask them which one they prefer? An idea. Viktoria Landers 16:32, October 26, 2017 (UTC)
Okay! I'll get back to this when I take up work again on those notes. Review those I've done, check what could/should get its own sections, see if there's more to add. And then probably make sections – or regard your proposal. Smiley Agree? -- UserCCCSig -- You talkin' to me? -- cCContributions -- 16:41, October 26, 2017 (UTC)
No problem :) Just give me some time first. I have also taken a few screenshots of notes during my own walkthrough so this is a subject which I would have started at some point even without our discussion. Viktoria Landers 00:04, October 28, 2017 (UTC)
Fine! Would be nice if you could add them to Category:Dragon Age: Inquisition note images, so I get notified about them and can add them to my table. Or, if you think that's better or necessary, copy that table to this category's talk page and/or make a project out of it, so everybody has access. -- UserCCCSig -- You talkin' to me? -- cCContributions -- 12:45, October 28, 2017 (UTC)

Spoiler Tags

Hi, Victoria. I created a forum topic on spoiler tags, curious to learn your opinion. Asherinka (talk) 12:40, November 4, 2017 (UTC)

Darkness = Taint

Hi, Victoria. Well, look at these lines and decide if that's enough evidence for you.

"There is a taint that is within the darkspawn. A darkness that pervades us, compels us, drives us to rail against the light. It is in our blood and corrupts the very world around us. <..> It is also within your blood. It is what makes you what you are, what you sense in us and we in you. <..> You take that darkness into you. <..> You use it to fight against us. Your immunity to its effects is not complete, however. When the corruption takes its inevitable toll, you come into the Deep Roads. Alone. To fight against us one last time." - the Architect to Bregan, Dragon Age: The Calling, Chapter 2
He could faintly make out the sounds they made, the unnatural rattling and the dry hiss that had haunted his dreams ever since the Joining, when he had taken their dark essence inside himself. - Bregan's thoughts, the same chapter
The darkspawn were connected to each other by the same dark force that the Grey Wardens used to sense them.. - Bregan again
.. and he could feel the dark corruption oozing into his blood. - and again
Having only become a Grey Warden recently, the idea that she might one day live long enough for the dark taint to force her into such a choice seemed impossible. - About Fiona, Chapter 3
“We are things of darkness, human. <> To us, the call is the only light we shall ever know.” - the Architect about the call of the Archdemon, Chapter 6, etc
If you have Kindle Edition of the Calling, just type "dark" to see how Gaider used the word there)

It resembled a dragon in outward form, but no dragon was ever so terrible within. Darkness crackled around it, and darkness was its soul. - Isseya sees the Archdemon, Dragon Age: The Last Flight, Chapter 5
There was no sense of the Fade in its spell; nothing in the realm of dream or nightmare could have encompassed what the Archdemon made. It was a cyclone of darkness both spiritual and physical. - About Archdemon's breath, the same chapter

They spit on our deeds and claim we brought darkness into the world. We discovered the darkness. We claimed it as our own, let it permeate our being. - Corypheus about Magisters Sidereal and what they found in the Black City, Dragon Age: Inquisition (must side with templars)

Though the darkness calls me down, you know we all are dying. <..> Before darkness claims our souls, let us see that shred of blue. - song about the Calling, Dragon Age: Inquisition

I'm pretty sure there were more lines like that, I don't remember them all. Given how many times darkness and taint were used as synonyms so far, I think it is safe to assume that it is the intended meaning.
I wouldn't mind if you remove the reference if you believe these to be mere coincidence, though. Asherinka (talk) 18:47, November 13, 2017 (UTC)

Yes I am aware that the Wardens use this word in this context. If you check the Chant of Light verses including the words of the elf Shartan or the context in which the Templar Order uses that word (against maleficarum, etc) the term has no exclusive use for darkspawn.
In fact the legend about Andruil most likely was made long before Arlathan fell, thus the Second Sin was not committed. So no darkspawn. In any case, isn't that too much speculation to use it as a fact? Viktoria Landers 19:01, November 13, 2017 (UTC)
We know for fact that the taint existed before the Second Sin was committed, because red lyrium is tainted and is found in the Primeval Thaig that existed before the First Blight. As Corypheus put it, the magisters merely discovered the taint. But as I've said, I wouldn't argue about it now, if you remove it, so be it. I'll just add it a few installments later when it is confirmed in-game :) Asherinka (talk) 19:10, November 13, 2017 (UTC)
Haha! Perhaps we should add a Dragon Age 5 spoiler on the page? Viktoria Landers 19:26, November 13, 2017 (UTC)
We'd have to invent a good one-liner for it. I'm not up for the challenge :( Asherinka (talk) 19:28, November 13, 2017 (UTC)
Oh that's the easy part with the DA5 spoiler. The hard part is to convince Kelcat & Co that Asher has seen the future! Viktoria Landers 19:42, November 13, 2017 (UTC)

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Thanks for fixing that vandal's edits. I've blocked the IP -Seekers of Truth heraldryHD3 (Talk) 17:33, November 21, 2017 (UTC)

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