Talk: Mage-Templar War

EDIT WAR ALERT!!! Person keeps posting speculation crap

Someone keeps posting speculation crap near the end of Overview. Please do something about it. (VicGeorge2K9 (talk) 22:32, August 31, 2011 (UTC))

The user has been alerted. Since there isn't a point to discuss this (since this is purely speculation), I don't think a page protection is necessary. Hopefully, this ends. --D. (talk · contr) 00:44, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

Article neutrality

A little proposal re this article: lets stick to facts, namely events and words, and avoid mentioning motives and speculations, because they are debatable. It would also be great if someone cleaned the article up and removed such words as zealot, tyranny, oppression, atrocity etc since they are highly emotionally charged and do not contribute towards neutrality. Asherinka (talk) 09:21, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Article Structure

We have a separate article for the Battle of Kirkwall (9:37 Dragon). Given that 1. the war does not start until much later and the "battle" (that is never referred to as such in Asunder and instead is always called "Kirkwall rebellion") is technically not even the part of it, but rather a prerequisite 2. we have that article, I propose that we move any content that is missing from that article but is included in this one there and leave here only a short summary within background, not under a separate caption. Opinions? Asherinka (talk) 17:34, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. I think the Mage-Templar War starts when the Circle of Magi was actually dissolved. Anything before are more like "pre-war events". --D. (talk · contr) 17:59, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

Your reasoning on both points is sound, thus I heartily support you once again.

Tekka Ijuin | Talk

22:42, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

Agree that the war should break out in 9:40, not 9:37, since the war does not seem to have started until the end of Dragon Age: Asunder. Is this issue resolved...? Once resolved, the conflict box needs to be updated. e.g. IMO, Battle of Kirkwall (9:37) belligerents should be removed (Orsino, Meredith, Hawke); Free Marches conflicts date for war changed to 9:40, etc.

Also, the use of the modifier "rebel" is confusing, since it's not clear who's rebelling against what. It is used, for example, to describe both rebel mages and rebel templars. I would recommend against its use at all, although I still don't have a good word to describe either group now that both are separate from the Chantry. Independent mages? The "new" Templar Order? Or are templars just templars, regardless of who they work for? And, what about templars and seekers who are still loyal to the Chantry? Are they rebels? Rebels from the rebels? Anyhoo, I think you catch my meaning. :) --R2sMuse (talk) 14:57, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

It has been a while since this question was raised. Should we decide, or leave it open for more comments? I'd be pleased to take a crack at moving the Battle of Kirkwall details to the other article and streamlining this one, unless someone else would rather. --R2sMuse (talk) 02:24, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

I am not sure why the "Unresolved" tag has been placed in this discussion, since in fact there weren't any opposing views. Subsequently, I am removing it and I am making steps to materialize the result of the discussion. 09:21, September 19, 2013 (UTC)