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I can't decide which screen shot is better for the page this one or this one. the first one shows templar whats-his-face in it, but the second one is way more cinematic. What do you guys think?

The first one, I like that one a more, gives a bit more drama, like if it goes wrong, there is a strong guy with a sword to take care of you ;) --Mytharox 13:20, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I feel the same way, I think it's important to have a templar as a prominent figure in the screen shot to highlight their role. Even if that role is brutally murdering you while you're completely defenseless. Pinkmullet 13:31, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

"Because the preliminary ritual requires a significant amount of lyrium, only the most promising apprentices are deemed worthy of attempting it. After a certain time, those who either do not show enough promise or are deemed a liability are either made Tranquil, executed, or imprisoned."

Where is the source for this, because I can't remember seeing anything in the games that would support this. Until someone can provide a valid source, I feel compelled to remove it.

it sounds familiar to me, though I can't place where, exactly. Might want to hear from others before you just cut it out of the page. Kelcat (talk) 09:07, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Really? Because It doesn't sound familiar to me at all, and the more I think about it, the more it seems to contradict the established facts of the games. So I am not comfortable adding it back without a source.

I agree with the anon. I think people might have gotten confused with the Redcliff Quest to save Connor from demonic possession which requires a lot of lyrium to enter the Fade but that circustance is different than the Harrowing. That was to send a physical body into the Fade, not a mage dreaming into the Fade. But if anyone wants to check with a source, they are free to change it back again.(Sports72Xtrm (talk) 05:00, November 6, 2013 (UTC))

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