The description says that the Fade splits up into fiefs. Is there a reference to this? Thanks. Elvhen Veluthil 10:36, October 3, 2009 (UTC)
Ok thanks Loleil :) Does that mean that spirits and demons inhabits different and separated parts of Fade? Elvhen Veluthil 12:17, October 3, 2009 (UTC)
Hmm I hadn't thought about that, but I think you're probably right. Loleil 00:46, October 4, 2009 (UTC)
On this note I'm rather curious. What would be a 'fief' exactly? When you visit the Fade in Circle Tower, you're presented with a 'map' of about a dozen or so locations, each containing a 'boss' demon. Would each of these individually be called a 'fief', or is this the name of the entire 'map' over which the slumber demon presided? 178.98.45.40 (talk) 03:45, July 14, 2012 (UTC)
Nobody curious about the "ship"-like floating things in the sky of the Fade? They could be other fiefs, as Elvhen Veluthil said, but they look like some kind of ship. Perhaps "dream ships", since people go to the Fade when they dream? LJ Carrion 01:17, November 24, 2009 (UTC)
- From what I can tell, at least one of those is supposed to be the Black City. "No traveler to the Fade can fail to spot the Black City. It is one of the few constants of that ever-changing place. No matter where one might be, the city is visible. (Always far off, for it seems that the only rule of geography in the Fade is that all points are equidistant from the Black City.)" Codex Entry: The Black City
The first rule of the Fade says that none of the dudes killed in the Fade drops loot, which I found not to be the exact truth. When Warden is caught by the Sloth Demon and fight his/her way out of the Fade, there are three places called Nightmares, where companions are stuck. In Oghrim's nightmare two of the "demons" disguised as dwarves dropped some loot. Unfortunately, I can't say what it was (but probably something of little use) and I didn't make any screenshot, but you have my word - two loot drops in the Fade. ;)
It was probably some bug, but still...
- ^ Almost 100% sure it's a bug. It makes sense, because you're not 'actually' there, you're only present with your mind. It would make absolutely no sense for you to be able to take real physical objects out of a dream-world. Mages certainly would be dangerous if all they had to do would be to go to sleep, dream of an armoured tank, get inside and wake up. Then again there are always exceptions, such as the following post. 178.98.45.40 (talk) 03:32, July 14, 2012 (UTC)
In Awakening, Fade creatures drop Ethereal (I think) potions for use in the fade, but that don't return. 86.128.25.237 09:20, March 21, 2010 (UTC) Fosjam
- ^ This basically confirms my theory about items in the Fade. There's no reason that items can't exist in the Fade (such as Ethereal), they simply can't be moved from the Fade to the real world since, basically, they don't exist. They're merely there to help your mind make sense of the confusion of the Fade. In reality, it's not as if you could really walk around in there - it's merely presented that way to us so that we can comprehend what's going on and to make our tasks easier. 178.98.45.40 (talk) 03:32, July 14, 2012 (UTC)
I have had the rage demons that spawn from the fireplaces spawn some loot as well, nothing major though (lyrium potions?)
Has anyone else noticed that the Blackmarsh Undying seems to be right next to the black city?.
based on xen?
I've noticed that the fade is incredibly similar to the borderworld xen from half-life, both are strange universes, with slightly different laws of physics than our universe, both have huge floating rock islands as the only surface, strange native creatures, and swirling nebula in the distance. so, considering that Xen came first, do you guys think that the fade is based on xen? if so, can I add this to the article? --Tristan7grunt (talk) 20:23, February 29, 2012 (UTC)
- I doubt it. AnotherDimension is not something unique to Half-Life. Asherinka (talk) 20:52, February 29, 2012 (UTC)
I know other universes aren't something unique to half-life, but the whole floating rock and nebulae thing is what really got me to think that. --Tristan7grunt (talk) 04:24, March 7, 2012 (UTC)
Death in the Fade
In the Night Terrors, when you ask Keeper Marethari more information about the Somniari, she will tell you that in the Ancient Tevinter, a certain dreamer killed his victims there, implying that it was actually lethal in the real world too. Furthermore, if you kill Feynriel in the Fade, he becomes a tranquil. However it is unclear if that consequence applies only to dreamers or to all the mages in the Fade. 
17:05, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
- This is probably just as likely to be an inconsistency as anything else, but if Hawke has to kill a party member in the fade ie Anders or Merrill, they are not rendered tranquil. ----Isolationistmagi 17:24, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
- I just did that mission, and Merrill turned against me so I killed her. She was then absent from the party until I finished the mission, at which point it was explained that she 'woke up' earlier. I think, what they're saying is that whoever you 'killed' in the Fade, on this occasion, somehow managed to 'wake up' just in time before the final blow actually landed or at some point while they are dying (but not quite dead yet) on the floor. 31.111.44.230 (talk) 23:01, July 13, 2012 (UTC)
Removing Excessive Trivia
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I can add at least two more examples of dream/shadow realms which closely resemble the Fade (Emerald Dream from World of Warcraft, Twilight from Night Watch) and articles from tvtropes (DreamLand/ DarkWorld) offer dozens more. Given that the Fade is not likely based on any of them (both tropes are very old and omnipresent in art), I propose that we remove all specific examples and keep only the references to both tropes.Asherinka (talk) 00:41, July 27, 2013 (UTC)
- it's more important for the individual content pages, of course, but i think the hefty dose of perspective that is tvtropes should be required study material for anyone who thinks they have a juicy item for the Easter Eggs page! sure, not every gamer has a background in mythology or occult matters, but some of the assumptions are truly laughable. Yeti magi (talk) 03:10, July 27, 2013 (UTC)