Talk:Hardened

Hardened/Hardening

Just a suggestion - could this page be converted to a disambig page linking to Alistair's Family, Leliana's Past and Materials#Leather? (The newish disambig page Hardening I created could then be set to redirect here.) I think it's far more likely that people will be looking for info about whhat it means for Alistair or Leliana to be "hardened" than hardened leather. (Btw I put the merge tag on the talk page rather than actual page as I didn't know if it would mess up the redirect). --Zoev 15:08, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

In the absence of any objections, I'm going to go ahead and do this. --Zoev 14:02, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Human Noble vs Alistair for King

if Alistair is hardened is it then impossible for the male noble to be king? from what i have read it looks like only a non-hardened Alistair will let the warden be the king--Tbone11 (talk) 11:57, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Leliana in Inquisition

For one, the added paragraph sounds more heavily opinionated - for two, does that information belong to this page anyway? It sounds more like a small description of the character development of Leliana over which noone has control, and this page is not about that. -- 09:35, December 3, 2014 (UTC)

For one, it is not a character development. This section is about the effects of 'hardening' a character. Whilst incomplete - as i have mentioned - this new section details as much as i know on the choice the Inquisitor has to harden Leliana. I have experienced first hand the change in personality choosing to harden her has.

If anything, the section is very much incomplete and missing a LOT more information that i simply do not have.

And two, i have been pondering better wording for the description as it does not effectively convey the effect hardening has on her character. This, again, is due to lack of information so far.

If you have more to contribute or you have better wording than what i have written, by all means.

Just so this wouldn't be left hanging like this, a summary of the chat conversation: I said this article is about a character development for Alistair and Leliana in Origins, which has no effect on sequels whatsoever, and you said that I'm incorrect but it doesn't matter because I hold the power (apparently). You refuse to listen to either me or HD3 saying that you do not listen to someone who starts an edit war, even though noone did here, so I can only assume this is as far as we'll ever get. -- 10:18, December 3, 2014 (UTC)

The page is about the effect of hardening characters. I added information on a character hardening. That much is fact. You believed it did not belong, quoting the Keep as your reason. Only reason. Odd that you also quote that Hardening this character in Origins has no place in the Keep either - which means the character's Origins hardening information ALSO becomes invalid by that reasoning. It is you who refused to see it outside of your own viewpoint.

This discussion is over.

That isn't accurate i'm afraid. There are consequences in Origins for hardening Leliana and Alistair, only not for Inquisition which is checked via the Keep. Or at least that is my understanding of the situation.

- 10:28, December 3, 2014 (UTC)

I do not respond to those who start edit wars. (grats for getting access to the Inquisition portion of Dragon Age Keep to provide you with evidence!) —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])

My very first conversation with Leliana in Haven was me refusing to let her execute someone she thought was a traitor. Her "hardened" nature seems there from the beginning of the game. ♫ Kelcat ^Talk 11:33, December 3, 2014 (UTC)

I don't really understand why this page can contain information about Origin only. Do I see "Hardened (Origin)" header? No. This page completely looks like a page about "hardening" as opportunity to change someone's personality. There IS hardening/softening option for Leliana in DA: I. And there is a lot of video proofs on Youtube. I can provide some links to confirm this. So why can't we add Inquisition section to that page? Alketal (talk) 13:58, February 10, 2015 (UTC)