Talk: Red Templars

Delete

All of the info in here is based on speculation based on one video. A pre-alpha video. With speculation taken as fact. Henio0 (talk) 17:57, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

Also, the reference leads to a fan post. It is not a valid reference. Just because an image looks similar doesn't mean it is precisely the same one. Henio0 (talk) 17:59, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

Page of Venatori is shorter and it exists for a year, if they have right to exist and being so short, then red templars also can exist on this wikia. They are already mentioned by Inquisition captain and we saw them on demo fighting the Inquisitor, the captain told what did they do.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 18:02, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

Not enough content was not cited as one of the reasons for deletion. We don't know if red templars are a seperate faction from templar order and thus could be added to the Templar Order page. Henio0 (talk) 18:17, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

What about Venatori? We don't know if they aren't remainings of Haven Cult or Imperial templars or an alamarri tribe. Are we supposed to delate them as well, because there are things we don't know?FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 18:20, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

Obviously there wasn't a deletion proposed to the Venatori page. I don't see any point in having a page on Venatori, either, but that is not the subject of this discussion. And I am just one man and this is a community project and thus I asked for others' opinion. If it is usuccessfull, so be it. Henio0 (talk) 18:28, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

The fact that one article exists is not justification to keep another. This discussion is about this article, not venatori or any others. --Kelcat (talk) 20:33, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

Why nobody cared about signing Venatori for deletion before I did it advised by Henio0?FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 20:39, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

speculation based on a pre-alpha demonstration video. We don't know if any of the things listed here are actually going to be in the final game. --Kelcat (talk) 20:33, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

Changing to based on new template. --Kelcat (talk) 00:02, April 5, 2014 (UTC)

It's clear enough that they are a different faction to the 'Templars', hence why in both words from BioWare as well as in-game content, they are differentiated from the other Templars, just by the word Red (as well as using a different insignia). Alexsau1991 ^{(talk page)} 23:20, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

I agree with Henio0. We don't seem to have enough information since the game isn't out yet and it's almost entirely based on speculation. - 12:15, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

I understand that it's based on a pre-alpha video, but I don't think it's wrong to document it on the wiki, as long it's properly sourced. If it's no longer valid upon the game's release, then it should simply be deleted. A better source would be this article. I think everyone will agree that any information released regarding DAI is subject to change. If we need to put a disclaimer regarding that, we can always make a template for that. ··· d·day! 21:27, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

That templare would be actually very useful. Lately even information supposedly confirmed in magazines turns out to be false, so a lot of things we think are in the game at the moment will end up not being there. Henio0 (talk) 22:22, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

In fact I am willing to vote if there is a sign that says information within the post may be due to change. Henio0 (talk) 22:27, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

Seconding this. An Inquisition disclaimer template is exactly what this wiki needs right now. --Kelcat (talk) 02:04, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

I've added a notice regarding it (it could probably use a better image since that's the one used on the portal, heh). I've added the source to the article for the lead, as I don't know where the rest of the information is from (I've only just skimmed through the GI article, and don't see anything regarding behemot being that way due to the red lyrium). I'm leaving the deletion tag for now though. ··· d·day! 19:25, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

I can make a new image, if we need one. Are we still going for the ringed hand? Or, like, the helmet? Henio0 (talk) 19:31, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

Whichever is fine and if you have time of course! I personally don't have a preference.··· d·day! 19:38, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

Okay, that makes all votes as I vote that as well with the template, and one . Unless anyone else makes a statement, the article will stay. However, ever since I added the citation needed template, no one has added any citations. I am unsure if it was shown in some video, or someone made a huge leap and assumed Behemots are Red Templars. Henio0 (talk) 09:03, April 6, 2014 (UTC)]

Just realised HD3 voted for, before the template. I wonder if he changes his mind with the template. Henio0 (talk) 09:05, April 6, 2014 (UTC)

Yes sorry, in light of the new disclaimer template I am fine with leaving it up. In regard to the citation needed part though perhaps get rid of that part until we have evidence confirming the speculation.- 09:10, April 6, 2014 (UTC)

Red Lyrium

Do you reckon they chisel off bits of Meredith then? Because going by what we've seen so far, Red Lyrium's something extremely rare only found in Primeval Thaigs, and on Meredith after you beat her in DA2. And if these guys are addicted to it ... either red lyrium's not as rare as is suggested, or the templars are going tomb raiding quite often. Eggy2504 (talk) 00:14, May 6, 2014 (UTC)

We saw lyrium crystals in Emprise Du Lion. I have a theory that the crystals grow from underground like plants, that's why they are easier to find. I have theory that corruption from Thedas makes them grow.156.17.71.249 (talk) 07:40, May 6, 2014 (UTC)

Red Templars

Wonder if this ends up as a player class or not? Femto Von Godhand (talk) 07:10, October 1, 2014 (UTC)

Unknown reasons?

I understand that official confirmations are important but I'm still questioning why the page says that the Red Templars are against the inquisition for "unknown reasons". I haven't looked into the story too much but I know some people are suspicious of the Inquisitor and their connection to the Breach, so it doesn't feel like a crazy assumption to suggest that the guys using red lyrium, which causes madness and paranoia, would believe that the Inquisition was evil or full of demons and blood magic, especially considering there are apostates and necromancers among them (and Cole). Again I understand that a source is probably needed but I doubt that the rivalry is going to be due to something else. Welshman15 (talk) 10:55, November 13, 2014 (UTC)