Talk: Race

Werewolves?

Since Golems and such were added to this page, do you think werewolves should also be added? WhiteClaudia (talk) 19:01, December 24, 2013 (UTC)

Maybe I was wrong by adding golems, because they are creatures.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 19:13, December 24, 2013 (UTC)

Valid entries in this page

I think there should be some criteria on what we should consider on this fantasy universe as race. I think we could use wikipedia's interpretation:

Many fantasy stories and worlds refer to their main sapient humanoid species as "races" rather than species.

As such, darkspawn can be described as sapient since they are able to craft various things as well as some of them possess advanced thinking and speech (the Architect, The Disciples). On the contrary, ghasts should be consider as "animals" since according to their codex entry "they show no signs of true intelligence".

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Furthermore, as humanoid is another condition, spirits and demons should be excluded.
12:58, December 28, 2013 (UTC)

But Desire demons are humanoid.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 13:15, December 28, 2013 (UTC)

In the ever-changing environment of the Fade, its dwellers (be it spirits or demons) may take up whichever form they wish. Desire demons, assume attractive humanoid forms when interacting with mortals, for obvious reasons. 13:20, December 28, 2013 (UTC)

I think the criteria should be whether they have a significant effect on the game world that goes beyond instinct. That they form some sort of faction, and if this was a more open role-playing game, would be among a selection of races that a player could choose from, knowing that they had enough agency to be a viable choice. Human, Dwarf, Elf, Qunari, Fex (particularly if they're fleshed out more in DA:I), and Darkspawn would count. I think Darkspawn is pushing it, but would include them because Bioware do (with the Darkspawn Chronicles). Everything else would fall into an appropriate creature category. -Sophia (talk) 13:33, December 28, 2013 (UTC)

This is just giving some information from the toolset, in case it helps. In it, "Races" are categorised as:

• Dwarf
• Elf
• Human
• Qunari
• Animal
• Beast
• Darkspawn
• Dragon
• Golem
• Spirit
• Undead

It also lists and categorises specific "Core Creatures":

• Ambient (Chicken, Deer, Dog, Goat, Halla, Cat, Nug, Owl, Ox, Pig, Ram, Rat, Raven, Squirrel, Wisp)
• Animals (Alpha Wolf, Black Bear, Great Bear, Bronto, Black Bear, Mabari, Giant Rat, Wolf)
• Beasts (Deep Stalker, Deep Stalker Leader, Giant Spider, Poisonous Spider, Werewolf, Rabid Werewolf, Shadow Wolf, Wild Sylvan, Witherfang)
• Darkspawn:

• Corrupted Creatures (Bereskarn, Broodmother, Tentacle, Corrupted Spider, Blight Wolf)
• Genlocks (Genlock, Genlock Alpha, Genlock Emissary)
• Hurlocks (Hurlock, Hurlock Alpha, Hurlock Emissary)
• Ogres (Ogre, Ogre Alpha)
• Shrieks (Shriek, Shriek Alpha)
• (Archdemon)

• Demons:

• Fade (Ash Wraith, Greater Pride Demon, Lesser Pride Demon, Lesser Shade, Greater Rage Demon, Lesser Rage Demon, Greater Shade, Desire Demon)
• Possessed (Desire Abomination, Hunger Abomination, Rage Abomination, Sloth Abomination, Arcane Horror, Devouring Corpse, Enraged Corpse, Shambling Corpse, Revenant, Skeleton Archer, Fanged Skeleton, Devouring Skeleton, Shambling Skeleton)

• Dragons (Dragon, Dragonling, Drake, High Dragon)
• Golems (Steel Golem, Stone Golem)
• Humanoid (Bandit, Mercenary Archer, Mercenary Captain, Mercenary, Qunari Mercenary, Rogue)
• pets (Animated Dead) -Sophia (talk) 17:25, December 29, 2013 (UTC)

I appreciate your work Sophie, but I'm uncertain if this could be of any use. This is more likely for gameplay reasons. Eg. "beast" being a race or the core creatures having a category named "pets". By the way I am adding the "Unresolved" tag to the topic. 17:49, December 29, 2013 (UTC)