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Any one else disappointed by the lack of loot or rewards from killing the Arishok? I know you become the Champion, but its not like you get discounts in shops or anything like that for being the Champion. I mean the whole Champion thing is in name only, unlike Spectres in ME2, where you could buy special gear or use that to you advantage. As a Champion nothing really. Its just a title. And you get the Champion Armor...period. Oh well back to my ranting that I was not really happy with the rewards of beating the Arishok. I dueled him and it was a very frustrating fight. And it did not feel like I got much in return after that. Thaner (talk) 02:09, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

I was VERY disappointed in that you couldn't avoid the fight, or fight for the Qun. I didn't want to fight them, but no choice. 65.175.240.153 (talk) 09:29, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

I think you can avoid the fight if you let the Arishok go with Isabella. I just hate it when a party member leaves. I was so disappointed when Bethany was taken away after Act 1, that I did not want any other party members gone.

It's true, you CAN avoid the fight with the Arishok by handing over isabela, if she returns with the big book (if her approval is high enough). After they leave Kirkwall, Varrik mentions though, that she steals the book again and jumps over board 3 days later. Zarathustra01 (talk) 23:37, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Quest picture

General question: not that I dislike the picture of the Arishok holding the relic, but wouldn't it be better to have another picture? The problem I see is that the image reflects only one possible outcome of Demands of the Qun. If Isabela doesn't return with the relic, the outcome is quite different.

Just food for thought. --Siorai (talk) 12:13, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

I'd also prefer a different picture, because it's a potential spoiler for those who don't know about the possible outcomes of this quest, yet. Zarathustra01 (talk) 07:39, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

How will someone who has never done the quest know what the relic looks like? They wouldn't have known it was a possible quest outcome until someone on the talk pages told them - would they? Maybe we should get rid of the text so there don't accidentally see any spoilers? It's a walkthrough, maybe people should think what that implies before they post.

wierd encounter.

After acquiring this quest, I went to the docks at night to check out the underground merchant. When I arrived I hear the sounds of fighting. I discover Aveline, (who wasn't in my party), at the gates of the Qunari compound fighting with City Guardsmen, (not Pretend Guardsmen or any other type of thug).

Qunari confrontation upon entering the Viscount's Keep

Upon entering the Viscount's Keep, my party was attacked by several waves of Qunari before speaking with the Arishok even though I received the Arishok's respect & got the acievement. I'm looking for someone else to confirm this before I remove the sentence in the 'Walkthrough' section regarding avoiding the "waves of Qunari" if you received the (A Worthy Rival) achievement.

It may also be pertinent to note that I chose the diversionary entrance to the Keep rather than going along with Meredith's plan of frontal assault. --76.117.28.130 (talk) 20:48, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

I retract my initial statement. The 'Walkthrough' section leaves out a large fight before entering the Viscount's Throne Room and talking with the Arishok. I have added a sentence about this fight to the Walkthrough. --76.117.28.130 (talk) 21:36, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Death scene of the Arishok

When my warrior killed the Arishok, it showed Hawke use Yusaris (looked like DA:O graphics) to deliver the final blow. I had the Brother's End equipped, so i found it quite odd. Anyone else have this happen to them? Thought it was a wierd (and somewhat awesome) glitch. I love that sword.......(drifts off to thoughts of slaying high dragons...)

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