Naming + conflict template issues

There are significant issues with this page. Even though it narrates correctly the events of Awakening, its title centers around the darkspawn civil war, which is inaccurate considering the large involvement of the Amaranthine in it as well.

Secondly, the conflict template showing the Wardens, the Amaranthine and Vigil's Keep forces allying with the Architect, is also very inaccurate. The only case in which the Architect may work alongside the Warden is at the very end, and that does not involve the forces of the City of Amaranthine or Vigil's Keep. In all other cases, we have 3 sides on this conflict. Something which unfortunately cannot be depicted accurately in the conflict template and causes lots of conflicting information. Viktoria Landers 11:57, October 18, 2013 (UTC)

I agree with you. I tried once to make a collum for 3rd side, but there was no result. Besides are in DA any other threesome wars? (talk) 12:04, October 18, 2013 (UTC)StubbornMageSlayer
I just edited again to make it threesome war, but look and see editions failed. (talk) 12:04, October 18, 2013 (UTC)StubbornMageSlayer
That would require to update the conflict template. Right now it does not support a third side.
As for your other question, the Mage-Templar War has a significant third side, the Andrastian Chantry, which up to what we know for now, it did not side with either the templars or the mages. Viktoria Landers 12:15, October 18, 2013 (UTC)
I'll ask the admintrators. Hope they'll listen to me despite I'm a pain in their asses recently. (talk) 12:18, October 18, 2013 (UTC)StubbornMageSlayer

I've updated the template and the infobox on the page. I was initially going to make it into a row below, but realized it might be a bit confusing due to the way the infobox looks. It's a bit squeezed, but I think it's passable. ··· D-day sig d·day! 03:12, October 21, 2013 (UTC)


As the conflict has now a third side. I'd like to propose its renaming to the neutral title of "Amaranthine conflict". Viktoria Landers 15:01, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

What about "Darkspawn attack on Amarantine" or "Darkspawn activity in Amarantine"? In Fereldan conflicts is "Werewolf attack". FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 17:59, November 22, 2013 (UTC)
My first thought was "Darkspawn Conflict", but that's kind of ambiguous as to where and when it took place. I think your idea of "Amaranthine Conflict" would be ideal. (btw you have on the main page to rename it to Amaranthine chantry ;D) Kelcat (talk) 18:17, November 22, 2013 (UTC)
What about "Darkspawn raid on Amarantine"?FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 18:54, November 22, 2013 (UTC)
Well, for starters, that seems an overly wordy title for an article. I also don't think that "raid" is an appropriate term for this. Looking at this statement in the article:
The Grey Wardens became involved in the war when the Architect sent an emissary to negotiate with the Grey Wardens. Mistrust and misunderstandings led to the massacre of the Orlesian Grey Warden contingent stationed at Vigil's Keep and also the Architect's emissary.
The conflict originated with the Architect wanting to negotiate with the Grey Wardens. That's marked as the beginning of the conflict, and that doesn't fit with "raid". Kelcat (talk) 19:06, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

Different pic

In prologue of DAA is a fresco of the Architect and the Mother. I suggest to use them instead of Architect's image. (talk) 12:43, October 25, 2013 (UTC)StubbornMageSlayer

Commanders and Leaders

Why are Seranni and Velanna listed under "Commanders and Leaders"? Seranni was more like the Architect's lackey/servant, and I don't recall Velanna leading anyone in the conflicts. Kelcat (talk) 19:08, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

Velanna was leading elves, who followed her, ones slaughtered by darkspawn in Wedding Woods.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 19:15, November 22, 2013 (UTC)
Oh, right, I forgot that that was the group who split from the Keeper. Kelcat (talk) 19:33, November 22, 2013 (UTC)
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