Changes: The Qunari Prisoner

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Just outside the north end of Lothering proper, a Qunari warrior named Sten has been imprisoned for killing a family. The Warden can convince him to seek atonement by joining the battle against the Blight, but must find a way to release him from the cage.

Walkthrough

Note: As soon you complete any of the main questlines, you will be unable to return to Lothering - so if you want Sten in the party, be sure to rescue him before said completion.

Speak with Sten in his cage. He is dismissive of most conversational options, but he may clarify that he would rather die in battle than in a cage. Regardless of how the conversation goes, most companions vocally disapprove of his situation and support releasing him.

You can open the cage in several ways:

If the Warden has Mechanical Expertise or at least 20 Cunning (or Leliana is in the party,) you can pick the cage's lock. (PC v1.05: a Cunning score of 11 is sufficient)
You can persuade the Revered Mother to release Sten into the Warden's custody. This is easier if you make a donation to the Chantry, gaining Leliana (+2). However, if Leliana is in the party, she alone convinces the Revered Mother to hand over the key.
You can intimidate the Revered Mother into handing over the key. Whether or not this succeeds, it amuses Morrigan (+4), but offends Alistair (-13), and severely disappoints Leliana ( (-15)).
- pcOn PC, Leliana does not lose any approval.
- macOn a MAC, Leliana grants +2 approval.

In older versions of the game, you may be able to steal the key from the Revered Mother. A patch has fixed this.

Bug! If The Warden gets the key by intimidation, Sten will be surprised that the Revered Mother agreed to part with the key. He suspects The Warden has stolen the key off her, and sometimes you can't deny it, even if you didn't steal it.

Return to Sten's cage and release him.

Result

Sten becomes available as a companion.

Reward

250 XP for opening the cage

Note: Even if the Warden decides not to recruit Sten, it is prudent to open the cage to gain experience points.

Exploits

This bug can only be exploited by a Warden with less than 35 Strength and no Coercion skill. Otherwise, the intimidation succeeds, the quest progresses, and the exploit ceases to be available. It's possible to gain maximum approval from Morrigan before freeing Sten. Every time you attempt to intimidate the Revered Mother, Morrigan expresses her appreciation for the entertainment. Simply choose the intimidation option, fail, end the dialogue, then start another. This yields (+4) each time. Repeat until maximum approval is reached.
Leave Alistair out of the party for this; he will not only disapprove, but also convince the Revered Mother to give you the key regardless, making the exploit unavailable.
(potentially, depending on game version) However you manage to get the key and open Sten's cage, there is a way to continually exploit the quest for the XP bonus. To start the exploit, choose the first few dialogue options, informing Sten you're a Grey Warden, and freeing him from the cage, he will say "And so it is done. I will follow you into battle," and the last five of the dialogue options will become available. When you choose the last of the 5 options, "I don't want your help; you are free to go," Sten will make some remark that although the cage is open it doesn't mean he will leave it. You will get 250 XP for completing the quest, but the quest will not actually be finished until you have him try to join your party, thus allowing you to do this as many times as you want.

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-By the exit of [[Lothering]], [[Sten]], a [[qunari]] [[warrior]], is imprisoned for killing a family. [[The Warden]] can convince him to seek atonement by aiding them in the battle against the [[darkspawn]]. The Warden needs to ask the [[Revered Mother]] in the Lothering [[chantry]] to release him.
+Just outside the north end of [[Lothering]] proper, a [[Qunari]] [[Warrior (Origins)|warrior]] named [[Sten]] has been imprisoned for killing a family. [[The Warden]] can convince him to seek atonement by joining the battle against the [[Fifth Blight|Blight]], but must find a way to release him from the cage.
 == Walkthrough ==
-{{Note|As soon you complete '''any''' of the main questlines (including the Urn of Sacred Ashes), you will be unable to return to Lothering. So ensure that if you want Sten in your party, you rescue him prior to doing these things.}}
+{{Note|As soon you complete '''any''' of the [[Main quests (Origins)|main questlines]], you will be unable to return to Lothering - so if you want Sten in the party, be sure to rescue him before said completion.}}
-Speak with Sten in his cage. He will be dismissive and suggest you leave him to die for his crimes. Regardless of how the conversation goes, your companions will strongly urge you free him his fate. To free Sten, the Warden needs the key to his cage or the pick the lock. The Warden can open the cage in a variety of ways:
+Speak with Sten in his cage. He is dismissive of most conversational options, but he may clarify that he would rather die in battle than in a cage. Regardless of how the conversation goes, most companions vocally disapprove of his situation and support releasing him.
+You can open the cage in several ways:
-*If the Warden or [[Leliana]] has the [[Improved Tools]] [[talent]], they can simply pick the lock on Sten's cage.
+* If the Warden has [[Mechanical Expertise]] or at least 20 [[Attributes (Origins)#Cunning|Cunning]] (or [[Leliana]] is in the party,) you can pick the cage's lock. (PC v1.05: a Cunning score of 11 is sufficient)
+* You can [[Coercion|persuade]] the [[Revered Mother]] to release Sten into the Warden's custody. This is easier if you make a donation to the Chantry, gaining Leliana {{Approval|2}}. However, if Leliana is in the party, she alone convinces the Revered Mother to hand over the [[Sten's Cage Key|key]].
+* You can intimidate the Revered Mother into handing over the key. Whether or not this succeeds, it amuses [[Morrigan]] {{Approval|4}}, but offends [[Alistair]] {{Approval|-13}}, and severely disappoints Leliana ({{Approval|-15}}).
+** {{Platforms|PC}}On PC, Leliana does not lose any approval.
+** {{Platforms|MAC}}On a MAC, Leliana grants +2 approval.
+* In older versions of the game, you may be able to [[Stealing|steal]] the key from the Revered Mother. A [[Patches (Origins)|patch]] has fixed this.
-*The Revered Mother can be [[persuade]]d to release Sten into the Warden's custody. This is easier depending on the amount of money the Warden donates to The Chantry; e.g. if you donate a 30 silver, you need 2 coercion points to persuade the Reverend Mother to give you the key. However, if Leliana is in the active party, she will consult Leliana and give her the key to Sten's cage even if the Warden does not provide her with the tithe she requests.
-*The Warden can [[intimidate]] the Revered Mother into providing the key, amusing [[Morrigan]] {{Approval||+4}} and shocking [[Alistair]] {{Approval||-13}}.
+{{Bug|DAO|If The Warden gets the key by intimidation, Sten will be surprised that the Revered Mother agreed to part with the key. He suspects The Warden has stolen the key off her, and sometimes you can't deny it, even if you didn't steal it.}}
+Return to Sten's cage and release him.
-*If the Warden has the [[Stealing]] [[skill]] they can pickpocket the Revered Mother for the key.
-*If [[Leliana]] is present and you give a donation her approval will rise-{{Approval||+2}} if you donate 30 silver and {{Approval||+4}} if you donate 5 sovereigns.
-Return to Sten's cage and release him. He then joins the party if you ask him.
 == Result ==
-Sten will join the Warden as a [[companion]].
+Sten becomes available as a [[Companions (Origins)|companion]].
+== Reward ==
+* 250 XP for opening the cage
+{{Note|Even if the Warden decides not to recruit Sten, it is prudent to open the cage to gain experience points.}}
 == Exploits ==
+* This bug can only be exploited by a Warden with '''less than 35 Strength''' and '''no Coercion skill'''. Otherwise, the intimidation succeeds, the quest progresses, and the exploit ceases to be available. It's possible to gain maximum approval from Morrigan before freeing Sten. Every time you attempt to intimidate the Revered Mother, Morrigan expresses her appreciation for the entertainment. Simply choose the intimidation option, ''fail'', end the dialogue, then start another. This yields {{Approval|4}} each time. Repeat until maximum approval is reached.
-It's possible to gain maximum approval for Morrigan when trying to convince The Revered Mother to release Sten. When first talking to The Revered Mother choose the most threatening options until Morrigan comments how fun it is to threaten a priest. Simply keep talking to The Revered Mother and keep threatening her and Morrigan will add +4 approval each time. Repeat until approval is maxed. Make sure Alistair is not in your party or you will ''lose'' his approval.
+* Leave Alistair out of the party for this; he will not only disapprove, but also convince the Revered Mother to give you the key regardless, making the exploit unavailable.
-{{DEFAULTSORT:Qunari Prisoner}}
+* (''potentially, depending on game version'') However you manage to get the key and open Sten's cage, there is a way to continually exploit the quest for the XP bonus.  To start the exploit, choose the first few dialogue options, informing Sten you're a Grey Warden, and freeing him from the cage, he will say "And so it is done. I will follow you into battle," and the last five of the dialogue options will become available.  When you choose the last of the 5 options, "I don't want your help; you are free to go," Sten will make some remark that although the cage is open it doesn't mean he will leave it. You will get 250 XP for completing the quest, but the quest will not actually be finished until you have him try to join your party, thus allowing you to do this as many times as you want.
-This is verified as not working in Ultimate Edition for the PS3.  You will only get the +4 approval one time.
+[[es:El prisionero qunari]]
-[[Category:Side Quests]]
-[[Category:Lothering Side Quests]]
+[[Category:Dragon Age: Origins side quests]]
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+[[Category:Lothering side quests]]
-[[Category:Origins Quests]]