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Need Help With a Project[]

Hi! HD3 referred me to you. So I'm looking for Tierrie because I need his help with a project that my wiki is working on. Do you happen to know any way I could get in contact him? Since this could involve personal info we could discuss it on chat or on my test wiki Roranoa Drake II (talk) 12:05, July 6, 2016 (UTC)

Hi there! I've let Tierrie know about your request and he will be looking for a message from you on his talk page. Smiley.gif. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 00:05, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

Alright! Thanks so much for your help! :D Roranoa Drake II (talk) 12:42, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

Good luck! Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 22:02, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

Hello Loleil,

I'm working on a video & I'd like to use an image I found here on the wiki. I'd like to ask the creators permission if possible. The image is the glass images of the elven pantheon. If possible could you provide their link or somewhere I could contact them?

Thank you, --DRobin13 (talk) 00:38, February 13, 2018 (UTC)D.Robin


Hi Loleil, sorry to bother you again. It's been almost a week and still no word from Tierrie. Did he tell you a specific time frame as to when he will be back to check messages? ^___^" Roranoa Drake II (talk) 20:45, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

Apologies for the late reply, I was travelling and didn't have reliable internet access. I will send Tierrie a reminder. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 22:09, July 19, 2016 (UTC)
Oh that's alright. I was traveling as well for the past week and had no internet. I appreciate you for sending him a reminder. It has been more than 2 months since I first messaged him, so I hope he replies soon. Would you by any chance be proficient in coding yourself? :D {{SUBST:User:Roranoa_Drake_II/sig2}} 21:29, July 23, 2016 (UTC)
I know a little coding, but sadly not so much as Tierrie Icon wink.gif. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 00:18, July 24, 2016 (UTC)
Aha that's fine. He will turn up one of these days I hope XD How come he has been so inactive lately? {{SUBST:User:Roranoa_Drake_II/sig2}} 17:20, July 24, 2016 (UTC)
Sadly I think it's just a matter of not having enough free time. Poor Tierrie Icon wink.gif Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 22:17, July 24, 2016 (UTC)


Greetings! So I recently made it to the end of the Champions of Just quest in Dragom Age: Inquisition, but somehow my companions have disappeared. Any ideas on how to get them back?

BlueMoon865 (talk) 08:05, August 19, 2016 (UTC)

Hi! Unfortunately I'm not familiar with this issue, but I would always start with a reload. Good luck! Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 17:36, August 19, 2016 (UTC)

Social network templates[]

Hey, Loleil! What do you think about making templates for twitter and tumblr, similar to the BWF template? Most of the dev answers we've been getting over the last several months have been from twitter so I was thinking it might be handy to have templates since they're starting to be used fairly often as references. I can make the templates. --Kelcat Talk 07:23, September 13, 2016 (UTC)

I think that's a great idea! Let me know if there's anything I can do to help Smiley.gif. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 18:32, September 13, 2016 (UTC)
Okay, I made a template for twitter and I've got a couple questions. I added it to Alistair (ref. 9) and to the left of the link is an open bracket. Can you look at the template and see if I missed or added something? (too many brackets to keep track of lol). Also, when I added the template the little birdie image showed up in the recent activity under that change I made. Pretty sure there's a way to fix that so the icon doesn't show up in the activity every time it's added, or is that usual? Thanks! --Kelcat Talk 09:26, September 14, 2016 (UTC)
Looking great, there was indeed just a stray bracket in there. For the picture, I can't recall any way not to get the pictures to appear, but I will let you know if I can think of a solution. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 17:07, September 14, 2016 (UTC)
Thank you much! --Kelcat Talk 21:01, September 15, 2016 (UTC)


Hi Loleil,

I hope I am doing this right. I wanted to ask you if I can use your pictures that are related to the Knight Enchanters class to post for my weareknight-enchanter blog. You will be credited of course. Please reply whenever you can and sorry for bothering you.

--TheMagitekWarrior (talk) 01:48, September 22, 2016 (UTC)

Hi! All our images fall under fair use, so please feel free to use them. Smiley.gif Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 16:22, September 24, 2016 (UTC)

Edit difs showing up weird[]

Hey, Loleil! Any idea why the edit difs are showing up now as black text on a black background? It started a week or two ago, and as near as I can tell, no pages have been edited that might have changed it (like the CSS page). --Kelcat Talk 21:22, December 6, 2016 (UTC)

Infobox images[]

Hey, loleil! Any idea why the infobox images are suddenly showing up weird? Soother's Sapphire looked fine when I created it last night, but now the image is cut off. Forge Master's Hammer is another example--if you click on the image itself you can see how it should look. I can't see any edits on the wiki that might have changed it. --Kelcat Talk 23:47, January 17, 2017 (UTC)

Infobox images were affected by a bug. It's been fixed, but due to cache things aren't showing up correctly right away. If you add ?action=purge at the end of any url, that clears the issue. Raylan13 (talk) 16:17, January 18, 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the info Raylan. Glad to hear that everything will be back to normal soon. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 18:58, January 18, 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, Raylan, I appreciate the heads up! --Kelcat Talk 03:32, January 19, 2017 (UTC)
No problem - glad I had something to pass along :) Raylan13 (talk) 16:12, January 19, 2017 (UTC)

Bot Request[]

Hey Loleil! How you doing? I was wondering if we could use your bot for a cleanup mission, essentialy all links here need to redirected to Approval (Origins) since the main page has been converted into a disambig. Cheers! Na via lerno victoria 15:38, June 12, 2017 (UTC)

Hi Viktoria, it's good to hear from you! I'm doing well and I hope you are too. I'll get lol-bot on that right now. Smiley.gif Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 15:50, June 14, 2017 (UTC)

Since you did such a great job last time, I got more work for your bot if you don't mind! A page was renamed and hundreds of links have turned into redirects. Can you take care of it? Thanks! Na via lerno victoria 20:32, September 16, 2017 (UTC)

Done. Smiley.gif Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 17:53, September 19, 2017 (UTC)

Discussion board[]

So this is a thing that exists now that wikia never officially announced to us, which is par for the course with wikia. I'm assuming it's our responsibility to maintain civility and stuff on it, too since it's part of the wiki. Thankfully there's a "report" function for users to report spam and wank so I'll check in on that every once in awhile. I went ahead and introduced us since it doesn't look like the people chatting there contribute to the main wiki so they probably don't know who we are. Cheers! --Kelcat Talk 23:08, June 17, 2017 (UTC)

Huh, well I'm glad you found it Kelcat! I will try to keep an eye on it too. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 17:15, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

Template: Disambig[]

Hi! Is the positioning of the {{Disambig}} template part of some guideline or simply personal taste? (If the latter, I personally prefer it on top of the page, rather than its bottom, but I'd bow to your experience and position here. Icon wink.gif ) -- UserCCCSig.png -- You talkin' to me? -- cCContributions -- 11:36, September 3, 2017 (UTC)

Hi, the positioning is based off the site style. All of the pages in Category:Disambiguations have the template placed at the bottom. I'll add a note to the Manual of Style to clarify this. Smiley.gif Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 19:45, September 4, 2017 (UTC)

DAO Ultimate Fixpack[]

Hey Loleil, I hope you're doing great! There is this great mod created by Qwinn, a long-time Dragon Age modder and wiki member. I helped him a bit with proofreading during the alpha stage and now that the final version is out I threw the idea of making the mod visible to more users by posting it on the wiki. I mean, which PC user wouldn't want to install a mod which literally restores dozens of conversations, correct epilogue flags and hundreds of other stuff.

Linking bugs with mods which provide the respective fixes has happened frequently in the past however this time it is going to be in a very large scale. For that purpose I am going to write a very easy template so that it can be copied & pasted more easily on the relevant pages.

So to summarize, before we go on with the idea I want to hear your thoughts first. Many thanks! Na via lerno victoria 20:15, September 4, 2017 (UTC)

Hi! I am doing pretty great and I hope you are too. Since this looks like a pretty well established mod with a good amount of reviews, I have no problems adding links to it. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 17:54, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
Many thanks! I've created the small template, Qwinn will make the additions on the articles. You should check it out too by the way Icon wink.gif Na via lerno victoria 09:20, September 6, 2017 (UTC)
Hehe, I must be about due for a replay. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 20:14, September 7, 2017 (UTC)
Hi Loleil! Qwinn here. First, thanks so much for allowing me to clean up the Bugs listings on various pages and link to my Fixpack that can take care of them. It's really appreciated. Let me know if I can talk about this "partnership" publicly, btw, and if so I can add links to the wiki on my own site, and thus increase traffic in both directions.
Okay, Viktoria asked me to explain to you what I consider a "Restoration" versus a bug fix. I've written a wall of text explaining that in hopes of alleviating any concerns you might have, but I suspect you'd rather I not overwhelm your talk page with it. If you don't mind walls of text, just say so here and I'll post it, but if you do, just shoot me an email at qwinnmods@gmail.com and I'll reply there. Hope to hear from you soon! Qwinn (talk) 22:34, September 8, 2017 (UTC)
Hello again. I've been made aware that these discussions should be kept out in the open, so never mind the email thing. Ok, so, I talked some more with Viktoria and now realize that apparently referencing "cut content" is in violation of some wiki rule I was unaware of. I actually don't think anything I restore qualifies as "cut content", if there's any evidence that something was cut deliberately I don't restore it at all, and if you would like an explanation for what my criteria for that is, just ask and I'll post it here, though be warned the answer is REALLY long. However, if it will save heartache, I don't mind omitting references to such content, as it's a tiny fraction of the overall mod. I'd *like* to put them in as I think after 7 years most people only want to play if they can see something new (especially when it's *all* content by Bioware, my creative input is strictly limited to whatever is absolutely required to get their inaccessible content to actually work), but if it's a dealbreaker, I'll just leave those out.
One thing I do still think merits more attention though. I did note that the templates were changed sometime today from "installing Qwinn's Fixpack mod" to "installing this mod". Hey, from my personal desire to have more page views, I certainly don't *want* to object to that, people will have to click "this mod" every time to figure out if it's a reference to my mod! But, my personal interest aside, it seems more user friendly to actually identify my mod in the template so people who have already installed my fixpack don't have to keep clicking on the "this mod" link on page after page just to confirm that it isn't some *other* mod being discussed. Just my 2 cents. Qwinn (talk) 09:22, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

Hi Qwinn, firstly, thanks for taking what must have been a lot of time to make the bug fix mod. With regards to the line between cut content vs. restoration, you're right that it is a little hazy. This is why we prefer to err on the side of caution and not include them at this time.

As far as changing the wording, we don't ever want to serve as an advertising service, so we try to keep links to outside sources as neutral as possible and users can always hover over the link to see where they're going. Smiley.gif

You are certainly welcome to talk about the wiki on your webpage, but are under no obligations to do. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 20:53, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

Regarding your first paragraph, there is content that it is not available to players simply because of a wrongly placed flag preventing it from happening. This is the definition of a bug, we are not talking about ambiguous stuff which can be interpreted both ways and we want to "err on the side of caution".
As for the "advertising" thing, I have a small idea which can satisfy both sides. What if the wording of those templates is a bit more special/unique (it is totally generic now) thus giving the reader the idea that it refers to the same mod he has already visited, downloaded and installed? We are talking about hundreds of wiki pages which currently describe bugs that this fixpack is solving. Cheers! Na via lerno victoria 22:19, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
I hadn't realised that the project would involve adding links to hundreds of pages. Since this is going to be such a large project, I think it's appropriate to open up the discussion to a broader audience in the forums. Smiley.gif Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 21:22, September 12, 2017 (UTC)
Here's the link. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 21:34, September 12, 2017 (UTC)

Discussions activity feed[]

Hey, Loleil! In keeping with a lot of other wikis I've seen and used, I figured it'd be good to add a Discussions activity feed to the main page, as outlined here. I've played around with it some, but am not sure of the results. Our current layout on the main page has a whole lot of blank space to the right of the newsfeed and forum columns, so I added the feed to the right of it, single column, 3 most recent posts.

Can you a) give me your opinion on its location, including the number of posts showing? I tried adding it to the bottom but it just looked way oversized to me, and b) make sure I put the code in the correct location, and that it's not breaking anything. The code I added is <discussions columns="1" size="3" />, just below the existing line <mainpage-endcolumn /> Thanks! --Kelcat Talk 05:55, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Kelcat! I will see if I can set it up as a portal so it matches with the other components of the front page. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 20:53, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

Taking down Wikia's Fan Feed[]

Hey Loleil! You're not very active on skype, are you? Anyway I wanted to talk to you about wikia's fan feed. Those ugly block of images appearing below every wiki page?

Well, if you remember not too long ago instead of that "fan feed" the wikia used to show up related pages with the one you were reading, matched through categories. I think that was very important feature and it garnered many many extra page views, views which under different circumstances we wouldn't get. Instead we now have this fan feed which except it is horrid visually and unattractive, it links to some random blogs of ambiguous value in different fandoms. Personally I don't think most visitors of the Dragon Age wikia would be looking to read about Fantastic Four and not about Dragon Age.

I also know that most wikia features are optional and we have a certain amount of control on what we want to implement and what not. If this feature is optional don't you think it's in the wiki's best interests to take it down? Na via lerno victoria 11:02, October 14, 2017 (UTC)

And a bot request![]

This one Na via lerno victoria 12:05, October 14, 2017 (UTC)
This one wasn't my doing, blame Kelcat for that one Na via lerno victoria 09:17, October 15, 2017 (UTC)

This one too please. Na via lerno victoria 17:42, December 20, 2017 (UTC)

This one too please. Merry Christmas! Na via lerno victoria 12:35, December 24, 2017 (UTC)

This one too please. Happy New Year! Na via lerno victoria 06:52, January 5, 2018 (UTC)

Done, and Happy New Year to you too Smiley.gif. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 06:22, January 7, 2018 (UTC)


Hey, Loleil! I really need to talk with you about some stuff. Can you either reply here or shoot me an email? Thanks. --Kelcat Talk 23:06, December 13, 2017 (UTC)

Hi Kelcat,
I'm here! Feel free to email me too if you need to. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 04:41, December 17, 2017 (UTC)
Hey, sorry for the delay, haven't had a chance to be around in the last few weeks! I've decided to step down as admin. It's become more stressful and less fun in the past few months due to various things that have happened here (and I have an obsessive tendency to take on waaay too much and allow myself to get overly stressed out over things that ultimately don't really matter!) I'll probably be back around if another game comes out, but in the meantime I'm gonna take a long break. I'd appreciate if you could de-sysop me, and I wish you all the best--it's been great working with you all these years! Smiley.gif --Kelcat Talk 21:51, January 9, 2018 (UTC)
Oh, and thanks so much for your help with the scripts, I really appreciate it! Kelcat Talk 22:25, January 9, 2018 (UTC)

Revert and Locked every wiki because they don't fit your headcanon?[]

About Danarius and Fenris' relationship's headcanon

The "source" was from tumblr of two cosplayers' vague and second hand interpretation ("headcanon") which did not even involve any direct citation from david gaider, and being even more intentionally over-interpreted in the removed sentence. Dgaider never said anything even slightly related to that, even when explicitly asked on the internet. But, sure, it's just easier for someone to lie and try to shut people up when their headcanons and perverted imaginations are being removed.

Also, it seems quite sarcastic that the admin who protected the wiki term shows a significant personal favoring when alleging that they are doing so to stop the "War" while they themselves keeps reverting back the term to their "favored" version with the unverified headcanons first and then lock the item. LMAO. A bunch of perverted twisted minds gathering together to solidify their imaginations and abusing any pathetic "authority” does not make headcanons to be fact. This "incident" definitely tells a lot about the actual validation and credibility about the Dragon Age Wiki, ROFL.

Admin Loleil Abusing admin authority to fit her headcanon[]

http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Loleil This Admin is abusing her authority by locking wiki terms which stating fake info that did not come from david gaider at all. Ironically enough, this admin who was alleging to stop the "reverting of editing" has reverted the wiki to her "favored" version herself(which was nowhere to be found from David Gaider)first and then locked the wiki to prevent all users from stating the fact so that her headcanon can be preserved. This is so barefaced and shameless abusing of authority and sure says a lot about the actual validation and credibility about the Dragon Age Wiki. Am wondering they might as well do this to all the wiki terms as long as the world doesn't go their way.

RE: More Scripts![]

Hey Loleil. I wanted to let you know that the Trespasser script is locked so that you cannot suggest changes. You may want to contact FANDOM Staff about that to make sure you can properly review that.

Unfortunately due to my lack of full experience with DA:I (I have fully played every other game/DLC though) I was only able to work on Morrigan, Leliana, & Romance. I added a section to Romance, but it was otherwise accurate to my knowledge. I have gone through & doctored up Morrigan’s transcript a bit / fixed some inaccuracies, but only lightly touched Leliana because it’s mostly accurate (although it could use more info into Marjolaine I think, I can try to squeeze that in if you want). Either way, the pronunciations for Leliana are going to be butchered XD

Good luck with the scripts, & keep them coming if there are more Origins/DA2 scripts needing review!
UrsuulTalkAdminDate5:08 PM Sunday, January 7, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for all your help! I will see what I can find out about the Trespasser script. Perhaps they've already started filming that one? Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 17:10, January 7, 2018 (UTC)
You are welcome. Yes that may be the case, I hope you were able to review it yourself before you sent it to us if so.
UrsuulTalkAdminDate5:14 PM Sunday, January 7, 2018 (UTC)
I also had to request access for the first scripts I reviewed, so the Trespasser article might not be completely locked. It's probably just an oversight in granting access. I'll ask for permission and see what happens. --Evamitchelle (talk) 04:15, January 8, 2018 (UTC)
I can access the document now so I'll be able to take a look later today. --Evamitchelle (talk) 01:50, January 9, 2018 (UTC)

Page deletion[]

Hey, this page needs to be removed. Thanks! Na via lerno victoria 17:21, January 7, 2018 (UTC)

Done. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 02:49, January 11, 2018 (UTC)

Admin Nomination[]

Hello there! I've started an Admin Nomination and your input and vote would be greatly appreciated. You know how vital admins are for the smooth work of our wiki so this is definitely not a minor issue. Thank you! Na via lerno victoria 14:58, January 9, 2018 (UTC)

Replied. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 02:49, January 11, 2018 (UTC)

New Position[]

If the Admin team is getting a bit of a shake up, will we need to have a new beaurecrat admin? -Seekers of Truth heraldry.pngHD3 (Talk) 06:34, January 10, 2018 (UTC)

I don't think so at the moment, but we'll see what the team is looking like as we get nearer another release. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 02:49, January 11, 2018 (UTC)

Minor CSS Tweak[]

With Kelcat stepping down, would you be able to address User talk:Kelcat#Portable Infobox image fix?
UrsuulTalkAdminDate3:49 PM Wednesday, January 10, 2018 (UTC)

Done, and thanks. This was one of those things I'd been meaning to investigate for ages! Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 02:49, January 11, 2018 (UTC)

Fixing the Merchants category[]

Hey Loleil! I am contacting you again because of the invaluable bot that you have. I need it to do many re-categorizations (removing cat, adding cat) but I need to know first if your bot can have a filter while doing its automatic edits. The idea is that the bot will check first if a character page has this or this category and accordingly do the pre-specified action.

Oh and by the way, you might want to unlock this. Cheers! Na via lerno victoria 15:38, January 18, 2018 (UTC)

It will depend on the exact scenario you have in mind, but I can certainly pull together a list of all Dragon Age: Origins characters and perform an action on all the members in that group. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 18:24, January 20, 2018 (UTC)
Okay so the idea is to empty out Category:Merchants and instead move each page in there in their respective sub-game Merchants category. I didn't start this but since folks created Category:Dragon Age: Inquisition merchants, I just follow through and naturally expand it for every game not just Inquisition.
  1. The bot will scan through each page into Category:Merchants and check if Category:Dragon Age: Origins characters exists in their category lists and if it does, it will remove the 'Merchants' category and instead add Category:Dragon Age: Origins merchants.
  2. The bot will scan through each page into Category:Merchants and check if Category:Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening characters exists in their category lists and if it does, it will remove the 'Merchants' category and instead add Category:Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening merchants.
  3. The bot will scan through each page into Category:Merchants and check if Category:Dragon Age II characters exists in their category lists and if it does, it will remove the 'Merchants' category and instead add Category:Dragon Age II merchants.
  4. The bot will scan through each page into Category:Merchants and check if Category:Dragon Age: Inquisition merchants exists in their category lists and if it does, it will remove the 'Merchants' parent category.
  5. Also I'd advise deleting Category:Jaws of Hakkon merchants as that's overcategorization and I believe it's better to keep it only for main installments.
  6. As far as I know there is no character appearing in two installments without acting as merchant in both, so there is no need to fix pages after this automatic bot action.
What do you think? Can we do this? Smiley.gif Na via lerno victoria 06:07, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
Can you please rename Template:Stores (Dragon Age II) into 'Template:Merchants (Dragon Age II)' to be consistent with the template naming convention? Thanks! Na via lerno victoria 06:49, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
I can set up the bot to do this. I will try to get started tonight. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 01:04, January 22, 2018 (UTC)
Awesome work! I hope it didn't take you long. I also made a few manual fixes here and there, including this rename. Thank you again! Na via lerno victoria 10:33, January 22, 2018 (UTC)

Featured Videos[]

Are you receiving any more scripts for review? Forum:Wikia's Video Program--info and call for volunteers is active again & I wonder if FANDOM is totally done or if they are making more videos. Also, could you please review Forum:Phasing out the Wiki Forums? Thanks!
UrsuulTalkAdminDate11:34 AM Friday, February 2, 2018 (UTC)

No further word on the videos I'm afraid, but I will check out the forum topic. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 04:43, February 4, 2018 (UTC)

Lol-bot requested![]

Hey Loleil! How are you doing? I got another automatic edit spree request for your bot. Many thanks! Na via lerno victoria 09:23, February 6, 2018 (UTC)

I'll take a look! Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 02:19, February 13, 2018 (UTC)


Hello, I'm looking for the artist who made the stained glass portraits of the elven pantheon. could you provide me with their link so I may contact them for permission? --DRobin13 (talk) 00:25, February 13, 2018 (UTC)D.Robin

Sorry, beyond knowing that they came from Inquisition, I don'y know any further details. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 02:19, February 13, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! I just want to ensure I get the artist permission or at least cite them for the credit. I'll keep looking! --DRobin13 (talk) 03:24, February 13, 2018 (UTC)D.Robin13

RE: Discussion Scripts[]

Excellent, glad to help!
UrsuulTalkAdminDate8:16 PM Saturday, February 17, 2018 (UTC)

Discord being promoted in Discussions[]

Hey-O, I wanted to bring http://dragonage.wikia.com/d/p/3100000000000000406 to your attention. They’re advertising a Discord on this Wiki, & I’m not sure if the administration might take umbrage at such a thing / only want a Discord that they own to be promoted, so I don’t know whether to let the post be or to delete it. If it’s fine then no big deal, but I wanted to make sure you knew about it in case you wanted to take any action.
UrsuulTalkAdminDate12:11 PM Saturday, March 10, 2018 (UTC)

Hi, as long as it's just one post I don't have a problem with it. Thanks for checking Smiley.gif Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 02:26, March 19, 2018 (UTC)

"Champions of the Just" quest script[]

Hi Loleil,

I'm the community manager for gaming and wanted to send over a script we've updated for the "Champions of the Just" quest. What would be the best way for me to get this to you so the community can take a look at it and make edits? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jadarina (talkcontribs) 01:49, March 16, 2018 (UTC)

Hi, User:Ursuul and User:Evamitchelle are our script reviewers. If you could provide them with a link tto the scripts, that would be great! Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 02:26, March 19, 2018 (UTC)

Rollback rights[]

Hey Loleil! I'd like to recommend DaBarkspawn for rollback rights. He is for many months actively patrolling the wiki and giving him an extra tool will certainly make his job a bit easier. Source. Thanks! Na via lerno victoria 18:48, March 24, 2018 (UTC)

Sure! I think that's a great idea. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 22:56, March 25, 2018 (UTC)

Character Infobox images[]

Hey there Loleil! Some users in Discussions were wondering if multiple images for characters could be used; one for each game they appear in, like for Cullen & Alistair who appear in multiple games. It’s possible to use a <gallery> tag in Portable Infoboxes to produce tabs for each image, like this, so I was wondering if you might join the conversation & consider implementing something like that if the community wants it. Thanks!
UrsuulTalkAdminDate9:20 PM Friday, April 6, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up on this discussion. I think it's a good idea and will say so in the thread. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 01:15, April 10, 2018 (UTC)
Hi Loleil, just as a heads-up, I have tested out the technology and found that we can use it out of the box, with just some minor additions to MediaWiki:Common.css. I have listed my findings here, but we need an admin support to move forward with this. --Koveras Alvane (talk) 16:42, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

New Discussions Moderator needed[]

Hey Loleil. We have a bit of a problem in that Discussions Moderators are becoming inactive, leaving me as the most active for the time being. Since I moderate not just here but on over half a dozen Wiki Discussions at a time, I feel that we need more local hands to help moderating. There is a user named Warden Nuggins who has been a very calming voice in Discussions & is very reasonable, who we’d like you to reach out to in order to offer them a role as a new moderator. Another moderator, AmoraEnchantress, agrees that he is a suitable candidate.

If you don’t have the time but would be ok with us handling it ourselves, then with your permission I could offer him the role myself & have FANDOM Staff give him rights should he accept. Thanks for your consideration.
UrsuulTalkAdminDate9:51 AM Thursday, July 5, 2018 (UTC)

Hello there Loleil
I agree with Ursuul that we need a new Moderator, and that should be Warden Nuggins. I fully support them as a moderator.
AmoraEnchantresss 10:40, July 5, 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for info guys. I have left a message for warden Nuggins. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 19:06, July 8, 2018 (UTC)
My apologies for the late reply, I simply did not notice the message you left me. I am honoured by the nomination and greatly appreciate the voices of confidence. I wouldn't have thought there to be a necessity for another moderator, but if there is, then I'll happily accept the nomination. That being said, I'm still a relatively new member. Feels like I'm jumping the line of succession, so to speak. Warden Nuggins (talk) 20:53, July 14, 2018 (UTC)
Any news? We had a situation escalate a bit today. I could step in, but I don't really want to do so without the proper authority. Warden Nuggins (talk) 18:38, July 19, 2018 (UTC)
I have dealt with the problem for now, but in the meantime Nuggins, you were offered a Moderator role & accepted it. You can act to diffuse the situation as Saxhleel12 did & as you’ve done as a regular user in the past. Loleil, I hope you’ll grant him the user rights to go with his role soon.
UrsuulTalkAdminDate9:24 PM Thursday, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

If you need mods, I could do it. I haven't really been to Discussions, but I don't see why I couldn't get more involved. I used to be quite productive in the forums, before they moved to Discussions. User signature henioo.png henioo (da talk page) 21:53, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

The community is pretty easy-going tbh. I hadn't even noticed that we needed a moderator until I was approached. Adding a second new moderator feels like an overreaction to the current vacancy. But you should totally get involved in Discussions. We'd be happy to have you. Warden Nuggins (talk) 22:39, July 19, 2018 (UTC)
Glad to see you've accepted the nomination Warden Nuggins. You now have moderator rights. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 02:55, July 21, 2018 (UTC)

Template help[]


As I was doing work on herb counts, I noticed that the iconmini style does something weird with the table sorting. Try sorting the Antivan Fire table by Upgrade to see what I mean. Do you know how to fix this? Thanks! DaBarkspawn (talk) 19:13, July 8, 2018 (UTC)

Sadly no, but I do know that iconmini has had a lot of quirks over the years. I will poke around a bit more to see if I can work out the problem. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 20:26, July 14, 2018 (UTC)

Homepage Menu[]

I am Brendan, from the Madagascar Wiki.

I am interested in the navigation menu system you used in your Wiki's mainpage. If you do not mind, may I please know how it is made, and may I please implement this system in my Wiki too?


All the best Selamat Maju Jaya, Brendan Boman - 10:52PM, 9th July, 2018 (MYT)

re: Front Page help[]

Alright, thank you very much. I'll take a look at the said page.

Selamat Maju Jaya, Brendan Boman - 1:17PM, 15th July, 2018 (MYT)

Who to contact about the portal slider[]


I'm sorry to bother you, but do you know who made the portal slider or who should I contact for further information on it? I'm a little bit confused at some points and so I wasn't sure what to do.

All the best,
Selamat Maju Jaya, Brendan Boman - 10:52PM, 9th July, 2018 (MYT)

Re: Front Page help[]

Alright, I'll try the community development team. Thanks a lot ^^

Selamat Maju Jaya, Brendan Boman - 10:52PM, 9th July, 2018 (MYT)

Wikia Domain Change[]

Well that's disappointing! I can't really see how fandom is more descriptive than wikia... Oh well, thanks for letting me know. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 03:41, August 23, 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, I feel the same way. :( DaBarkspawn (talk) 04:56, August 23, 2018 (UTC)
It is good to see you Loleil feeling strongly about this. I also replied to Barkspawn in my talk page expressing the opinion that we, as a wikia, cannot do anything about it. Na via lerno victoria 11:02, August 23, 2018 (UTC)
Well, there is one thing: leave. But I agree, other than that, there's not much we can do but put comments on that blog post. DaBarkspawn (talk) 14:46, August 23, 2018 (UTC)
Actually, though they’ll have certainly looked cursorily over those comments, the best method to get the attention of FANDOM Staff & express yourself to them is via Special:Contact/feedback. They always respond to S:Cs, & although you may not find their response satisfactory, they can’t act surprised when the change is brought up if they have a great deal of feedback.
UrsuulTalkAdminDate3:48 PM Thursday, August 23, 2018 (UTC)
Well, FWIW, there is a fairly long thread there between myself and Brandon Rhea of Wikia, so I must have gotten his attention somehow. DaBarkspawn (talk) 19:52, August 23, 2018 (UTC)
I found a petition. DaBarkspawn (talk) 20:53, August 23, 2018 (UTC)
As much as I dislike the change, no number of comments and petitions will change Wikia/Fandom's minds because, honestly, they never have. Remember how they made VisualEditor the default, switched off Monobook, etc.? They've always ignored us veteran editors in pursuit of more ad revenue, so this is just another move in that direction. As DaBarkspawn said, the only alternatives they have given us is either to live with their unilateral decisions, or to leave for another platform, which is quite a messed up relationship, if you think about it. --Koveras Alvane (talk) 04:55, August 24, 2018 (UTC)
Petitions primarily get no where with FANDOM also because FANDOM isn’t a democracy, it is a business & it exists to make profit. It incorporates feedback so that it can provide a more appealing service to the market, but it does not take demands.

The vast majority of forks (copies of a community that left FANDOM), unfortunately, fail horribly. This is due to the amount of SEO that FANDOM provides its Wikis, allowing them to enjoy much more traffic than they otherwise might. Dragon Age Wiki needs the influx of new users whenever a new game is released in order to get all of its pages made, & if those new users are being funneled here by SEO, then the fork cannot take advantage of those editors & would be doomed to fall behind. Even forks that do manage the manpower needed to provide up-to-date content typically still don’t get anywhere because the FANDOM-hosted Wiki sucks up all of the views due to FANDOM’s SEO & moreover, Google actually penalizes duplicate content (which a fork naturally starts out as) & suppresses it, crushing the fork even more. Finally, to top it all off, eventually a community would replace the one that left for the fork, resulting in no real change. FANDOM is thus rarely afraid of people forking, because typically it accomplishes nothing.

I dislike the FANDOM brand too, & I also want a better relationship between FANDOM & editors; I have been very vocal to FANDOM about both issues elsewhere, but this URL change is simply a formality. It is the conclusion of the rebrand that started years ago. *.wikia.com links will continue to work, & you can keep using them rather than share *.fandom.com links, but FANDOM appears dead-set on this & so there is little to do.
UrsuulTalkAdminDate1:37 PM Friday, August 24, 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, I sadly agree with the above. Wikia or "Fandom" has always been very strident when pushing through changes and even if the current community did leave, other editors would eventually join here and the site would continue. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 15:21, August 25, 2018 (UTC)

Permission to announce something[]

Hey Loleil, you should check out this Discussions post; it is about European Union legislation that, if passed, could directly affect how people edit both on FANDOM & on any “Wiki,” like Wikipedia. It requires that companies be held responsible for content posted to their platforms, meaning that FANDOM will have to review every edit (leading to many rejections, hindering what you can do to edit) & expand censorship in general to comply with local European laws.

I feel this is really important for this Wiki to know about, because it will affect both its editors & its community in Discussions; for this reason I would like to send a notification about it to every user who’s edited here / used Discussions here in the past 90 days, in order to reach more people so that they know how they can combat this legislation (via calling their MEPs). Would you be ok with me doing this? There’s more info about this legislation here.
UrsuulTalkAdminDate10:29 PM Thursday, September 6, 2018 (UTC)

Hi Ursuul,
Feel free to create a Discussions post, but I don't think we should use site wide announcements for political reasons. If the legislation does get passed we will of course inform everyone how changes might impact them. Thanks for asking. Smiley.gif. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 21:20, September 8, 2018 (UTC)
Of course, I respect your neutrality.
UrsuulTalkAdminDate1:24 AM Sunday, September 9, 2018 (UTC)
Update: Article 13 has passed with a large majority. However it has not yet been finalized how the EU will regulate speech on the internet. Na via lerno victoria 07:31, September 13, 2018 (UTC)

Spoiler template infrastructure change[]

I brought up an important proposal to HD3 because ListUsers showed you were inactive at the time, but I’ve not had a response so I thought to poke you so that you’d take a look. It’s about making sure our spoiler templates display properly on mobile devices; because my solution to a mobile-display bug uses methods that won’t last forever, & it ought to be resolved before it stops working. It requires an Admin to implement the change.
UrsuulTalkAdminDate5:31 AM Sunday, November 25, 2018 (UTC)

Done and thank you to you and the other Vanguards for the work coming up with a solution. Smiley.gif Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 06:19, November 25, 2018 (UTC)
You’re welcome :) Thanks for installing it.
UrsuulTalkAdminDate7:18 AM Sunday, November 25, 2018 (UTC)

On the recent Teaser[]

Do we make new articles for trailers and teasers or not? I don't think we have ever addressed this as policy. -Seekers of Truth heraldry.pngHD3 (Talk) 16:32, December 7, 2018 (UTC)

Historically, we've never made pages for trailers, and I don't think we should start now. We could end uo with a lot of insubstantial articles really quickly. I like Henio0's idea of starting a DA4 article and including it there. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 02:26, December 8, 2018 (UTC)

New spoiler tag[]

Also we need a new spoiler tag for Dragon Age Deception. Do you have any suggestion on users whom could make that for us? -Seekers of Truth heraldry.pngHD3 (Talk) 16:34, December 7, 2018 (UTC)

If you can give me a quote, I can make it. Smiley.gif Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 02:24, December 8, 2018 (UTC)

Courtesy to the Fanon Wiki[]

Hey Loleil. Me & Viktoria Landers have been talking regarding implementing spoiler templates on the Dragon Age Fanon Wiki. Although we have some communication problems, I think it might prove easier on them if they could simply import the Spoiler CSS that we use here like the way you can import SpoilersToggle.js (exmaple). If you were to move the Spoiler-related CSS out of Common.css to another CSS file here, such as SpoilersToggle.css for example, then the Dragon Age Fanon Wiki could import that file without having to maintain so much special CSS. Although, to ensure that the CSS keeps loading on this Wiki, you would have to add this code to the top of Common.css after you moved the CSS:

@import url("/load.php?mode=articles&only=styles&articles=MediaWiki:SpoilersToggle.css");

UrsuulTalkAdminDate1:56 PM Thursday, December 13, 2018 (UTC)

Hey, we ended up just directly copying (I attributed Tierrie who appears to have written most of the base CSS, & myself for the new CSS). You don’t have to worry about this anymore, but if you would still like to move the CSS into SpoilersToggle.css here, which we could still import, then I suggest copying this CSS into SpoilersToggle.css if & when you remove the CSS from Common.css, because that version has the proper escaping necessary to go through the import minifier without losing necessary spaces for quotes.
UrsuulTalkAdminDate6:04 PM Friday, December 14, 2018 (UTC)

New Spoiler Template[]

Hey, hope you’re having a great holiday! Viktoria Landers is making a new spoiler template which we need some new CSS for. If you’d like, you can follow the above instructions &, as part of that process, the CSS for the new quote template will be installed so that we can start using that template with the quote & image we chose.

Alternatively, if you don’t wish to bother with the above, you could just replace the CSS you added here with this updated CSS, which would set up the new template just fine Smiley.gif
UrsuulTalkAdminDate8:01 PM Sunday, December 30, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the holiday wishes! I have just got back and will look into this shortly. Smiley.gif Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 02:38, January 16, 2019 (UTC)
Great to hear! While you are at it, you may also want to check this out.
UrsuulTalkAdminDate6:44 PM Wednesday, January 16, 2019 (UTC)
Ah yeah. I was going to bring that up after sufficient time had passed, though with unanimously positive votes and the conversation running its course, I think it's safe to call the vote already Smiley.gif Na via lerno victoria 11:09, January 17, 2019 (UTC)
We also need a new spoiler tag for the latest comic.

-Seekers of Truth heraldry.pngHD3 (Talk) 20:44, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

If you can provide an image & quote, I can make it anytime you like.
UrsuulTalkAdminDate10:14 PM Sunday, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

RE: Congratulations![]

Thanks! I’ll start by taking care of that CSS stuff above, you needn't worry about it anymore.
UrsuulTalkAdminDate10:14 PM Sunday, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

Permission to restore GeSHI syntax highlighting[]

Hey Loleil, Fandom Staff have offered to restore regular syntax highlighting for the Dragon Age Wiki (for source editor, code editors, etc), since we have just a white edit area & no highlighting now. I didn’t agree to it immediately because it would affect every editor on the site, but it can be very useful for catching syntax errors of any kind & it generally makes editing easier. Would you mind if I gave Staff the go-ahead, & if you don’t mind, should I just go ahead with such technical changes in the future without bothering you? Or, do we need consensus for something like this?
UrsuulTalkAdminDate8:35 PM Monday, January 21, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for checking Ursuul. I trust your judgement and given I'm not active every day, I'm happy for you to go ahead with making any changes that you feel are necessary. Smiley.gif Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 16:50, February 2, 2019 (UTC)
FWIW, this editor would also like it restored. DaBarkspawn (talk) 17:10, February 2, 2019 (UTC)
Request has been sent to Staff, should happen after the weekend 👍🏻
UrsuulTalkAdminDate8:25 PM Saturday, February 2, 2019 (UTC)
Gotcha Loleil, I hopefully won’t have to bother you anymore then :)
UrsuulTalkAdminDate8:25 PM Saturday, February 2, 2019 (UTC)
If this is like the editor in the DA Fanon wiki then I hope we have the option to opt out of it. Personally I can't work effectively with that editor. Na via lerno victoria 22:09, February 2, 2019 (UTC)
No, it should be like any other Wiki’s syntax highlighting, such as the Elder Scrolls Wiki. If I’m wrong & turning GeSHI syntax highlighting back on makes this Wiki like DA Fanon, which I’m fairly certain is a result of some bad CSS they have over there, then I will do everything I can to fix that problem from a CSS-angle. In the unlikely event that I can’t fix it, then we’ll just go back to what we have now with no syntax highlighting at all. I think that is reasonable no?
UrsuulTalkAdminDate1:35 AM Sunday, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
Just checked the Elder Scrolls Wiki editor. Yeah that is workable. DA Fanon wiki has the same syntax highlighting but with the important difference that the background there is white thus making the letters indiscernible.
So, as long as we don't tough the background color I think we are good Smiley.gif Na via lerno victoria 03:03, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
Turns out Staff were on the ball & they already got it done, even on a weekend. It’s working as expected for you?
UrsuulTalkAdminDate3:30 AM Sunday, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
Yeah it works as intended. No problems here! Na via lerno victoria 09:41, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Request for Opinion on How to Handle PnP RPG Material[]

Hello Loleil, Ursuul advised me to contact you about this issue.

We recently received information that the Dragon Age RPG by Green Ronin is licensed by Bioware but should not be considered canon. We received this information from one of Green Ronin's reps and the email can be seen on the RPG Talk Page.

We were debating how to handle this issue as some of us would prefer to remove the material in its entirety and others would like to add special tags to indicate the non-canonicity of certain information.

Essentially, I feel this issue is important enough to warrant another Administrator weighing in as this affects a large number of articles. I'd greatly appreciate it if you took the time to share your opinion.

Thank You Sir Insomnius (talk) 17:49, November 20, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know about this Sir Insomnius. I will take and look and share my thoughts. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 21:50, November 23, 2019 (UTC)
I see that Ursuul has concluded the discussion, so I think all that's left to do is create the tag and choose the wording. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 00:46, November 25, 2019 (UTC)

New Bureaucrat[]

Hey Loleil! It's been so long! But--I hope you are still doing great!

I am sending you this message because I think we really need a new Bureaucrat for the wiki. Since I joined in late 2011 the wiki has had only one new Bureaucrat (Kelcat) who has since departed from our community. With Dragon Age 4 dawning in I believe that Ursuul is the right man for the job. He has been immensely useful for the wiki and the Discord server (Bots), fields that none of us had any expertize on. He has been an Administrator for more than a year now and despite having to deal with so many people on the server, he's the most amicable person I know; I don't know a single person that does not like Ursuul or has a problem with him. Finally he works for the Wikia too so he is as much trusted as one can get.

The choice couldn't have been easier, Loleil!
Cheers! Na via lerno victoria 11:18, August 28, 2020 (UTC)

Hi Viktoria! It's so nice to hear from you! I am doing well, though I'd be better if the recent reveal was more than just concept art :-P. I hope you are doing well too.
I think adding Ursuul as a bureaucrat is a great idea. I reached out to Tierrie and he's all for adding Ursuul too.
On another note, would you be interested in being an admin? Your commitment to the site as your (seemingly) countless quality contributions are just awesome. I'd be more than happy to nominate you if you'd like. Friendship small.pngLoleil Talk 03:09, August 31, 2020 (UTC)
+1 to both nominations, especially of Vik as an admin. With a new game in the wings, I think we need someone who is really paying attention to this wiki. DaBarkspawn (talk) 03:56, August 31, 2020 (UTC)
I don't think Vic wants to become an Admin, but if she ever decides to become one then she has my vote of confidence too 😃
UrsuulTalkAdminDate4:13 AM Monday, August 31, 2020 (UTC)

RE: Bureaucrat?[]

Sure thing, go for it. Smiley.gif Thanks to you & Tierrie & Viktoria for approving of me.
UrsuulTalkAdminDate3:17 AM Monday, August 31, 2020 (UTC)

Western approach needs mechanisms to open doors[]

I'm new to fandom, just a thought. I have tried through several games to get the mechanisms to open the doors to locked areas in the Western approach and can't figure it out. Would you give me a hint? This is for dragon age inquisition. Thank you dragonheart4

You may find the first note here of use. Completing that war table operation creates a bridge that leads to a new section. Follow the path upwards to Coracavus, clear that area and when you exit the other side, you will be on the other side of the gate and it opens from that side. DaBarkspawn (talk) 23:58, 22 July 2021 (UTC)