Talk:Spell combinations

Winter's Grasp Shattering

It says that you can freeze stuff with winters grasp, so should it also be added to the shattering combo?

:P

Obviously, a work in progress. Please excuse its stubbiness.Cheeseslayersmu 03:42, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

I suspect this is obvious to everyone, but just listing the combinations isn't nearly as good as also saying how that combination differs from what you'd expect. Like the repulsion + paralysis one results in a kind of explosive wave of paralysis.

Redirection

Spell combo, spell combos, spell chain, spell chains, spell chaining, and spell combination all redirect here now. Cheeseslayersmu 23:07, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

New information from the character creator

Here's a list of spell combos dug up from the codex hidden in some of the character creator files:

http://daforums.bioware.com/viewtopic.html?topic=698398&forum=145&sp=90

Look for the post by immeyourenot.

Actually a lot of these are no-brainers, but a few would be difficult to figure out.

72.235.91.236 06:22, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

All done. Thanks again. Loleil 07:30, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Testing combinations

Firstly, someone just added spellmight for "Storm of the Century". I tested without it and I got no combo... though... Blizzard+Tempest is quite powerful. I will test with Spellmight today if I get a chance. I tested Force Field+Crushing Prison and I am getting nothing. You can't target an ally with Crushing Prison. I will see if I can find an enemy that has it some time and drop a FF on their target and see if it does anything though. Goblinlordx 22:32, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

The combinations on this page aren't all confirmed, so it's quite possible that names and spells are incorrect. Feel free to correct as necessary . Loleil 23:08, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

I can confirm that Force Field + Crushing Prison is Shockwave. On the PC though, you can't use it on a friend, only enemies. Storm of the Century doesn't work with just the three DoT primals, unlike what other sites say. Haven't tried (or learned) Spell Might yet. --DarkJeff 00:41, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

I didn't mention it but I was able to confirm Grease Fire, Flame Quencher, and Improved Drain since they were easy to test. -Goblinlordx 03:34, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

I've confirmed Spellmight + Blizzard + Tempest is Storm of the Century. It's a strange one, I think the AoE is bigger than either Blizzard or Tempest individually. The radii added together? --DarkJeff 02:41, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

So it actually came up with a codex entry with Spellmight? Interesting... -Goblinlordx 23:37, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Blizzard + Tempest + Inferno in any permutation failed to give me the codex entry, nor have any effects beyond all three in the same area. The Store of the Century animation is actually different, and the AoE increase tends to blast me as well, heh. --DarkJeff 23:42, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Spellmight + Blizzard + Tempest does activate storm of the century and it does add it to the codex.However it doesn't have the same effect as blizzard and tempest combined.Rather, it does around 50-80 damage per pulse and does not slow down enemies or knock down enemies, it does have a different animation than blizzard or tempest,it basically looks like a swirling cyclone with lightning shooting through it.It deals electric damage, doesn't do any cold damage.Maybe blizzard is there to just expand the radius of the aoe?Also, I noticed that you don't have to have spellmight activated for both of the casts, you only need to use it on the last one you activate.And just in case anyone can't tell by the description on the article it does matter in which order you stack the two spells, you can put tempest + blizzard too.64.136.26.235 20:44, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Earthquake + AoE

Earthquake + an AoE like Inferno is a mega killer against all mobs that aren't sure-footed. Blizzard and that lightning AoE can be added. It's especially useful in confined spaces as death roads, for example. The caster gets a protection spell by Wynne, casts earthquake into the area and then the follow-on AoEs. Wynne and possibly Morrigan cast stonefist and other stopping spells against those who succeed to leave the area of effect (stonefist pushes back into the earthquake region). I used this combo many dozen times in my first (normal difficulty) game and it killed hundreds of enemies, probably more than a thousand. Bossmobs, mobs with more than two legs and Ogres tend to ignore the effects of Earthquake, though. 87.79.58.108 02:02, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

That isn't what this page is about. There are certain combinations of spells that will cause Codex Entries to appear when used for the first time. This page is for the spells described by those combinations. The Earthquake+Inferno sounds like an excellent way to kill a lot of enemies very quickly, but because no Codex entry pops up when you first use it, it won't be added to the page.Swk3000 15:50, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Updating

I'm working on upgrading this page to be as high quality (:D) as the rest of the spell pages that I've updated.

--Various Pickles 02:05, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Quick Question

Does improved drain also work with affliction hex ? 109.84.225.195 21:30, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

I'm fairly certain that it does not, but I'll take a look at the code when I get a chance. --Various Pickles 23:43, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Merge this page with Codex:_Spell_Combinations?

OK, above Swk3000 says "There are certain combinations of spells that will cause Codex Entries to appear when used for the first time. This page is for the spells described by those combinations." Could I therefore suggest that "Spell Combinations" is set up to redirect to Codex:_Spell_Combinations, which I've just updated to include all the info on this page. --Zoev 23:06, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

The Codex page is ugly and most people looking for the information probably just care about the combination instead of where it fits in the game lore. Like spells, I believe this page should be first and foremost about raw information. On the other hand, cross-linking each combination (via its h3 or a See Also) to its codex information entry (its appropriate h3 on the codex page) and vice versa would be a useful, neat, and organized compromise. --Various Pickles 11:13, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

As there is a lot more info to added about these spells, I don't think a merge would work in this instance. It would also throw off the format for the spells pages, though I definitely think the pages should be cross linked. Loleil 11:46, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

Various Pickles said "The Codex page is ugly" -- Aww! And there was me thinking I'd made it pretty! Oh well! Whilst there's no info now on Spell Combinations that isn't on Codex: Spell Combinations, I take the point that there could well be in future and that adding it to the codex page would clutter it up and make for non-standard formatting. I'll add in links to individual spell combos to the codex page as suggested. -Zoev 12:20, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

No offense intended, of course :D Like Loleil said, there's still a ton of data I need to add to the combos, specifically numbers (look at Primal Spells) about damage, aoe, etc --Various Pickles 17:28, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

None taken - just kidding! I know it's not pretty, really. Though, on a serious note, if you do have a specific issue with the look of the page, or any ideas about how to improve it (other than some images, which I'm already planning) then I'd love to hear them. I've already added links from the codex combos to this page as you suggested. I've not done it the other way around as you clearly have a vision for the page and I wasn't sure where you were picturing the links to the codex going. --Zoev 19:55, December 17, 2009 (UTC)