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Apostate status Edit

Apostates are mages out of supervision of the Chantry, but he's a revered father of the chantry sect, so I think it's debatable to call him an apostate. The Haven Chantry is heretical, but still a Chantry just like Imperial Chantry is. (talk) 20:38, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

An apostate is a mage without any supervision of the templar order, which is implied by Chantry. Henio0 (talk) 07:03, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

Magisters are not apostates and they are not supervised by templars, it's reverse. Eirik is a high ranking priest in this Haven Chantry. I see this situation as in Tevinter magisters in the Imperial chantry, a magister is their divine, the highest priest and supreme leader of their circle of magi. Similarities are there. (talk) 07:39, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
Even if the templars have no real power, they are there, in the Circles, policing. Whilst there are no templars in Haven. It is a cult run by a mage without any Chantry's supervision. He is an apostate. Henio0 (talk) 07:50, August 1, 2013 (UTC)