Talk:Resistances (Origins)

Types of Resistances

Physical Resistance doesn't contribute to Damage Reduction do they? It is possible to have the character's Physical Resistance @ 100, but they still take damage =/ Physical Resistance is said in-game that it only increases the chance to Resist being Knockeddown & Stunned.Also said in-game, is that 0.5 strength + 0.5 dexterity +... = Physical Resistance Score, not 1xstr + 0.5 dex =/>> Fycan [fahy-kan] @ 10:14, February 3, 2010 (UTC)The following comment was moved from the article to its talk page.
I'm pretty sure this is Incorrect. Strength, Constitution and Dexterity contributes to Physical Resistance by the same value. =/ ? and there's a Cap for Physical Resistance at 100, you can try it. The preceding comment was made by >> Fycan [fahy-kan] @ 02:03, 4 February 2010

100% Resistances Items

I'm surprised that no one has looked into this yet- unless I just can't find the page for it. I thought it might be an idea to list equipment that can give resistances to damage types, and possible combinations to give 100% resistances (immunity).I'm not very adept at using the wiki features yet, so I don't know what layout would be most appropriate. Or if a new page should be created just for listing resistance equipment- since there would be a lot.Perhaps a table listing in each column:

1. Name of piece of equipment

1. Equipment type (boots/ring/necklace/ etc)
2. Effects of equipment

Of course, making sure to link the name of piece of equipment so that the reader can find more detail on it's specific page.

[EDIT: I'm moving the table to it's own section- 'Possible table layout' because its screwing aroundd with the rest of the text and I don't know why or how to fix it. BenJP 22:18, February 24, 2010 (UTC)]

• This is just the stuff I've put on Oghren in one of my playthroughs- gives him 94% Spell Resistance.Something I'm going to look into is 'chance to dodge attacks'. What would 100% in this do, I wonder?So something like this, maybe? What do we think?BenJP 20:11, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

• I think elemental resistances cap at 75%, and there's no way to get 100% dodge chance (only 80%).
  

First Enchanter's Cowl - 10%
Reaper's Vestments - 10%
Cailan's Greaves - 20%
Fade Shroud - 25%
The Spellward - 10%
Guildmaster's Belt - 5%

Mictlantecuhtli 21:34, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

• These could put your dwarf at 100% depending on your weapon...

Ancient Elven Gloves 4% spell resistance

Havard's Aegis 4% spell resistance

Lufos 21:54, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

• You need a rogue with the Evasion talent. This presumeably gives +25% chance to dodge (check the description). Since Reaper's Vestments are mage only you'd need to use Evon the Great's Mail instead. That a high strength requirement for a rogue, but still. This gives 105% chance to dodge! BenJP 22:03, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
• Wait, no that's 20%, not 25 for evasion talent, but thats still 100%. Also, I'm looking at the page for Evasion and it says that the bonus is something other than the '%# to dodge attacks'- but I would assume that the description of the talent refers to this effect- because it sounds just like the description for the Dwarf racial ability (which is known to be +10% spell resistance). BenJP 22:38, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

I got the table working partially.. now the bullets in the last 3 cells won't work... awesome. I need to eat then I'll try and fix that Lufos 22:56, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

oops. I'll just not touch it anymore. Technology has a tendency to break around me, anyway. Sorry! BenJP 23:00, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

easy undo Lufos 23:20, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

I'll say again, there is no way as a mage or rogue to reach 100% dodge chance. You'll still be capped at 75% as a rogue since you can't take Fade Shroud also. Mictlantecuhtli 23:37, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Alright I got the table working.. There is something wrong with the table tool. I had to manually enter the source code. I would not advise altering it again, Ben. Lufos 23:57, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, thanks again. Also, I see that you're right, Mictlantecuhtli, I was thinking that you meant Fade Wall (the shield) not Fade Shroud (the arcane warrior spell). Refer to the discussion of the Evasion page for a link to an in-depth discussion of the defence vs % chance to dodge debate. Thanks for the help! After reading that, people can make their own decision as to whether its worth getting as high %hance to dodge as possible.

ANYWAY would it be worth doing what I mentioned initially? List possible ways to get 100% resistances or near as possible to? BenJP 00:13, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Well 100% spell is easily do-able. Especially, if Dweomer Runes are stack-able. Lufos 00:37, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Very true. I forgot the runes were stackable. Perhaps we should look into which items give 100% mental, physical and elemental resistances, and balances between having all four.

Also, why does it say you can only have up to 75% elemental resistance (I assume thats for an individual element, not all four at once)? Because there arent enough resistance items? I thought there were loads...

Ring of Ages (+20% all element resistance) and Embri's Many Pockets (+5% all elemet resistance) would help, I should think.

Looks like that plus Wade's Superior Drakeskin Armor Set and Apprentice's Amulet gives 100% fire resistance. (There must be a few other things that give fire resistance, too)

By 'capped' does it mean that the game willonly let you have 75% resistance, even if you equipt items that give you more?

BenJP 00:58, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Doesn't matter. The cap is at 75%. You can get each element to 75%, but it won't go higher than that. You will always take atleast 25% elemental damage. Lufos 01:02, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Well thats pretty annoying. Still, might be worth listing what items can give you resistances, what gives you 100/75/as high as possible % (and balances between them), like I said before. However, I need to sleep. Thanks for the help, BenJP 01:10, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, no problem. Lufos 01:14, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Possible table layout

94% spell resistance

Item Name	Item Type	Item Effects
Knight Commander's Plate	Massive Armor	+5 willpower +40% spell resistance +10 mental resistance
The Spellward	Amulet	+5 willpower +8 health regeneration while exploring +30% spell resistance +10% chance to dodge attacks Chance to avoid missile attacks
Antivan Leather Boots	Light boots	+4% spell resistance
Grandmaster Dweomer Rune	Rune	+10% spell resistance
Dwarven Resistance	Racial Ability	+10% spell resistance

100% Elemental Resistance - Impossible

The game caps elemental resistances at 75% so that's the maximum you can have, and since balms, salves, etc grant +30% and +60% for three minutes gear isn't that high of a concern when a greater balm will do just as well, and high spellpower can net you around +30% also from Heroic Defense. I tried to get 100% for my aura of pain warrior, but it's a moot point since aura of pain ignores spirit resistance for the self inflicted damage (either a bug or intentional is not clear). Take for instance Juggernaut Armor Set, with Ring of Ages all a warrior wearing them will need to do for 75% resistances is drink a lesser balm/salve or have heroic defense cast on them with a spellpower of around 180+. Mictlantecuhtli 12:14, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Or you can just activate Shimmering Shield as an arcane warrior. Lufos 13:33, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

I have never played an arcane warrior, they are too unbalanced. Basically you just need a small list of items granting resistances, and then list lesser/greater salves, and balms also. Mictlantecuhtli 14:02, February 25, 2010 (UTC)