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Sword?[]
Could someone please check this for me to make sure I'm not putting in false information. I've removed the references to a sword as a reward here. I've run more than 4 playthroughs and I've never had the option for a sword to be made. It's always a bow or a breastplate. Could someone clarify this? Thanks. --MiyuEmi 16:18, November 24, 2009 (UTC)
- Oops, sorry about that. I was working from memory and couldn't remember what the second reward was. Thanks for fixing it. ;) -Ancestralmask 16:22, November 24, 2009 (UTC)
- I just thought, a sword, cool. How did I miss that?! Always up for quality free goods in RPGs. --MiyuEmi 16:25, November 24, 2009 (UTC)
- Oh you know, you can only get the sword if your persuasion is up at max and you have 30 Cunning, and then only if you're playing as a Dalish Elf and have Zevran in the party with you, and also you must have romanced him. Plus, Varathorn will only give you the sword if you sided with the Werewolves. - Ancestralmask 16:28, November 24, 2009 (UTC)
- I just thought, a sword, cool. How did I miss that?! Always up for quality free goods in RPGs. --MiyuEmi 16:25, November 24, 2009 (UTC)
Wolf-Killer?[]
I recently did the quest, Persuaded him to make the Bow and Armor and got Wolf-killer bow, but the stats are not the same. It simply says "+6 Attack" instead of the "+4 damage vs. undead, +8 damage vs. beasts". It still reads Tier 5, just the extra effects are different. Dalish Elf, Tier 3 Persuasion, first area I did. Wondering why it's not the same if anybody knows.
Reply[]
Its not the same cause Armor/weapons scale depending on your level. So if your level 10 and get that area done then the armor and bow are level 10 now if you did that area last or when your level 15 for examle, then those items would have better stats. that's one of the last areas you might want to do. My first play though i did the same thing and it was tough, its very doable but the monsters are tougher than say red cliff area.
Any negative effects for getting Varathotn to make both items?[]
Just wondering this myself.
- Been awhile since I've done this but last time I did he was a little snotty with me in the moment but otherwise no other changes. I don't have a save game handy but from what I can recall, none of the item prices went up because he was so offended or anything. If something in his shop changes it must not be anything I buy from him. Millahnna (talk) 10:51, June 23, 2011 (UTC)
Possible trivia[]
I don't usually edit here and wanted to pass it though the talk page first. When first talking to Varathorn regarding this quest he mentions that he can produce either a blade or a breastplate (seen here), this contradicts the actual rewards for this quest being a breastplate, as stated by Varathorn, and a bow, instead of a blade which was mentioned. Crazy sam10 10:30, September 24, 2013 (UTC)
Bug[]
I accepted this quest but did not go to complete it when i got the bark. Then i went and joined the werewolfs, killing Varathorn in the process. Now this quest sits in my questlog, uncompleted.
Persuade level 3? Persuade level 6?[]
OK, I can guess that having three ranks in Coercion or two ranks and 35+ Cunning would probably count as "Persuade level 3" but what is required for Persuade level 6? 4 ranks in Coercion and 60+ Cunning? The language is very confusing. The wiki page for Coercion makes no mention of persuade levels. What I really want to know is how many ranks in Persuade I need to get both the armor and the bow. HolyGuardian80 (talk) 13:14, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- I figured out that 2 ranks (= Improved Coercion) and 31 Cunning was not good enough to get both items. I'll keep trying as I raise my Cunning. HolyGuardian80 (talk) 13:00, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
- OK, interesting update: after saving Deygan and solving Cammen's dilemma (thus raising Clan Attitude in both cases afaik), I WAS able to get both items with 2 ranks and 31 Cunning. I suppose I passed "Persuade level 3" but not "Persuade level 6."