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Precious Metals is a side quest in Dragon Age: Origins.

Acquisition

When the Warden enters Dust Town, Rogek will be waiting near Alimar's Emporium with his men. When spoken to, he will proposition the Warden to deliver smuggled lyrium to Godwin in the Senior Mage Quarters of the Circle Tower. He will ask the Warden for 50 as a guarantee and he can be persuaded to lower this to 40 . If the Warden doesn't have the gold Rogek will inform you that you cannot accept the deal and he will leave permanently.

If you have not started Broken Circle yet but plan to side with the templars then you should start this quest first and make the deal with Rogek when you first meet him. However, if you have already sided with the templars in Broken Circle, the only profitable outcome is to engage with him in a fight. If you accept his deal and later tell him the Circle is gone, you will not get back your money - not even if you sell the smuggled lyrium you're given - and he will still attack you.

Walkthrough

Deal with Rogek

Godwins Location — Godwin's locker location

There are four ways of completing the initial meeting with Rogek:

Refuse and walk away. This gives you nothing and Rogek disappears.
Refuse and try to turn Rogek in, causing Rogek and his bodyguards to attack with the reward of experience points and some money. This will result in the quest being inaccessible.
Rogek will ask for 50 , but with high enough Coercion he can be persuaded to make the deal for 40 . The agreed upon price will be removed from the Warden's inventory and the Smuggled Lyrium will be added.
If you have a high leveled thief with 60+ cunning you can steal the smuggled lyrium from Rogek, thus avoiding paying him for the package. However this is not possible in the patched versions of pc.

Make sure you save before entering Dust Town because it may take several attempts to steal the smuggled lyrium. Also, it is recommended that you have Master Stealing and equip any items that improve your thief's cunning, like: Duncan's Sword, Quicksilver Arming Cap, Dusk Ring, The High Regard of House Dace and Silverleaf. If Leliana is used, Marjolaine's Recurve and Seeker's Circle can be used as well.

Deal with Godwin

After receiving the smuggled lyrium, travel to the Circle Tower. If the Broken Circle quest has not been completed, it must be undertaken to meet Rogek's contact, Godwin. In the Senior Mage Quarters there is a closet that can be activated. Godwin is hiding in this closet and will come out to speak with the Warden. If the Broken Circle quest had already been completed, Godwin may be approached and spoken to at any time. If, however, when dealing with the events in the tower, you chose to side with the templars, by the time you come back for this quest Godwin is no longer in the closet, and is nowhere to be found. When you go back to Rogek, a fight will ensue.

Note: When speaking to Godwin, make sure to make the trade first before inquiring about the trade (or persuading/intimidating for the additional 8 ) or you will only be able to end the conversation and Godwin will disappear.

Godwin will offer 50 for the lyrium, but can be persuaded to pay 60 , or even 65 and a Crow Dagger (by selecting the 75 dialogue option) if you pass a very hard coercion check. If he cannot be persuaded, he will offer 53 instead so it is still worth trying to persuade a higher price even without any points in coercion. He will disappear if this offer is not accepted. In addition, Godwin can be blackmailed for an additional 8 when asked why he needs all this lyrium then threatening to report him to the templars. The blackmail option requires two additional successful persuasion checks.

Back to Rogek

After successfully delivering the lyrium, return to Rogek, who will offer a 10 finder's fee. He can be persuaded that the deal was for 30 , and he will reply that he cannot believe he would offer that much. This will result in 25 , or no change at all if you fail the persuasion check. Depending on the Warden's coercion, there may only be the option to try and persuade him it was 20 . You also have the option to intimidate him for 20 - if one doesn't work, try the other. Should the coercion attempt fail, Rogek can be killed and looted of 20 , but there will be no gold on his corpse if the Warden pick-pocketed the 20 earlier.

Rewards

Precious Metals - Dragon Age Keep — The quest choices in *Dragon Age Keep*

This can be one of the most lucrative quests in the base campaign. If the correct choices are made, the Warden's investment can be nearly tripled.

If persuasive enough, one can receive a total of 98 and a Crow Dagger. Subtracting the initial investment of 40 yields a profit of 58 , plus a Crow Dagger.
When selling the lyrium to Godwin you get 100 XP for every possible deal except if you persuade and ask for 60 which gives you no XP.
When you get your finder's fee from Rogek you also get 100 XP.
Pick-pocketing Rogek effectively reduces the initial investment by 20 , yielding a gain of 78 and a Crow Dagger.
Without taking advantage of persuasion, blackmail and pick-pocketing, delivering the lyrium only covers the initial investment. The only gain will be Rogek's 10 finder's fee.
If one pick-pockets Rogek to gain 20 , reducing the cost of the lyrium from Rogek to 20 , sells the lyrium to the Quartermaster for 12 and 50 (which labels the quest as complete but still allows one to sell the lyrium to Godwin), persuades Godwin to pay 65 , blackmails Godwin for 8 , and convinces Rogek to give a 25 finder's fee, one can gain a profit of 91 and 50 and a Crow Dagger.
Alternatively, if the Warden is a Dwarf Noble, they can take advantage of Gorim, as he would buy anything from the Warden for double the price most merchants would pay. This means, if one pick-pockets Rogek to reduce the investment to 20 , sells the lyrium to Gorim for 25 , persuades Godwin to pay 65 and proceeds to blackmail him for an additional 8 , then convinces Rogek to give a 25 finder's fee, the total profit accumulates to 103 and a Crow Dagger.

Bugs

If Entering Jarvia's Hideout is active and the Warden chooses the 15 reward for information about Jarvia and then thanks him for the tip, it makes Rogek walk away and thus renders the quest inaccessible; the only solution is to ask him if he has anything else - instead of thanking him - in which case he will tell you about the quest.
pc Stealing the lyrium from Rogek might not be possible in patched versions of the game.
Sometimes Rogek walks away after accepting his trade offer. You should reload a savegame from before making the deal and try it again.
ps3 Killing Rogek may result in the quest being listed as having failed.
pcxbox360ps3 The quest will immediately fail if the smuggled lyrium is removed from the inventory for any period of time for any reason, including but not limited to:

Selling it to someone other than Godwin, even buying it back in the same shop window
Storing in the Party Storage Chest at Soldier's Peak (requires Warden's Keep DLC) or with Bella or Lloyd at the Redcliffe tavern (storage operates on mechanics similar to buying and selling)
Removing your equipment during the final part of A Test of Faith
Getting imprisoned during Rescue the Queen
Having sex with a prostitute at The Pearl

You might still be able to finish the quest and get all of the gold, but the quest will remain marked as failed. On xbox360ps3, removing the lyrium for any reason immediately removes the dialogue option to sell to Godwin and leaves one's only option to tell Rogek, "I sold your lyrium. I'm not your delivery mule," leading to a fight. It is still possible to blackmail Godwin for 8 .
When successfully blackmailing Godwin and then ending the conversation, the amount of gold shown is just 8 .
If you ask why Godwin needs the lyrium before saying that you met a dwarf who mentioned him, you will not be able to collect any money from Godwin through the trade, only the 8 through blackmail. If this happens, load a previous save and engage in a conversation again.
pc It is possible to sell the lyrium to the Quartermaster in the Circle Tower, which will trigger the quest as completed, but still sell the lyrium to Godwin. This does not work on any other platforms, as you will complete the quest and not have the option of completing the deal with Godwin. You can however still ask why he needed the lyrium and blackmail Godwin for 8 .
When trying to turn Godwin and Rogek in, the dialogue with Godwin gives the option to tell Greagoir about the operation. When talking to Greagoir, however, this option doesn't appear. The quest stays active, and unable to be completed, as Godwin will be gone forever. In the event this happens, the lyrium can be sold to a merchant, but for less than half of what was paid. The quest will update as complete, stating the lyrium delivery was failed.
If the lyrium isn't in your inventory when meeting Godwin, you can still sell it to him and even blackmail him. The quest will end in failure, but it is still possible to collect payment from Rogek.
Godwin may disappear after the conversation is ended, but he will reappear upon reentering the area.

Trivia

If Alistair is in the party, he will be outraged that Godwin is using lyrium to profit from the templars' addiction. His approval rating will not change however, no matter which course the Warden chooses.

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-'''Precious Metals''' is one of the most lucrative quests in ''[[Dragon Age: Origins]]'', in terms of pure currency. [[Rogek]] in [[Dust Town]] is in dire need of help. He needs someone to get his [[lyrium]] to the [[Circle Tower]].
+'''Precious Metals''' is a [[Side quests (Origins)|side quest]] in ''[[Dragon Age: Origins]]''.
 == Acquisition ==
-When [[the Warden]] enters Dust Town, Rogek will be waiting near [[Alimar's Emporium]] with other casteless [[Dwarf|Dwarves]].
+When [[the Warden]] enters [[Dust Town]], [[Rogek]] will be waiting near [[Alimar's Emporium]] with his men. When spoken to, he will proposition the Warden to deliver smuggled [[lyrium]] to Godwin in the [[Senior Mage Quarters]] of the Circle Tower. He will ask the Warden for 50 {{g}} as a guarantee and he can be [[Coercion|persuaded]] to lower this to 40 {{g}}. If the Warden doesn't have the gold Rogek will inform you that you cannot accept the deal and he will leave permanently.
+If you have not started [[Broken Circle]] yet but plan to side with the [[Templar Order|templars]] then you should start this quest first and make the deal with Rogek when you first meet him. However, if you have already sided with the templars in Broken Circle, the only profitable outcome is to engage with him in a fight. If you accept his deal and later tell him the Circle is gone, you will not get back your money - not even if you sell the smuggled lyrium you're given - and he will still attack you.
-{{Note|Make sure you have 50 {{g}} (or 40 {{g}} if you can persuade) before talking to Rogek, otherwise you cannot accept his deal and he will leave forever.}}
-If spoken to, he will proposition the Warden to deliver [[Smuggled Lyrium]] to [[Godwin]] in the [[Senior Mage Quarters]] of the Circle Tower.
-If you have not started [[Broken Circle]] yet but plan to side with the [[Templar Order|templars]] then you should start this quest first and make the deal with Rogek when you first meet him.
-If you have already sided with the [[Templar Order|templars]] in [[Broken Circle]] then you the only outcome where you don't lose money is to reject Rogek's deal and fight him.
-[[File:Godwins Location.jpg|thumb|Godwin's Locker Location]]
 == Walkthrough ==
 === Deal with Rogek ===
+[[File:Godwins Location.jpg|thumb|220px|Godwin's locker location]]
+There are four ways of completing the initial meeting with Rogek:
+* Refuse and walk away. This gives you nothing and Rogek disappears.
-{{Note|Before talking to Rogek it is possible to pick-pocket 20 {{g}} from him.}}
+* Refuse and try to turn Rogek in, causing Rogek and his bodyguards to attack with the reward of experience points and some money. This will result in the quest being inaccessible.
-{{Note|After Patch 1.04, 20 {{g}} cannot be pick-pocketed back from Rogek.}}
+* Rogek will ask for 50 {{g}}, but with high enough Coercion he can be persuaded to make the deal for 40 {{g}}. The agreed upon price will be removed from the Warden's inventory and the [[Smuggled Lyrium]] will be added.
-{{Note|After Patch 1.05, 20 {{g}} can be pick-pocketed back from Rogek. You get the "Item Received" message and receive a random item, but you also get the 20 {{g}}.}}
+* If you have a high leveled thief with 60+ [[Attributes (Origins)#Cunning|cunning]] you can steal the smuggled lyrium from Rogek, thus avoiding paying him for the package. However this is not possible in the patched versions of {{Platforms|PC}}.
+:Make sure you save before entering Dust Town because it may take several attempts to steal the smuggled lyrium. Also, it is recommended that you have Master Stealing and equip any items that improve your thief's cunning, like: [[Duncan's Sword]], [[Quicksilver Arming Cap]], [[Dusk Ring]], [[The High Regard of House Dace]] and [[Silverleaf]]. If Leliana is used, [[Marjolaine's Recurve]] and [[Seeker's Circle]] can be used as well.
-There are four ways of completing the initial meeting with Rogek. You may as well reveal that you are a [[Grey Warden]] which will need to persuade him and requires one point in [[Coercion]]:
-Option 1:
-Refuse and walk away. This gives you nothing and Rogek disappears.
-Option 2: Refuse and try to turn Rogek in. This causes Rogek and his bodyguards to attack. This option gives you experience points and some money. (Note: Killing Rogek forfeits the initial sequence for triggering the beginning of [[Precious Metals]]. You will not have the option to undertake this quest. Additionally, the ensuing conversation with [[Godwin]] is simply that, an interesting banter.)
-{{Note|This is the only profitable outcome if you have already sided with the [[Templar Order|templars]] in [[Broken Circle]] (gaining you XP and whatever you loot off their corpses). Otherwise you accept Rogek's deal and receive the [[Smuggled Lyrium]] but you still pay him the 40 (or 50) {{g}} for it, and then when you talk to him again and tell him the Circle is gone he doesn't believe you and attacks (and you don't get the {{g}} off of his corpse). The Smuggled Lyrium will not sell for anywhere near that much.}}
-Option 3:
-Rogek will ask for 50 {{g}}, but with high enough [[Coercion]] he can be persuaded to make the deal for 40 {{g}}. The agreed upon price will be removed from the Warden's inventory and the smuggled lyrium will be added.
-Option 4:
-You will need a high leveled thief with a 60+ Cunning to steal the smuggled lyrium from Rogek. Which means you pay him nothing.
-Make sure you save before entering Dust Town because it may take several attempts to steal the smuggled lyrium and not the cheap gold. Also, it is recommended that you have the skill Master Stealing and equip any items that improve your thief's cunning like: [[Duncan's Sword]], [[Quicksilver Arming Cap]], [[Dusk Ring]], [[The High Regard of House Dace]] and [[Silverleaf]]. If Leliana is used, [[Marjolaine's Recurve]] and [[Seeker's Circle]] can be used as well.
-{{Bug|DAO|{{platforms|pc}}{{platforms|xbox360}} If the [[Smuggled Lyrium]] is sold or stored in any storage chests, the quest will be marked as failed and the journal will update, stating that you failed to deliver the lyrium. You also get this result if you purchase any sexual activity from [[Sanga]] in [[The Pearl]], since your entire inventory is removed.}}
 === Deal with Godwin ===
-After receiving the smuggled lyrium, travel to the Circle Tower. If the [[Broken Circle]] quest has not been completed, it must be undertaken to meet Rogek's contact, Godwin. In the Senior Mage Quarters there is a closet that can be activated. Godwin is hiding in this closet and will come out to speak with the Warden. If the Broken Circle quest had already been completed, Godwin may be approached and spoken to at any time. If, however, when dealing with the events in the tower, you chose to side with the templars, by the time you come back for this quest Godwin is no longer in the closet, and is nowhere to be found. When you come back to Rogek, a fight will ensue.
+After receiving the smuggled lyrium, travel to the [[Circle Tower]]. If the Broken Circle quest has not been completed, it must be undertaken to meet Rogek's contact, [[Godwin]]. In the [[Senior Mage Quarters]] there is a closet that can be activated. Godwin is hiding in this closet and will come out to speak with the Warden. If the Broken Circle quest had already been completed, Godwin may be approached and spoken to at any time. If, however, when dealing with the events in the tower, you chose to side with the templars, by the time you come back for this quest Godwin is no longer in the closet, and is nowhere to be found. When you go back to Rogek, a fight will ensue.
+{{Note|When speaking to Godwin, make sure to make the trade first before inquiring about the trade (or persuading/intimidating for the additional 8 {{g}}) or you will only be able to end the conversation and Godwin will disappear.}}
-{{Note|Godwin will disappear after the conversation is ended, but he will reappear upon re-entering the area.}}
-Godwin will offer 50 {{g}} for the lyrium, but can be persuaded to pay 60 {{g}}, or even (By selecting the 75{{g}} dialogue option) 65 {{g}}and a [[Crow Dagger]] if you pass a [[Coercion#Difficulty_Score|very hard coercion]] check. If he cannot be persuaded, he will offer 53 {{g}} instead. He will disappear if this offer is not accepted. In addition, Godwin can be blackmailed for an additional 8 {{g}} when asked why he needs all this lyrium then threatening to report him to the templars. The blackmail option requires two additional successful persuasion checks.
+Godwin will offer 50 {{g}} for the lyrium, but can be persuaded to pay 60 {{g}}, or even 65 {{g}} and a [[Crow Dagger]] (by selecting the 75 {{g}} dialogue option) if you pass a very hard coercion check. If he cannot be persuaded, he will offer 53 {{g}} instead so it is still worth trying to persuade a higher price even without any points in coercion. He will disappear if this offer is not accepted. In addition, Godwin can be blackmailed for an additional 8 {{g}} when asked why he needs all this lyrium then threatening to report him to the templars. The blackmail option requires two additional successful persuasion checks.
-{{Bug|DAO|{{Platforms|pc}} If you ask why Godwin needs the lyrium before saying that you met a dwarf who mentioned him, you will not be able to collect ANY money from Godwin through the trade (50{{g}}, 65{{g}}, or 53{{g}}) except for the 8{{g}} through blackmail if you pass persuasion checks. If this happens, load a previous save and engage in conversation again.}}
-{{Note|If Alistair is in the party when you ask what he is using the lyrium for, he has a very strong reaction to the answer (but there is no [[Approval]] change).}}
 === Back to Rogek ===
-After successfully delivering the lyrium, return to Rogek, who will offer a 10 {{g}} finder's fee. He can be told the deal was for 30 {{g}} (Persuade), and he will reply that he cannot believe he would offer that much. This will result in 25 {{g}}, or no change at all if you fail the persuasion check. Depending on the Warden's [[coercion]], there may only be the option to try and persuade him it was 20 {{g}}. You also have the option to intimidate him for 20 {{g}} - if one doesn't work, try the other.
+After successfully delivering the lyrium, return to Rogek, who will offer a 10 {{g}} finder's fee. He can be persuaded that the deal was for 30 {{g}}, and he will reply that he cannot believe he would offer that much. This will result in 25 {{g}}, or no change at all if you fail the persuasion check. Depending on the Warden's coercion, there may only be the option to try and persuade him it was 20 {{g}}. You also have the option to intimidate him for 20 {{g}} - if one doesn't work, try the other. Should the coercion attempt fail, Rogek can be killed and looted of 20 {{g}}, but there will be no gold on his corpse if the Warden pick-pocketed the 20 {{g}} earlier.
-Should the coercion attempt fail, Rogek can be killed and looted of 20 {{g}}, but there will be no gold on his corpse if the Warden pick-pocketed the 20 {{g}} earlier. Which means if you chose option 3 or 4, you can still get experience.
-{{Bug|DAO|platforms|ps3}} If you tried to steal from Rogek a second time and failed (because the second steal has apparently been fixed), his body has no money on it if you kill him. So the only way to get money is for him to hand it to you voluntarily.
-*{{platforms|ps3}} Killing Rogek may result in the quest being listed as having failed.
 == Rewards ==
+[[File:Precious Metals - Dragon Age Keep.png|thumb|320px|The quest choices in ''[[Dragon Age Keep]]'']]
 This can be one of the most lucrative quests in the base campaign. If the correct choices are made, the Warden's investment can be nearly tripled.
-* If persuasive enough, one can receive a total of 98 {{g}} and a [[Crow Dagger]]. Subtracting the initial investment of 40 {{g}} yields a profit of 58 {{g}}, plus the dagger.
+* If persuasive enough, one can receive a total of 98 {{g}} and a Crow Dagger. Subtracting the initial investment of 40 {{g}} yields a profit of 58 {{g}}, plus a Crow Dagger.
 * When selling the lyrium to Godwin you get 100 XP for every possible deal except if you persuade and ask for 60 {{g}} which gives you no XP.
 * When you get your finder's fee from Rogek you also get 100 XP.
 * Pick-pocketing Rogek effectively reduces the initial investment by 20 {{g}}, yielding a gain of 78 {{g}} and a Crow Dagger.
+* Without taking advantage of persuasion, blackmail and pick-pocketing, delivering the lyrium only covers the initial investment. The only gain will be Rogek's 10 {{g}} finder's fee.
-* If one pick-pockets Rogek to gain 20 {{g}}, reduces the cost of the lyrium from Rogek to 40 {{g}}, sells the lyrium to the [[Quartermaster (Circle Tower)]] for 13 {{g}} and 50 {{s}} (which labels the quest as complete but still allows one to sell the lyrium to Godwin), persuades Godwin to pay 65 {{g}}, blackmails Godwin for 8 {{g}}, and convinces Rogek to give a 25 {{g}} finder's fee, one can gain a profit of 91 {{g}} and 50 {{s}} and a Crow Dagger.
+* If one pick-pockets Rogek to gain 20 {{g}}, reducing the cost of the lyrium from Rogek to 20 {{g}}, sells the lyrium to the [[Quartermaster (Circle Tower)|Quartermaster]] for 12 {{g}} and 50 {{s}} (which labels the quest as complete but still allows one to sell the lyrium to Godwin), persuades Godwin to pay 65 {{g}}, blackmails Godwin for 8 {{g}}, and convinces Rogek to give a 25 {{g}} finder's fee, one can gain a profit of 91 {{g}} and 50 {{s}} and a Crow Dagger.
-* Without taking advantage of persuasion, blackmail and pick-pocketing, delivering the lyrium only covers the initial investment. The only gain will be Rogek's 10{{g}} finder's fee.
+* Alternatively, if the Warden is a [[Dwarf Noble Origin|Dwarf Noble]], they can take advantage of [[Gorim]], as he would buy anything from the Warden for double the price most merchants would pay. This means, if one pick-pockets Rogek to reduce the investment to 20 {{g}}, sells the lyrium to Gorim for 25 {{g}}, persuades Godwin to pay 65 {{g}} and proceeds to blackmail him for an additional 8 {{g}}, then convinces Rogek to give a 25 {{g}} finder's fee, the total profit accumulates to 103 {{g}} and a Crow Dagger.
-== Notes ==
+== Bugs ==
+* If [[Entering Jarvia's Hideout]] is active and the Warden chooses the 15 {{g}} reward for information about [[Jarvia]] and then thanks him for the tip, it makes Rogek walk away and thus renders the quest inaccessible; the only solution is to ask him if he has anything else - instead of thanking him - in which case he will tell you about the quest.
-* It is important to note that if [[The Warden]] completed the [[Broken Circle]] quest line and sided with the templars, Godwin is not likely to be available to purchase the lyrium. (However, this is not always true, as long as Godwin was not threatened, intimidated, or otherwise harassed. He may reappear near the closet on subsequent visits.) If this happens, Rogek can be told the circle has disbanded. He assumes the Warden is attempting to defraud him, however, and proceeds to attack. 20 {{g}} will be found on his corpse, regardless of what he was paid. If the Warden sided with the templars ''before'' receiving this quest, the only way to profit is to threaten to turn Rogek in for smuggling and loot the 20 {{G}} from his corpse after he attacks.
+* {{Platforms|pc}} Stealing the lyrium from Rogek might not be possible in patched versions of the game.
-* Certain quests strip the Warden's inventory, which will be interpreted as failing to trade the lyrium. While the lyrium is in the Warden's inventory, hiring one of [[The Pearl]]'s "workers", removing equipment for the final stage of The Gauntlet, and being incarcerated while rescuing Anora should be avoided.
+* Sometimes Rogek walks away after accepting his trade offer. You should reload a savegame from before making the deal and try it again.
-* Selling the smuggled lyrium to a merchant or placing it in the party chest at ''[[Warden's Keep]]'' will result in failing the quest.
+* {{Platforms|ps3}} Killing Rogek may result in the quest being listed as having failed.
-* It is possible to sell the lyrium to [[Quartermaster (Circle Tower)|Quartermaster]] in the Mage's tower, which will trigger the quest as completed, but still sell the lyrium to Godwin. (PC 1.04)
+* {{Platforms|pc|xbox360|ps3}} The quest will immediately fail if the smuggled lyrium is removed from the inventory for any period of time for any reason, including but not limited to:
-* There are a variety of results for this quest, which depend on specific dialog choices. In order to receive the most gold, '''and''' turn Godwin in to the templars, the lyrium must be sold first. Once Godwin is threatened, he may be turned in '''or''' he may be dealt with, but not both.
+:*Selling it to someone other than Godwin, even buying it back in the same shop window
-* Trying to turn Godwin and Rogek in, the dialog with Godwin gives the option to tell [[Greagoir]] about the operation. When talking to [[Greagoir]], however, this option doesn't appear. The quest stays active, and unable to be completed, as Godwin will be gone forever. In the event this happens, the lyrium can be sold to a merchant, but for less than half of what was paid. The quest will update as complete, stating the lyrium delivery was failed.
+:*Storing in the Party Storage Chest at Soldier's Peak (requires ''[[Warden's Keep]]'' DLC) or with Bella or Lloyd at the Redcliffe tavern (storage operates on mechanics similar to buying and selling)
-* If the lyrium isn't in your inventory when meeting Godwin, you can still sell to him, and even blackmail him. The quest will end in failure, but it is still possible to continue to collect payment from Rogek. If placed in storage, the smuggled lyrium can still be sold.
+:*Removing your equipment during the final part of [[A Test of Faith]]
-* When coercing out the blackmail money when you end the conversation the amount of gold shown is just 8 {{g}} for the blackmail.
+:*Getting [[Captured!|imprisoned]] during [[Rescue the Queen]]
-* Sometimes Rogek walks away after accepting his trade offer. You should reload your savegame made before doing the deal and try it again.
+:*Having sex with a prostitute at [[The Pearl]]
+*You might still be able to finish the quest and get all of the gold, but the quest will remain marked as failed.  On {{Platforms|xbox360|ps3}}, removing the lyrium for any reason immediately removes the dialogue option to sell to Godwin and leaves one's only option to tell Rogek, "I sold your lyrium. I'm not your delivery mule," leading to a fight.  It is still possible to blackmail Godwin for 8 {{g}}.
+* When successfully blackmailing Godwin and then ending the conversation, the amount of gold shown is just 8 {{g}}.
+* If you ask why Godwin needs the lyrium before saying that you met a dwarf who mentioned him, you will not be able to collect any money from Godwin through the trade, only the 8 {{g}} through blackmail. If this happens, load a previous save and engage in a conversation again.
+* {{Platforms|PC}} It is possible to sell the lyrium to the Quartermaster in the Circle Tower, which will trigger the quest as completed, but still sell the lyrium to Godwin. This does not work on any other platforms, as you will complete the quest and not have the option of completing the deal with Godwin. You can however still ask why he needed the lyrium and blackmail Godwin for 8 {{g}}.
+* When trying to turn Godwin and Rogek in, the dialogue with Godwin gives the option to tell [[Greagoir]] about the operation. When talking to Greagoir, however, this option doesn't appear. The quest stays active, and unable to be completed, as Godwin will be gone forever. In the event this happens, the lyrium can be sold to a merchant, but for less than half of what was paid. The quest will update as complete, stating the lyrium delivery was failed.
+* If the lyrium isn't in your inventory when meeting Godwin, you can still sell it to him and even blackmail him. The quest will end in failure, but it is still possible to collect payment from Rogek.
+* Godwin may disappear after the conversation is ended, but he will reappear upon reentering the area.
 == Trivia ==
-* If [[Alistair]] is in the party, he will be outraged that [[Godwin]] is using lyrium to profit from the templars' addiction. His approval rating will not change however, no matter which course the Warden chooses.
+* If [[Alistair]] is in the party, he will be outraged that Godwin is using lyrium to profit from the templars' addiction. His approval rating will not change however, no matter which course the Warden chooses.
 [[Category:Dragon Age: Origins side quests]]
 [[Category:Orzammar side quests]]