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Whatever you do, Eamon is the priority here. If you have to, just get him out of there. Isolde, me, and anyone else... we're expendable. ―Bann Teagan

Arl of Redcliffe is one of the main quests in Dragon Age: Origins. After the introductory quests, Alistair recommends that the party journey to Redcliffe, his childhood home, in order to obtain the assistance of Arl Eamon Guerrein. However, when the party arrives, they find the town besieged by an undead army and the Arl gravely ill.

Walkthrough

Note: As you approach the village for the first time, if Alistair is in your party, he will initiate a conversation with further details regarding his background.

Redcliffe Village

Main article: Redcliffe Village

As you approach the village, you will meet Tomas, triggering a cut-scene in which you are introduced to Bann Teagan, Arl Eamon's brother. He is essentially leading the villagers as the Arl has fallen ill, and communications with the castle have been interrupted by the undead army that is storming the village every night.

If the Warden chooses to help the population of Redcliffe, the next steps involve preparing for the nightly attack (see A Village Under Siege quest), and eventually fighting off the undead (see The Attack at Nightfall quest).

After The Attack at Nightfall, Arlessa Isolde will join the Warden and Bann Teagan in a cut-scene providing some information on what is happening in the Castle.

Redcliffe Castle

Main article: Redcliffe Castle

The information Isolde shares is that the Castle has been invaded by an evil force released by an infiltrator, a mage that was (allegedly) paid by Loghain to poison the Arl. The mage was discovered and captured, but the evil in the castle is beyond control. Most people within the castle have been killed, but the Arl, the Arlessa, her son Connor (and the infiltrator Mage) are being kept alive for unknown reasons. The Arl is still sick, but Connor is also falling ill, and the Arlessa has convinced the evil force that she could find help in the village. She was then allowed to leave for a brief time, to try and bring Bann Teagan to the castle, alone.

Bann Teagan will decide to go with the Arlessa, trying to bring the attention of the evil force to himself, while giving the Warden his Signet Ring to open a secret passage from the Windmill to infiltrate through the Castle's basement.

Enter the Castle

Main article: Redcliffe Castle - Basement

The Warden enters the Castle though the lower level, and is met by a group of undead. More surprisingly, the Warden will find Jowan (a Blood Mage, and an old acquaintance if the Warden is a Mage) in one of the cells.

He confirms some of the information the Arlessa provided: he was sent to the Castle as a tutor for Connor, the Arl's son, who had started showing signs of magical abilities. The Arlessa was aware of her son's abilities but wanted to keep them a secret (the Arl himself was not aware of any of this) so that the Circle of the Magi would not claim Connor. Secretly, Jowan was also on a mission from Loghain to poison the Arl.

However, Jowan insist he had nothing to do with the subsequent demon and undead infestation, which begun after his secret mission was discovered and he had been imprisoned. He suggests that it is possible for Connor to be the involuntary reason behind this invasion, having caused some tear in the Veil and therefore allowing the demonic forces to enter the Castle.

The Warden has three alternative options at this point:

  • Kill Jowan:
    • This makes it impossible to save Connor without traveling to the Circle of Mages first
    • Ico DisAppr Heart Alistair disapproves (-5)
      • If Alistair has been hardened, then Ico Appr Heart Alistair approves (+2)
    • Ico DisAppr Heart Morrigan disapproves (-5)
    • Ico DisAppr Heart Leliana disapproves (-3)
    • Ico Appr Heart Sten approves (+3)
    • Oghren is indifferent
  • Free Jowan:
    • He will run off, and reappear later when you meet Isolde and Connor
    • Ico DisAppr Heart Alistair disapproves (-5) (but you may persuade him this is the right course of actions to avoid this penalty)
    • Ico DisAppr Heart Sten disapproves (-5)
    • Ico Appr Heart Morrigan approves (+7)
    • Wynne is indifferent.
    • Ico Appr Heart Leliana approves (+2) (only if the Warden tells Jowan to accompany the party, then to help without making things worse)
    • Otherwise, Ico DisAppr Heart Leliana disapproves (-3)
  • Free Jowan and tell him to run and that you never want to see him again. (Freeing Jowan and destroying the cricle will leave the Warden with only one option: kill Connor.)
    • Ico DisAppr Heart Wynne disapproves (-5)
    • Ico DisAppr Heart Alistair disapproves (-5) (but you may persuade him this is the right course of actions to avoid this penalty)
    • Ico DisAppr Heart Sten disapproves (-5)
    • Ico Appr Heart Morrigan approves (+7)
  • Leave Jowan locked up:
    • He will remain in the cell until either you change your mind or Bann Teagan retrieves him later.
    • No approval changes

Explore the Castle

Main article: Redcliffe Castle

After meeting Jowan, the Warden will have to fight her/his way through the rest of the Castle. Up from the Dungeon into the Main Floor, back down to the Basement level, in the Cellar portion, to reach the Courtyard. Here the Warden can open the outer gate and let Ser Perth in with a few knights. They can help in dealing with a Revenant and his minions, who are guarding the Courtyard. Eventually, the Warden will reach the Main Hall of the Castle and find Bann Teagan (possessed), Connor (possessed) and Isolde. A cut-scene ends with a fight between the Warden and a group of (presumably possessed) knights, lead by Bann Teagan himself. Connor runs away in the midst of the confrontation. At this point, the Warden has to make a decision in regard to how the Demon possessing Connor should be handled:

  • Kill Connor: This leads to a battle with a Desire Demon inside the castle, where she is tougher than in the Fade.
  • Use Jowan's blood magic to enter the Fade and kill the demon: The Arlessa will sacrifice her life to enable Jowan to cast the spell - this option is available only if Jowan is still around (even if he is still imprisoned)
Note: Either of the first two options lead to a conversation initiated by Alistair the next time the Warden enters the Party Camp; see below Alistair's Reactions'
  • Travel to the Circle Tower and ask the Circle for help: This will spare Connor and Isolde = this option is only available if the Warden has not completed the Broken Circle quest yet, or if s/he has sided with the Magi at the end of that quest line.
Note: It is suggested that the Warden explore most of the Castle (including the Upper Floor) before moving forward in this quest line. Some of the enemies and rewards available up to this point will not be available once the quest is progressed. Be careful when talking to Connor: certain dialog options may incite the demon to attack and you will be forced to kill Connor. Also, do not enter the Arl's bedroom as the same result will happen.

Of course, one of the consequences of this choice is the approval rating of your Companions.

Enter the Fade

The Fade can be entered by the Warden (if playing as a mage), Morrigan, Wynne, Jowan (if he was freed and the Circle was recruited) or First Enchanter Irving (if you recruited the Circle and manage to persuade him). The discussion regarding who will go should trigger approval changes. Sten, if in the active party, gives Ico DisAppr Heart disapproves (Expression error: Unexpected = operator.) when the mages start the ritual.

  • If you say you must think about who will go (note: you can repeat this as many times as you wish):
    • Ico Appr Heart Alistair approves (+4)
    • Ico Appr Heart Leliana approves (+2)
    • Ico DisAppr Heart Sten disapproves (-10)
    • Ico DisAppr Heart Oghren disapproves (-3)
    • Ico Appr Heart Wynne approves (+4)
  • If you decide to let Jowan sacrifice Isolde:
    • Ico DisAppr Heart Shale disapproves (-5)
    • Ico DisAppr Heart Leliana disapproves (-3)
    • Ico DisAppr Heart Alistair disapproves (-10) (even he isn't inside the party)
    • Ico DisAppr Heart Wynne disapproves (-10) (or -20 if you send her into the Fade)
    • Ico Appr Heart Morrigan approves (+2) (or -1 if you send her into the Fade)
  • If you have the Circle of Magi use lyrium:
    • Ico Appr Heart Wynne approves (+4)
    • Ico Appr Heart Alistair approves (+4)
    • Ico Appr Heart Leliana approves (+2)
    • Ico DisAppr Heart Sten disapproves (-10)
    • Ico DisAppr Heart Oghren disapproves (-3)
  • If you suggest killing Connor:
    • Ico DisAppr Heart Leliana disapproves (-5) (even she isn't inside the party [BUG?],unless you persuade her)
    • Ico DisAppr Heart Wynne disapproves (-2)
    • Ico DisAppr Heart Oghren disapproves (-3)
    • Ico Appr Heart Shale approves (+4)
    • Ico Appr Heart Sten approves (+4)

Note that if you choose Jowan, he is capable of casting blood magic but he has only basic gear with him. If you send someone other than The Warden, you will not have the option of getting a reward from the Fade Demon.

Note: Irving will perform the ritual to send a mage in the fade with Lyrium but only Jowan, Morrigan, or Wynne will tell you this ritual is possible. If Morrigan left the party (if you refused to recover Flemeth's grimoire or another reason) or you killed or let Jowan escape telling him that you did not want to ever see he again, your only option is to kill Connor.

The Fade

See also: The Fade: Concerning Connor

One of the options in dealing with Connor is to enter the Fade as the Warden yourself (assuming the Warden is a Mage). This section of the Fade is fairly small and a single path winds its way through smaller portions. Various Fade Portals will provide passage to the next part every time. On the destination side of each portal, the Warden will find what appears to be Connor, but quickly turns into a Demon after a brief dialogue. These Demons have the appearance of the Desire Demon the Warden is hunting, but none of its abilities. As the Warden progresses, the Demons will also be aided by Lesser Rage Demons. After defeating each Demon, the Fade portal that lead to the encounter re-opens, allowing passage to the next section.

The Desire Demon

Fade desire demon

The Desire Demon as met in the Fade.

In the Fade, the demon possessing Connor can either be killed or convinced to trade a favor for its life. If the Warden is a mage and entered the Fade personally, the Blood Mage specialization can be unlocked by conversing with the demon. If someone else (Morrigan, Wynne, Jowan, or Irving) enters the Fade, the specialization cannot be unlocked.

Soon after entering the Fade, you will see the Arl calling out for Connor. Speaking with him is not necessary, but it can be informative. Continue down the path and enter the portal, where you will see Connor. You must speak with Connor; regardless of which options are selected the demon will replace Connor and fight you. Once defeated, the demon will disappear and the exit portal will activate. Traveling through it will lead to another "Connor". This process repeats three times. None of the dialogue options change the progression nor the final conversation with the true Desire Demon.

When you speak with the demon in her true form, you should not choose any of the below replies if you wish to gain a reward from her:

  • "There will be no discussion."
  • "No, I will not deal with you."
  • "I want you to pay for your atrocities."
  • "I want nothing from you."
  • "I say no deal."
  • "No. Our talk is done here."

If the option, "(Intimidate) How about you leave and I do not destroy you." is selected the only way to still get a reward from the demon is if a second, harder Intimidate test is passed: "(Intimidate) On the contrary, I believe you can offer more." This is the only way to get the demon to leave for good, or at least promise to leave for good, and still get a reward from it.

Other than the above mentioned, every option will eventually lead to a final choice that will determine what Desire Demon will give you. Possible trades are:

  • "Arcane secrets. I want to know specialized blood magic." → unlocks the Blood Mage specialization.
  • "I'll take pleasure, demon. Show me what you've got." → a kissing scene and sex between the Warden and the demon.
  • "Pleasure is empty. I want the love of those around me." → you can boost one of your companions' approval ratings Ico Appr Heart approves (Expression error: Unexpected = operator.).
  • "Keep it simple. Something to increase my talents." → you get a Tome of Ethereal Suggestion (+1 talent/spell).
  • "I want nothing from you."

If you unlock Blood Mage, it will appear in the specializations the next time you level up.

Notes

  • Like all other specializations, the Blood Mage unlock is tied to your account, and only needs to be unlocked on one character. One also has the option of simply unlocking it once, then reverting to a prior save.
  • If you are intimidating enough you can intimidate her twice to let her go away permanently and get one of the trades for free as well.
  • If you attack and kill the demon in the Fade, you will not be able to loot her as nothing real exists in the fade.
  • If you choose Irving, you can not make any deals with the demon and you face a difficult time in the fade, for Irving is a very weak offensive mage.

Kill Connor

If you wait to make your decision and explore the castle, you will eventually stumble upon Connor. If you enter the Arl's room, you will get in combat with the desire demon. This may be a bit tougher than in the Fade, as she summons rage demons and undead to help her. Note that if the demon is killed in the castle, you can loot her here.

If you win the fight, you have several options:

    • Let Connor's mother kill him herself:
      • Ico Appr Heart Morrigan approves (+4)
      • Ico Appr Heart Wynne approves (+1)
      • Ico DisAppr Heart Alistair disapproves (-10))
    • Knock her out and kill Connor yourself:
      • Ico Appr Heart Morrigan approves (+4)
      • Ico Appr Heart Sten approves (+4)
      • Ico DisAppr Heart Wynne disapproves (-5)
      • Ico Appr Heart Zevran approves (+6)
      • Ico DisAppr Heart Leliana disapproves (-5)
      • Ico DisAppr Heart Alistair disapproves (-20)
    • Kill Connor yourself:
      • Ico DisAppr Heart Leliana disapproves (-3)
      • Ico Appr Heart Morrigan approves (+4)
      • Ico Appr Heart Sten approves (+4)
      • Ico Appr Heart Wynne approves (+1)
      • Ico Appr Heart Zevran approves (+2)


Result

Once the Demon is defeated (one way or another), a cut-scene will lead the Warden back to Redcliffe Village. Teagan is leading the rebuilding effort since the Arl is still sick (albeit in what seems to be a stable condition): the only hope to heal him is The Urn of Sacred Ashes (If the Warden has already completed that quest, [s]he may present the ashes right away)). if Jowan is still alive, Teagan imprisons him again for his brother to judge once/if he will be healed.

Rewards

After the Attack at Nightfall

Ico helm heavy Helm of the Red - if you can keep all villagers and knights alive

After dealing with Connor

  • Isolde will try to persuade the Warden by promising some of her wealth, but will eventually only produce an Enchanter's Staff (which she claims to be "the most valuable thing to her"); if Connor still lives, you can suggest she give it to him instead
Classico bloodmage Blood Mage specialization unlocked (if the Warden is a mage and asked for arcane secrets from the Desire Demon)

After Arl Eamon recovers

Ico shield kitemetal Redcliffe Elite Shield

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specialization unlocked
  • Additionally once Arl Eamon is cured you will receive either +1 spell/talent (as mage/warrior) or +1 skill (as rogue) if his offer of a reward is accepted. You may also receive +1 attribute point (though this may be platform specific).

Alistair's Reaction

Upon arriving in camp after resolving the situation with Connor, Alistair will confront the Warden about it. If the Warden chooses to kill Connor, or allowed Jowan to use Blood Magic to reach the Fade, Alistair will angrily confront her/him about it; you can attempt to mitigate Alistair's reaction, or fan the flames.

  • Allowing Jowan to use Blood Magic may trigger Alistair to lose Ico DisAppr Heart disapproves (Expression error: Unexpected = operator.) immediately, and during the Camp conversation, up to an additional Ico DisAppr Heart disapproves (Expression error: Unexpected = operator.) can be lost.
  • If Alistair is in the party and The Warden kills Connor, Ico DisAppr Heart disapproves (Expression error: Unexpected = operator.) from the Camp conversation may be lost. However, if the Warden assures Alistair that the act was not enjoyed, Alistair may acknowledge the choice as necessary, and only Ico DisAppr Heart disapproves (Expression error: Unexpected = operator.) will be lost; this may be affected by the way in which the Warden speaks to Connor and Isolde during the quest.
  • If Alistair is not in the party when Connor is killed or Jowan uses Blood Magic, he will still confront The Warden in camp. he can be soothed and persuaded that the the Warden did the best he/she could, leading to a loss of only Ico DisAppr Heart disapproves (Expression error: Unexpected = operator.) or, even less, Ico DisAppr Heart disapproves (Expression error: Unexpected = operator.) if the Warden succeeds in Persuading him that there was no other option.
  • If Alister was with The Warden when you killed Conner, when he confronts you at the camp, he will ask "I'd like to talk to you about what happened today." If The Warden picks the option '"I think that turned out quite well, don't you?", The conversation won't involve Conner at all instead it'll involve the Arl. The Warden can get a Ico Appr Heart approves (Expression error: Unexpected = operator.) from this conversation.

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On the other hand, if the Circle of Magi are called in, which results in Connor and his mother living, then when Alistair confronts you he will thank you rather than be angry.

Additional Notes

  • If you have done the Broken Circle quest first you can only seek the Circle's help if you sided with the mages.

Side quests

Ico Quest Lost in the Castle
Ico Quest A Missing Child

Bugs

  • ps3Icon ps3 If player discusses Jowan's plan first but decides against it, the codex will read that The Warden killed Arlessa Isolde even if they chose to save her.
  • ps3Icon ps3pcIcon pc If player discusses Jowan's plan first but decides against it, the codex will read that The Warden killed not only Arlessa Isolde but Connor as well even if the player chose to save both.
  • ps3Icon ps3 If The Warden kills Isolde and Connor, after talking to Bann Teagan approval may be gained from Zevran Approves (+4) even if he is not in the party.
Note: This has only been confirmed in PS3 version.
  • If you go back to the castle after destroying the desire demon, you can unlock the vault with 30 Cunning for a bonus of 50xp each time, this allows an unlimited amount of XP to be attained by repeatedly zoning in and out of the upper level.
  • ps3Icon ps3 If player goes with Jowan's plan to collect Lyrium at the Circle of Magi and not kill Arlessa Isolde, the player and the party goes out the door which concludes to a cutscene of Jowan using Blood Magic on Isolde, after the cutscene you return to Castle Redcliff and it says you completed getting Lyrium without killing Conner or Arlessa Isolde but you did not complete the Broken Circle quest.

See also

Ico Castle Redcliffe Castle
Ico Village Redcliffe Village
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