Location Help Edit

Forum:Locations_Icons#Locations - Can you help me with your admin powers :)  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 09:43, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Fascinating facts Edit

Interesting indeed. I think I'll change all the links in my doc next time I edit it to point to Project:Blah - it looks much neater. And I'll start up Project_talk pages too, just because I can (well, because it might be useful, too). It's also good we have a list of videos (why someone uploaded Video:Oskar Schindler- What is Power is a mystery to me). I've had it in the back of my mind for a little while that perhaps I ought to take a look at uploaded vids a view to (1) checking they really are what they purport to be, in case no other admin has had time to and, (2) thinking about whether we need a video policy to sit alongside the image policy. Maybe one day I'll do that - but it would probably be as part of the front page random media thingy as you mention, and I think Awakenings trailers are likely to keep us happy there for a while yet! Zoev talk 23:35, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Noooo Edit

Must be strong and mustn't cry, but no more kittens? Why Tierrie, why? Friendship smallLoleil Talk 03:23, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Well I suppose it is exuberant, if a little terrifying up close, and I stand in awe of your avatar icons back stories! Friendship smallLoleil Talk 05:30, February 4, 2010 (UTC)
Heh, I don't know that's a pretty good name too. Friendship smallLoleil Talk 05:51, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Spoilers Hide/Show Edit

Are you still working on this? I'm playing ME2 right now, just beat it last night, thinking about going again on it, or just going back to DA. I been working on the quests one at a time, since there are so many side quests in this game, not that I am complaining. Polexian ♦♦Talk♦♦ ♠♠Leave Message♠♠ 15:58, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

A new Kitty! Edit

hehe, I like your new kitty but I liked the old one too, they both look great :D  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 17:23, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Project Bodahn / Merchants Edit

Question: on the templates, if the item has a # x2-x99, should it have a column or be mentioned with the item name. Suggestion: align prices 'right' not 'left' like in game easy to read (Please :D). Concern: Cost Ratio, how will that be managed? If my question/concern are address, I will start taking this baby on, if I have issues with the toolset, I might need your assistance. But if you like immediately I can start changing over my current merchant lists to the new template.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 20:48, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Also suggestions more room for the item name less for the prices, it looks to cramped for a small computer screen and the prices have too much room on widescreen.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 20:54, February 4, 2010 (UTC)
Ah, gotcha, your right this is different. Ok, when you work out the bugs lemme know, so I know that I got the idea and can use it properly. Credit, hell no, I am helping on a project that several users have put effort into I won't claim any credit for it unless everyone else is too including you :).  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 21:07, February 4, 2010 (UTC)
Also, when an item doesn't cost 1DAO goldpiece trans or more can we not have a 0DAO goldpiece trans it looks bad, and the symbol is associated with it costing gold, but that might be one of your bugs your are working out.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 21:28, February 4, 2010 (UTC)
Looks good a lot of things to go through, like all the items miss priced (if I was doing this project I'd prolly go through all items price check style first off), # of items (limited and 2+) and Cost Ratio (this can always be fixed with a disclaimer). Besides that I am happy to help if you need me, I like helping :)  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 23:11, February 4, 2010 (UTC)
Cool, I might take me to later tonight or tomorrow to finish for the merchants mark up and down updates, I have family visiting for the Olympics, so computer time is unpredictable but I can certainly start :). One more suggestion tho, can value be hidden from the transformers? this may discourage people from changing the values to cost and I see no point seeing the value of 0DAO bronzepiece trans to 99DAO silverpiece trans (which is the value of most items) on infoboxes for the items and looks messy for items that aren't weapons/armor.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 23:33, February 4, 2010 (UTC)
Yes, values hidden on infoboxes on the articles, and yes that sounds good.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 23:52, February 4, 2010 (UTC)
Quartermaster has 2 mark ups 115% and 200% (other goods), I am not sure what to do about that.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 00:20, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
k, and I believe it is pre and post joining not wilds/ unless you weren't being specific. Also what about # of items that the merchant has? or is that a work in progress too?  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 00:55, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
Oh, and recipes aren't working.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 01:03, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
Nice, thanks, ya I added the merchantrow to the recipetransformer and wondered why it was still not working :P  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 03:33, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
Hmm, when I finished Barlin, Trap Trigger was the only one that didn't work and the value is there, and everything looks right... maybe I can't see the forest for the trees. Can you double check this for me? please :)  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 05:31, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
FYI, Bodahn has 1.10 (unlike his usual 1.5) mark up on his Inventory (final battle), which is all new items too. So he'll be like the Quartermaster.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 06:10, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
I'll do the Item Cat for all items, I need to change all my giftstransformer to itemtransformer because it was created originally to not have the extra fields (mainly values) showing but now that goes against Project Bodahn so I have to anyways. Why stop there right? So, ya I'll manually input the category Items to each item.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 06:23, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
eeekk! I can't get that Bodahn and Bodahn(redcliffe) to work on the same page help! Its all 0DAO bronzepiece transs lol  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 08:18, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
No worries, I got it! or at least it looks like it.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 08:37, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Awesome spoiler template Edit

I really like the Template:SpoilerDAO. Well done!  —Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 23:21, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Lyrium Potions Edit

Thanks! Since I'm a wiki newb and this was my first page ever, I gotta figure out what a Main template is & how it applies.

DAO gold stack"Cooper Black","serif"; color:#B4B4FF" _rte_style="font-family:"Cooper Black","serif"; color:#B4B4FF" _rte_attribs=" style='font-family:Cooper Black,serif; color:#B4B4FF'">J"Cooper Black","serif"; color:#A0A0FF" _rte_style="font-family:"Cooper Black","serif"; color:#A0A0FF" _rte_attribs=" style='font-family:Cooper Black,serif; color:#A0A0FF'">e"Cooper Black","serif"; color:#8C8CFF" _rte_style="font-family:"Cooper Black","serif"; color:#8C8CFF" _rte_attribs=" style='font-family:Cooper Black,serif; color:#8C8CFF'">l"Cooper Black","serif"; color:#7878FF" _rte_style="font-family:"Cooper Black","serif"; color:#7878FF" _rte_attribs=" style='font-family:Cooper Black,serif; color:#7878FF'">l"Cooper Black","serif"; color:#6464FF" _rte_style="font-family:"Cooper Black","serif"; color:#6464FF" _rte_attribs=" style='font-family:Cooper Black,serif; color:#6464FF'">y"Cooper Black","serif"; color:#5050FF" _rte_style="font-family:"Cooper Black","serif"; color:#5050FF" _rte_attribs=" style='font-family:Cooper Black,serif; color:#5050FF'">b"Cooper Black","serif"; color:#3C3CFF" _rte_style="font-family:"Cooper Black","serif"; color:#3C3CFF" _rte_attribs=" style='font-family:Cooper Black,serif; color:#3C3CFF'">u"Cooper Black","serif"; color:#2828FF" _rte_style="font-family:"Cooper Black","serif"; color:#2828FF" _rte_attribs=" style='font-family:Cooper Black,serif; color:#2828FF'">g

Double Check Edit

Hey Tierrie Hollowness just wanted me to check whether this directive

"Items included with ItemTransformer will show up as 0 DAO bronzepiece trans. This is a bug because Template:ItemTransformer inherits Template:ItemInfoBox which includes [[Category:Item]]. Someone's gonna have to go in and manually insert Category:Item to the items so I can finally remove it from the InfoBox -- tierrie talk contr 06:16, February 5, 2010 (UTC)"

included armour and weapons, given the trouble of getting them not to be items I'd assumed that it did not, but I figure there's no harm in making absolutely sure. Friendship smallLoleil Talk 08:15, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

companions. Edit

we are having a discussion on this here... Talk:Companions. Don't want you to miss out. Polexian ♦♦Talk♦♦ ♠♠Leave Message♠♠ 15:35, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Quest Page Edit

Would like to do a new layout on the quest page. What do you think? User:Polexian/Sandbox Polexian ♦♦Talk♦♦ ♠♠Leave Message♠♠ 03:58, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Total armor for armor sets Edit

So ... Legendary Items. Your forum topic reminded me I'd been thinking of adding the best mage gloves (Black Hand Gauntlets, Cinderfel Gauntlets, Ashen Gloves, Silk Weave Gloves and whatever the electrical ones are - can't quite remember off the top of my head.) I thought I'd stick them as suggestions on Talk:Legendary Items first, but when I looked at that I saw a comment from PhilV that made me think I needed to talk to you first. I think the page layout has changed since he left the comment, so these are my questions inspired by him, rather than his questions exactly.

  • I think it would be useful to have total armor and fatigue for armor sets. It would be easy enough to manually add up the armor and fatigue values for the constituent items and enter these into the infoboxes. (I'm assuming that simple addition of the base item values would give us the values we want? Any additional armor and fatigue bonuses already appear in the enahncements column.) But not having thought deeply about equipment, I thought I'd best check there's not a glaring flaw with this idea, and that there wasn't some cunning template thing that can be done/you were planning to calculate the totals from the infoboxes of the individual items.
  • PhilV is also quite right that items of different types are mixed together, eg the Light Armor section has a chestpiece, gloves and boots. I'm not sure this matters: it's obvious from many items' names what they are, and if it's not then users can click through to the item page to find out. Do you agree, or do you think this is an issue that needs to be addressed?

Many thanks for your thoughts, O Juggernaut master! Zoev talk 13:25, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Image Sizes Edit

Would you be able to tell me which the image sizes on the parent pages is throwing off the line up of the icons? User:Polexian/Sandbox Polexian ♦♦Talk♦♦ ♠♠Leave Message♠♠ 15:13, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Dotted lines are the images that are throwing off table.. Solid lines are the ones that are messed up because of the dotted lines.

Polexian ♦♦Talk♦♦ ♠♠Leave Message♠♠ 12:23, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Project Bodahn / Merchants (Part II) Edit

Bump in the road, when getting to Mikhael Dryden he actually sells armor by tier 5-7 (ie Studded Helmet(Drakeskin), Studded Helmet(Inscribed) and Studded Helmet(Reinforced)), unlike the rest of the merchants where the tier levels with you. I am not sure how we are going to work out cost ratio and now sold by tier but I'd thought I let you know. I mean it be scary to input each piece of equipment by tier, it be like x7 of all current weapons and armor, eewww.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 17:15, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Merchants all have Inventory now. Still lots of incorrect values (I see sell back values, cost values etc.), cost ratio for tiers needs to be figured out, the Mikhael Dryden thing (above), the 2 different prices for backpacks needs a solution and I think all specialization manuals have a set price no matter the mark up or down, and # of items (ie x2 - x99) I think need to be added to the merchant lists. Besides that we are good, let me know what you want me to do next about this, I don't know if these issues want to be run-through with the other admins or not first.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 00:46, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

No worries, i am away atm too. I am leaving this message on a shiiiit computer this message took five minutes to write, I want to cry , LOL. But I;ll be home latertoday.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 00:16, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Super cool, I'll try to start that tonight :D  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 02:53, February 11, 2010 (UTC)
OH, little hiccup pages like Alarith got squished on regular screen mode, honestly I left out the header quantity, it should be a nobrainer and the character are no more than 3 (ie. x99), and I think that should fix that problem.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 03:45, February 11, 2010 (UTC)
Have you had a chance to look into this? I'd do it my self but I don't want to mess with your template :P  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 20:03, February 11, 2010 (UTC)
Oh, sorry , ok if you lets say have a non wide screen and open merchant lists that falls beside the charactertransformer, the prices get so squished it is like this:

DAO silverpiece trans
DAO bronzepiece trans

Before it didn't do that and on wide or non wide view it looked fine, I was thinking it is because of the length of the Quantity header, maybe if you reduce the column size, remove the header or minimize it (ie. Qty), it will be corrected. Just pretend you are looking at the Alarith on a small screen and minimize your window to an approx size you shoudl see the issue. [Edit: just to clarify widescreen it looks fine, only on small screen it gibs up]  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 20:16, February 11, 2010 (UTC)
I know I am not the most coherent individual, it probably because I learned one language in school till grade 5, changed schools and learn the at home language, it still holds me back in writing skills. So never feel restraint to ask me, as Ricki Ricardo would say to Lucy: 'Splain'! :P  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 20:23, February 11, 2010 (UTC)
That just forces to past the charactertransformer and I thought it looked good beside it when it was applicable or more, 'a less 100% width table' and left 'a little more narrower'. I feel the Quantity column is too wide, for wide or non wide screen, the rest of the columns seem fine for width. But if this is your intension and you are happy with it, I guess, I really can't go against that, I mean your the boss, boss.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 20:30, February 11, 2010 (UTC)
Hhmmm, header didn't make any difference, it must just be the column width it self. Meh, I just like saying boss, not really as in your the wiki overlord or anything, just playing :P  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 20:41, February 11, 2010 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be more convenient to have the Merchants name on the availability list, or is that a new can of worms?  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 20:44, February 11, 2010 (UTC)
Haha, we said that nearly at the same time. :P  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 20:45, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Forgive it not aligning but I am thinking more like this.

Name Qty Buy Price Sell price
Rgt ico flask Flask x99
1DAO silverpiece trans 50DAO bronzepiece trans


Name Buy Price Sell price
Rgt ico flask Flask x99
1DAO silverpiece trans 50DAO bronzepiece trans

What do you think?  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 20:54, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, will do , btw I added the quantities to the all the Merchants.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 23:18, February 16, 2010 (UTC)
Ok, the changes I made fixes it for me but make sure it is still to your liking cause we can always revert it back.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 23:29, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Wade's Armor Edit

"The acquisition method of getting Wade's armor is available at Wade. Instead of putting it in 8 different locations (4 weight classes x normal/superior versions), it would be better if you made a link to Wade instead?"

I had thought of that, but one key thing that I remembered when I was looking for information on this wiki was that I wanted the info on the page of that item, not have to go through 2-3 pages before I had what I needed. I decided to put the acquisition info on all the pages because it wasn't too long, it made the page look complete, and it was a lot simpler for the end user to look there instead of having to scroll down all of Wade's considerable page.

Template page Edit

I think I have vague memories of reading it in the distant past. Looking at it now it looks very handy indeed, all it's really missing is info on the new spoilers. I'll see if I can update the welcome message to send people there. Friendship smallLoleil Talk 01:36, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Recipe mishaps Edit

The infoboxes on the recipe pages appear to be misbehaving. As the wiki's Emperor of templates I was hoping you could have a look. Friendship smallLoleil Talk 09:23, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

ColorTableHeader Edit

Should we change this to RedColorTableHeader? forward it to the new page, that way in the future we could have multiple color headers described by the first word? Polexian ♦♦Talk♦♦ ♠♠Leave Message♠♠ 12:30, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

DPL Edit

Could you install this extension please? Polexian ♦♦Talk♦♦ ♠♠Leave Message♠♠ 14:28, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Downloadable Content Edit

OK. Reverted. Polexian ♦♦Talk♦♦ ♠♠Leave Message♠♠ 17:38, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to upset you, just trying to make it better. Polexian ♦♦Talk♦♦ ♠♠Leave Message♠♠ 17:42, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

A Job Edit

Do you have anything I could work on? Holl has took all the jobs. :/ Polexian ♦♦Talk♦♦ ♠♠Leave Message♠♠ 18:35, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

color stats sounds like a challenge. I'll take it. Did you get that extension installed yet? Polexian ♦♦Talk♦♦ ♠♠Leave Message♠♠ 04:03, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Initial Template finished. Template:Approval [[Image:Ico_Expression error: Unrecognised word "image".Appr_Heart.png|20px|link=Approval (Origins)]] Dog Expression error: Unrecognised word "image".pproves (Expression error: Unrecognised word "image".) [[Image:Ico_Expression error: Unrecognised word "image".Appr_Heart.png|20px|link=Approval (Origins)]] Shale Expression error: Unrecognised word "image".pproves (Expression error: Unrecognised word "image".) [[Image:Ico_Expression error: Unrecognised word "image".Appr_Heart.png|20px|link=Approval (Origins)]] Zevran Expression error: Unrecognised word "image".pproves (Expression error: Unrecognised word "image".) [[Image:Ico_Expression error: Unrecognised word "image".Appr_Heart.png|20px|link=Approval (Origins)]] Wynne Expression error: Unrecognised word "image".pproves (Expression error: Unrecognised word "image".) [[Image:Ico_Expression error: Unrecognised word "image".Appr_Heart.png|20px|link=Approval (Origins)]] Leliana Expression error: Unrecognised word "image".pproves (Expression error: Unrecognised word "image".) [[Image:Ico_Expression error: Unrecognised word "image".Appr_Heart.png|20px|link=Approval (Origins)]] Alistair Expression error: Unrecognised word "image".pproves (Expression error: Unrecognised word "image".) [[Image:Ico_Expression error: Unrecognised word "image".Appr_Heart.png|20px|link=Approval (Origins)]] Morrigan Expression error: Unrecognised word "image".pproves (Expression error: Unrecognised word "image".) [[Image:Ico_Expression error: Unrecognised word "image".Appr_Heart.png|20px|link=Approval (Origins)]] Sten Expression error: Unrecognised word "image".pproves (Expression error: Unrecognised word "image".) [[Image:Ico_Expression error: Unrecognised word "image".Appr_Heart.png|20px|link=Approval (Origins)]] Oghren Expression error: Unrecognised word "image".pproves (Expression error: Unrecognised word "image".)

[[Image:Ico_Expression error: Unrecognised word "noimage".Appr_Heart.png|20px|link=Approval (Origins)]] Alistair Expression error: Unrecognised word "noimage".pproves (Expression error: Unrecognised word "noimage".) [[Image:Ico_Expression error: Unrecognised word "noimage".Appr_Heart.png|20px|link=Approval (Origins)]] Morrigan Expression error: Unrecognised word "noimage".pproves (Expression error: Unrecognised word "noimage".) Polexian ♦♦Talk♦♦ ♠♠Leave Message♠♠ 04:33, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

My Idea for Approval/Disapproval, just my p's and q's.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 06:21, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Mad HermitEdit

My mistake. What's weird is that I've been visiting this Wiki daily for over a month and I don't remember ever having to click on the spoiller banner to see the notes. Veshialle 07:55, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

I think it is a nice improvement. I was just accustomed to the old way and didn't really read the banner.

BTW... It is incredible how much content there is in this game! I am playing it for the sixth time and still finding new side quests, dialog options, etc.Today I found out about Ageless and the purpose of the landmarks. Incredible! Veshialle 09:47, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Dynamic page linking installed. Edit

Check out what we can do..

User:Polexian/Sandbox Polexian ♦♦Talk♦♦ ♠♠Leave Message♠♠ 22:55, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Look at the code now. That is just the basid of DPL, there is so much more we can do. Polexian ♦♦Talk♦♦ ♠♠Leave Message♠♠ 00:29, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Spoilers Edit

We have a couple spoiler templates, but I think we can only have one, called Template:Spoiler All we have to do is perform if checks on them inside the template and then it will print the one we want instead of having to look for the correct file. What do you think? I have some massive if checks here, and if done correctly it will work flawlessly. Polexian ♦♦Talk♦♦ ♠♠Leave Message♠♠ 14:06, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Approval Edit

Forum:Approval On this page at the bottom, how would I keep the approval on the same line as the dialog at the very bottom with shale. I tried using tables tag's but then they throw off the end of the document. Polexian ♦♦Talk♦♦ ♠♠Leave Message♠♠ 15:58, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Slow render Edit

Hi tierrie. As far as I know, MediaWiki caches pages by default, so I don't think you need to do anything to force the use of caching. As for other ways to optimize the speed, I don't know of anything, but I would suggest asking in the Wikia Community Forum. A lot of knowledgeable people post there, so maybe someone will have a solution. JoePlay@fandom (talk) 17:43, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Project Boo Edit

I ma hella confused, that is not English on purpose right :P. So since I am confused, I'll comment when I am less confused :P  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 20:58, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, nice!

Moved to: Forum:New Concepts - In Game Look

Ok, I managed that but I am having a hell of a time trying to align it as it was before.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 23:32, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Nice! That is perfect. BTW, put it in a sandbox ;) My talk page fills up too fast if there's images on it. -- tierrie talk contr 23:36, February 11, 2010 (UTC)
It is already in my sand box, and while you were messaging me I updated the forum instead, and was on my way here to do the move :D  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 23:52, February 11, 2010 (UTC)
About the sections, that was my original idea but I never did it before, so I am not sure how, I tested Juggernaut Helm and still has room but if we do run out, so I didn't try yet. And my second option was the in game scroll if it does get to long, but last time I did the scrolls on this site it was a mess, I guess I forgot how to do customized scroll bars : /  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 23:58, February 11, 2010 (UTC)
Ya, I mean if we could or a close non copy right second, but for now should be fine, do you think you could help me with the alignment with the border included sample? I am out of ideas on that one.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 00:25, February 12, 2010 (UTC)
Its the in-game default, and I personally don't find it so bad as that, I don't think it needs to be shortened. I haven't even thought where to start if we are going to be height sensitive.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 00:39, February 12, 2010 (UTC)
Nice, ya the bg image it self has transparency, but not the table its sitting on, ya 50% size reduction or more. The alignment of the icon and text still off (gawd it bugs me that I can't fix that). Looks hella nice tho :D  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 02:12, February 12, 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, I don't know how to go about that so I haven't even tried. : / , if you like I can at least upload the images and you can see if you can, I don't know how to do what you ask.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 23:12, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

Intrigued Edit

Project Boo is mighty mysterious. It's cruel to leave such an ambiguous message and go on holiday you know Tonguesmiley. Friendship smallLoleil Talk 00:51, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Template:ShieldProgressionRow Edit

Bucklers, appears to be broken and since it is your template, I don't want to mess with it trying to fix it.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 08:47, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Ostagar/Return to Ostagar Edit

Ref: Forum:Locations: Icons, infoboxes and stuff, I'll delete the direct example test page (concept: Changing Return to Ostagar (Quest) to Ostagar/Return to Ostagar, for the working around 'Location States'and 'Sub Location') after a decision has been made or a concept chosen to be in effect. So far it is only me and Loleil's concepts and not much more input. I thought all the admins would have put their input and a concept chosen by now, since it a fairly large change, at especially if Loleil's concept get chosen, mine I think is less dramatic. If you like this to move along faster, your input (and prolly Zoev's) would probably impact that.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 23:09, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Expandable Tables Edit

What do you think about getting this?

Polexian ♦♦Talk♦♦ ♠♠Leave Message♠♠ 18:48, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Suggestions. Edit

Any suggestions I have made about using Hollowness's templates on this wiki, please disregard. He does not want me to make suggestions that I think can improve this wiki. And as I told him I will not be making any more suggestions that originated from him. Polexian ♦♦Talk♦♦ ♠♠Leave Message♠♠ 04:34, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Excuse me, for one I am a she, two I said don't volunteer and/or Change other peoples templates! I just came here to ask. Tierrie, that I have made an easier to use template for {{ColorPositvieStat}} and {{ColorNegativeStat}} with {{+}} and {{-}}. And if it was cool I can do all the template replacing (yes over 1000 template replacements but I'll do the leg work).
Note: [Edit:disregard the template change, these templates, though I had straight uses for them before, after this ordeal I a putting them on the back burner and I'll present them on a later date. They are still causing issues and I don't want issues anymore, so I am waiting till this all blows over.]
Polexian, you have changed multiple of my templates without permission( Which you changed without knowing the true purpose of the templates and basically asking th same thing which was mine to ask.), made plans for my templates without my permission and now bashing me to the admins. All I said to you was please don't volunteer changes of other peoples templates with out asking what they are doing with them and to hold off on admin approval before you start making changes to templates that are or going to be widely used on the wiki, I don't think that warrents for this insult. I am so upset I can believe you went over my head and now behind my back. All I ever have done for this wiki was to improve it and now you make me feel like shit because I asked many times to please respect other users and wait on admins for certain template changes. I am really really upset, I don't think I deserved this.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 22:46, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
Oh you must have miss my additional edit:
Note: [Edit:disregard the template change, these templates, though I had straight uses for them before, after this ordeal I a putting them on the back burner and I'll present them on a later date. They are still causing issues and I don't want issues anymore, so I am waiting till this all blows over.]
Ya, I am holding off, and yes that is right neutral isn't accounted for. And OMG THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK DON'T LEAVE ME EVER AGAIN!!.... eeerr, I mean welcome back, I didn't miss you or anything, I mean I noticed you were gone. Tonguesmiley *hug*  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 22:41, February 16, 2010 (UTC)
Well, hopefully resolved, I know I felt soo bad asking for Loleil to help, I held off for days on it then folded, she is so nice. Glad you had a nice Vday weekend, mine I guess is on hold with the Olympics and family staying with me cause they are volunteering the bf hasn't been around (but I got the mushy mush texts and messages Tonguesmiley) and I am making him make up for it when the Olympics and family are gone, lol.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 22:58, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

Logging in/out Edit

I cannot help but notice that this wiki constantly kicks me out after I'm afk for a while, is this suppose to happen? I would normally go afk while on [My Home] page, and the next time I come back and Refresh the page, I'm logged out. =/

Fycan [fahy-kan] @ 12:19, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

Ostagar/Return to Ostagar Edit

Loleil basically gave me the ok, I feel it is a sub page to Ostagar, maybe express your concerns on the forums so we can all look at it cause I am in the process of redoing the location articles according to those guidelines of Loleil's and mine and it seemed to be approved. Condensing and child pages is what the intention was so maybe we should discuss more on the forums Forum:Locations: Icons, infoboxes and stuff#Update, cause I haven't gotten to the rest of the sub-locations/states and merges yet, you might want to get your p's and q's in.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 22:49, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Browser Usage Edit

There isn't a wiki page to find that info, but thankfully I have access to it on the back end. Here's the browser breakdown specific to DA Wiki:

  • Firefox - 50.45%
  • IE - 25.43%
  • Chrome - 10.95%
  • Safari - 8.26%
  • Opera - 4.0%

JoePlay@fandom (talk) 18:41, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism Edit

Special:Contributions/ Polexian ♦♦Talk♦♦ ♠♠Leave Message♠♠ 17:01, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

I'm back Edit

I just thought I owed you an apology for not having been around much in the last week, so ... sorry! I'm back now and will try to check in at least daily. I've a fair bit of catching up to do, though, and will slowly slog through it over the next few days once I've completed documentation of Project Genitivi. But if you think there's anything urgent I should be looking at, then please do give me a shout. Zoev talk 14:24, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

ItemInfoBox Edit

Tierrie, your infobox change caused all items to have Tiers so Plot Items and Gifts (or any item on the item trasnformer) now have tiers : / I don't want to mess the infobox to fix it, unless you want me to.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 01:47, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and items that have materials listed as Varies are broken too. [[Materials|(Varies Tier 1-7) (Tier )]], ie Splintmail.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 03:38, February 19, 2010 (UTC)
Nice looks like ya got it, :D much better.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 04:49, February 19, 2010 (UTC)
Ah, i c cool :)  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 05:06, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Custom font Edit

As you probably know, a font used on a website will only be displayed in a person's browser if the person has that font installed on their computer. Since a font is not one of the supported file types that can be uploaded to the wiki, assuming you have the font, you'll have to upload it off site. Then, in order for visitors to see the font where it's being used, they'll need to download it and install it. If/when you use the custom font for certain parts of the wiki, you'll want to specify a common default font as well, to ensure that people will still see the text if they don't have the custom font installed. Here's an example:

<div style="font-family: AdLib, Verdana">Custom font text.</div>

In this case, the browser would attempt to display the text using the AdLib font, but if it is not installed on the person's computer, the browser will attempt to display it using the next font listed, which is Verdana, a common default font. JoePlay@fandom (talk) 05:24, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

I knew about @font-face, but again, that requires uploading the font to the wiki, and fonts are not one of the uploadable file types. I don't have direct server level access, so I would recommend you use the Contact form to make your special request. Someone from the Community Team will respond, and they should be able to find out if this is doable. JoePlay@fandom (talk) 18:05, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Something you said before Edit

I didn't think I needed it at the time but now I have run into a situation I need it (it has to do with redirect pages where I usually do not have a problem with, this is the first, might be the only, not sure, might be needed for a couple more, I'd have to see when I get there).

Ico Hut Dalish Camp, I need it to be Brecilian Outskirts
Ico Hut Dalish Camp, This needs to stay as is (Dalish Camp).

{{:Brecilian Outskirts|style=iconmini|text=Brecilian Outskirts}} or {{:Brecilian Outskirts|style=iconmini|link=Dalish Camp}}

I just don't know how to do the adjustments without having to adjust everywhere I have used the template. It will be a less popular option but to have it is needed for at least a few articles, now that I have come to that bridge. Any help ya can give me will be most appreciated.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 07:01, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

OH!, and alternate icon too.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 07:01, February 19, 2010 (UTC)
Or will I need an alternate template that aren't based on the same principles of the current?  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 07:11, February 19, 2010 (UTC)
Cool, thanks no rush.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 08:44, February 19, 2010 (UTC)
I'd like to clean up a few things, I was wondering if this could be one of them. Lemme know, I'll try to adjust accordingly, I don't want to make you feel forced or rushed.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 20:55, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Browser Edit

Last year I discovered the delights of Firefox and have not looked back since and thank you! It's only taken me 11 months. Friendship smallLoleil Talk 08:50, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Can you unlock Edit

CharacterInfobox? or can you del the icon option, I have a default Icon for icon mini purposes (like I have for quests atm), if later on an icon for each character is introduced it will be very easy to change back, instead of my inputting each default icon on the characters articles now. Lemme know.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 07:11, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Bump :P  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 00:16, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Approval Edit

I admit with all the template talk going on I've found that discussion a bit difficult to follow, but here's my initial thoughts. Firstly, it looks like the positive approval numbers are in bold while the negative numbers are not, which looks a little odd to me. Another issue that I think is occurring with the mini portraits is that when they are all lined up like that I think all the different angles, lighting, and different levels of close-up make it look a little messy.

I'm also a little confused about all the different styles that are going on (tables with portraits, in-line with hearts, dot points with both). Are we going to pick one style or use different styles for different pages? Okay, opinion given! Your proposed changes to the sidebar sound good too. Friendship smallLoleil Talk 08:29, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Edit

Hey, thanks for the welcoming. I just figured that I'd write a little bit out about the whole exploit as it took me two playthroughs to realize there was an easier way, heh. I'll be sure to add more if I find anything else of use.

Looking better Edit

Since my slip of the personal life on the forums a while ago and that you seemed a little concerned. Things are looking better and at least for the time being I am ok.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 13:37, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

continued to Loleil's Talk Edit

I was only upset that she felt she couldn't take an opinion, if I cause her grievance I am very sorry I never meant that (and I think you are over dramatizing that whole situation too). Your reaction here is only making this worse, I feel less valued ever before, how can you break down every detail on my faults (and you do it occasionally) and not once say anything to him. I left Loleil and comment discuss it with her. If you both agree, then I should leave because you make me sound like a monster and therefor I should have no place here. I really hope you take back what you said here because now, I feel you have a label on me and I don't think I stay here with you thinking these things about me true. But if you cannot even say something to him for moving my templates after a heated conversation related to as such, I respected you highly because you always seemed not take sides (we disagreed lots but I still liked you listened) but I am dissolutioned now. Anyways this is on Loleil's and your hands.  Hollowness | Talk | Contr 21:11, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

well if you believe that then I cannot stay, that message really pushed me over

Morrigan extra lines Edit


I'm almost finish again with the game and I'm in redcliffe ready to march to denerim, I went upstairs and instead of going to alastair and riordan right away I went to my room where morrigan is waiting for me for the ritual, it is possible to talk with her and approval points are involved. The dialogue is activated when you choose to ask her some questions and I think it could give more theories for the future, she replies "so full of questions aren't you?" there is an option: "now that flemeth is dead..." and several options appear. I thought you might want to give it a check because I'm kinda new here and I don't know how to edit in here. Hope you or anyone here at that stage of the game can check it out and edit it in Morrigan's dialogue.


History Deletion Request Edit

Hey Tierrie,

A history deletion is needed here:

Jmjimmy 06:21, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

CSS definitions in Monaco.css Edit

Hey there. I've noticed you've put the CSS definitions for the spoiler tags and infoboxes in MediaWiki:Monaco.css - just wanted to let you know that the CSS there only applies for people using the site's custom skin, i.e. for people people using one of the standard Monaco skins or Monobook the CSS does not apply, leaving the spoilers and infoboxes unformatted. Just thought you'd maybe like to fix that :) -- Porter21 (talk) 12:28, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

comparisons in history Edit

Hey Tierre,

There is something wrong with the comparisons when you look at a pages edit history. The background and font colors are messed up. Dunno if it just me but I have to highlight the text to read it. 19:44, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

All looks well at my end, but it sounds like the poster above me is having the same problem you described. Mysterious. Friendship smallLoleil Talk 23:31, March 3, 2010 (UTC)
I'm both scared and amazed. Friendship smallLoleil Talk 00:03, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

RE: New CSS Edit

I don't know where to find diff.css. I'm pretty sure that's on the server level, but I saw that you added !important to the diff items on Monaco.css. I just checked a random page's history and I'm seeing the colors specified in Monaco.css, which should be the case for everyone. Using !important is supposed to override any other setting for that particular css item. Are you not seeing the correct colors (even after clearing browser cache using Ctrl+F5)? JoePlay@fandom (talk) 21:18, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Putting Caridin out of retirement Edit

With Awakening just around the corner, I was wondering if you get Caridin to add "Origins quests" to all our quest pages? Then our future proofing shall be complete with minimal work from me. Huzzah! If not I could always do it the old fashioned way. Friendship smallLoleil Talk 00:46, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not fussed either, as you've already done it as "Origins Quests" I'm happy to stick with that. I like your idea to strip out quests too, as once we get all the expansions and sequels, it's going to be too gargantuan to be of any use. Something to consider for categories like characters and locations too. Now thank you present time: Great artist that I am, I am always subject to my muse. So today, rather than bringing you one of Mr. Facypants friends, I bring you the horror of the Children. Behold... if you dare. Friendship smallLoleil Talk 06:23, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

This section contains spoilers for:
Dragon Age: Origins.


Uploading Video ScreenshotsEdit

Hi, I recently took a screenshot of The Disciples from a giantbomb video, and I'm wondering how that would work under licensing agreements. Would I be able to upload this no problem? Nosferatu13X 18:31, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

In this case, you can easily make out what the picture is of. Thanks for your help! Nosferatu13X 19:35, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Backpacks Edit

I would like to see a fix for the backpacks. I am stuck at 90 items and no one seems to have a backpack. I read the wiki on backpacks either there is a problem with my save or something is wrong with the dalish elf. I have visited the dalish camp and everything no backpacks where available and have not become available. No one has one. any of the other personas I play have been able to get backpacks. up to the 120 that is allowed. This is very annoying trying to get backpacks from merchants and none are available this happened after installing return to ostagard. I have all dazip files installed but the game is still trying to download the zip for shale. It is very strange as this has not happened before and I have uninstalled and installed the game. several times because of wierd behavior.

Et to Brutie 09:42, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Image Use Edit

How may I be allowed to use images from this site?

Help Edit

I need help making a new page for the Baroness.

I would like the formats and stuff because I have information on the Baroness or I can post her under pride a pride demon also I need to make a second in some cases a 3rd fade post.

help? Edit

i would like a little help i havent edited things on wiki before i changed the temporary compainons for awakening for a couple of reasons one there are some that should be noted and two Mhairi is not a full on companion she is temporary and seeing how i do not know how to edit things properly would you kindly take away her page from the companion page and fix my edit properly if you could?

Re: Puzzled Edit

I think what you're looking for is MediaWiki:Createplate-list. I would rub it in, but sadly Zoev had to tell me, so I've missed my chance to act all superior. Next time! Friendship smallLoleil Talk 00:15, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Edits gone awry Edit

I've edited Wikipedia before, so I didn't think I'd have a problem just making a Forum post here, but last night I tried to respond to a response to a thread I started and two things happened:

--Half-way through my response, the editor went psycho and screwed-up the whole thread. I rebuilt it as best I could, but every time I used Preview it double-spaced everything, removed numbers from numbered paragraphs, wouldn't obey indents, etc.

--The thread seems to have vanished from the forums.

The thread still exists via direct URL here:

PS3 Glitches

[crosses fingers this message even works…] I'm wondering if the editor is Javascript/Java based and Mac-unfriendly? Tried Safari and Firefox both…

CalvinFold 14:59, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

thanks! Edit

Thanks for the welcome. I'm not very good at this especially when pages contain different multiple types of code and templates. E.g. I wanted to add the locations of all the rune tracings on the Weapon Runes and Armor Runes pages but that involves editing the templates already in place and I don't want to screw anything up.

Arigato! Edit

Thank you for the welcoming! You're so kind. I'll try to do my best. (And sorry for the bad english, 'cause I'm spanish and sometimes I have trouble with the language x_X) Zendrana Von Stranbard 23:21, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Fail Edit

Outrage! How dare BioWare hoard their toolsety information, but our army of editors seem to be filling in the gaps nicely, and with a whole less vandalism than when Origins was released. Yay! Friendship smallLoleil Talk 04:41, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Companions page problems Edit

i just looked at the companions page and it looks like someone has been messing around with it it looks all messed up can you fix it ?

The Shimmering Shield has "Mana Regeneration Penalty (exploration and combat): 10.0." I sow before that some item give +11 mana(stamina), so the effect of Mana Regeneration Penalty will be 0 :)

If sombody know that item, can he tell me, because i lost my mind :( and forgeded the name, pls ! I try to search, but nothing...
I am sure about this, because I sow someone explaine, but I don't remember who :( !


I am not able to turn in 2 of the Awekwning side quests even though i had them
complete, 1 of them is the Wade's "A Master's Work" the other is "What is Built Endures".

A Master's Work - I Killed the Old One and looted Heartwood but when I returned to the Keep i found impossible to speak to Master Wade so I spoke to Herren but there were no dialog options about crafting something with the special material (Heartwood).

What is Built Endures - In the Wending Wood I found the Granite Deposit but when I came Back to Vigil's Keep it was impossible to speak with Voldrik Glavonak to end the quest

Can you help me?

It's a shame that a beautiful game like Awakening have so many BUG!!!!

Awakening BUG Edit

I am not able to turn in 2 of the Awekwning side quests even though i had them
complete, 1 of them is the Wade's "A Master's Work" the other is "What is Built Endures".

A Master's Work - I Killed the Old One and looted Heartwood but when I returned to the Keep i found impossible to speak to Master Wade so I spoke to Herren but there were no dialog options about crafting something with the special material (Heartwood).

What is Built Endures - In the Wending Wood I found the Granite Deposit but when I came Back to Vigil's Keep it was impossible to speak with Voldrik Glavonak to end the quest

It's a shame that a beautiful game like Awakening have so many BUG!!!!

New to Wiki's Edit

Thanks for your message (one that appears when you join). I was wondering about the colored numbers that appear by the entries on my Watchlist. What do they mean?

Suggestion Edit

Would it be possible to edit the Template:ItemTooltip so that if "icon=" is "icon=" (in otherwords icon = empty) that it defaults to show Icon needed (Icon_needed.png)? KigenAngelo 23:59, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

I left this suggestion for Loleil too. I'd like to suggest a new Create Page Template for Runes and Tracings that follows the one I'm using in Grandmaster Hale Rune and Grandmaster Hale Rune Tracing. KigenAngelo 06:32, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

InventoryIcon Edit

I just want to bring your attention to this to see if there is a quick fix that can be made. Max21 (talk | contr) 07:04, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

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