Talk:Isabela

If you don't beat her in the game right away, you never get a second chance to learn dualist spec?

I beat her with a female-dwarven noble-warrior (tank build) with 10 cunning/40 dexterity.... must have lost a dozen times before Liliana/Zevron informed me how to beat her cheating.

I beat her the first hand with a dwarven rogue, my dex/cun must have been high enough to get some other dialogue options. As a mage with low dex/cun I get no options but to continue. It would be good if someone could put a value on the attribute levels you need to be able to beat her. It seems you can play her as often as you want. I don't have a rogue in the party, but it sounds like you can use their skill to beat her, (by talking to them), if your hero doesn't have them. If I remember I will try it.

OK, just tried this with a rogue in my party. When I was playing a rogue I had the option to grab her hand when she shuffled. Now that I am a cunningless mage, the rogue in my party stepped in after the first hand and helped me win on the second round.

Cheating at cards

Note that rather than catching Isabela cheating, a character with the Stealing Skill can cheat themselves by palming cards when dealing and/or from the deck or Isabela whilst playing. I'm not putting this on the main page as this is from memory and I don't have all the details, but I managed this by stealing cards whilst shuffling and from the deck with my mage who would have had cunning around 20-22, dexterity around 14 and probably 3 ranks in stealing. --Zoev 19:32, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

My mage had dexterity of 15, but with Leliana in the party (Dex: 33, Cunning: 41, Stealing maxed) I was able to palm cards to the main character and win the game. I made an addition to the Strategy entry. --Statueofmike 23:27, January 03, 2010 (UTC)