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Oghren's Old Flame is Oghren's companion quest in Dragon Age: Origins.

Acquisition[]

Oghren will automatically talk to the Warden about Felsi, if his approval rating is above 30.

Oghren says he wants to talk to you.

  • If you say that you don't have time for this then Ico DisAppr Heart Oghren disapproves (-1).

Oghren says “You know how sometimes, you spend time with … people, and things … Hm.”

  • If you tell Oghren that you don’t have time for this then Ico Appr Heart Oghren approves (+3).
  • If you tell Oghren that you love him too then Ico DisAppr Heart Oghren disapproves (-5).
  • If you tell Oghren to spit it out then Oghren Ico DisAppr Heart Oghren disapproves (-1).

Oghren says that he knows someone on the surface – a girl he knew in Orzammar.

  • If you tell Oghren that he shouldn’t rush into something so soon then Ico DisAppr Heart Oghren disapproves (-1).
  • If you ask Oghren if he thinks she wants to see him then Ico DisAppr Heart Oghren disapproves (-1).

Oghren says her name is Felsi and they were “friends” after Branka left. He says he’s sure she’s forgiven him and wants to track her down.

  • If you ask Oghren what he means by "friends" and then say “You can stop now” then Ico DisAppr Heart Oghren disapproves (-1).
  • If you call Oghren a dog then Ico Appr Heart Oghren approves (+2).
  • If you ask Oghren if he cheated on Branka, or called him a dog, and then say that you might have time to find Felsi for him, then Ico Appr Heart Oghren approves (+4).
  • If you ask Oghren if he cheated on Branka, or called him a dog, and then say that there’s no time for this, then Ico DisAppr Heart Oghren disapproves (-5).

Oghren says Felsi is at the Lake Calenhad Inn, and that he keeps thinking about her.

  • If you tell Oghren that you can go there then Ico DisAppr Heart Oghren disapproves (-4).
  • If you tell Oghren to forget it then Oghren Ico DisAppr Heart Oghren disapproves (-11).
  • If you tell Oghren that there’s something he’s not telling you:
    • If you apologize to Oghren then Ico Appr Heart Oghren approves (+4).
    • If you can Persuade then you may be able to convince Oghren that you and he were friends.
    • If you can Intimidate then you may be able to tell Oghren to tell you. Ico DisAppr Heart Oghren disapproves (-3)
      • If you were able to Persuade or Intimidate Oghren then he says that he and Felsi didn’t leave things on the best of terms.
        • Tell Oghren that you don't need to get into this.
        • Otherwise no matter what you say, Oghren says that Felsi left him because she was jealous of Branka.
          • Tell Oghren that you'll hear Felsi's version of this.
          • Otherwise no matter what you say then Ico DisAppr Heart Oghren disapproves (-3).

Respond to Oghren:

  • If you tell Oghren that you’ll find Felsi then Ico Appr Heart Oghren approves (+4).
  • If you tell Oghren that you’ll look for Felsi if you have the time then Ico Appr Heart Oghren approves (+4).
  • If you tell Oghren that you can go to Lake Cleanbad -er- Calenhad then Ico Appr Heart Oghren approves (+4).
  • If you tell Oghren that you don’t have time for this then Ico DisAppr Heart Oghren disapproves (-11).

No matter what you say, you will begin the quest.

Alternatively, speak to Felsi in the Spoiled Princess after finishing A Paragon of Her Kind (not recommended if you want them to end up together).

Walkthrough[]

Travel to The Spoiled Princess at Lake Calenhad Docks with Oghren in the party.

Optional : You can talk to Felsi first without Oghren there to find out what she thinks of Oghren, but if you mention this to Oghren, he will take an approval hit. However, if you can pass a persuasion check, Oghren will tell you more about how he and Felsi broke up in the first place.

Note: Talking with Felsi without Oghren in the party will make it seem like she finds him disgusting and pathetic and will possibly end the quest there. BUT if Oghren is with you and you help respark her interest in him through his conversation, it is revealed that the insults and disgust shown between them is actually "their thing" and how they show affection for each other.

You can either help him with hints or by talking him up, or sabotage his efforts with insults. Then talk to Oghren, who will talk to her. Ultimately, anything that makes him seem better (even unbelievably so) will make her want him. "Insults" (even though most are accurate), on the other hand will keep them apart, as does telling them you have to go.

Any of the following will result in Felsi telling Oghren to come back and see her sometime:

  • Tell her Oghren took on an army of golems, then tell Oghren to tell her it's fate, then tell Oghren to tell her he's been thinking of her.
  • Tell her Oghren took on an army of golems, then tell Oghren to tell her it's fate, ask Felsi if she hasn't missed Oghren, then say anything besides telling Oghren that you have to go.
  • Just watch the conversation, then tell Oghren to tell her it's fate, then tell Oghren to tell her he's been thinking of her, then say anything besides telling Oghren that you have to go.
Note: Some of these may involve lying to Felsi; a high coercion may be necessary.

Results[]

Following one of the aforementioned conversation choices you receive 250 XP. Any other conversation choice results in no XP.

If you talk to Oghren after and Felsi didn't tell him to come back sometime and you tell him "Not very surprising" then Ico DisAppr Heart Oghren disapproves (-3). Otherwise there is no approval change.

Epilogue[]

Depending on what happens when talking with Felsi and your treatment of Oghren afterwards the epilogue will change for him.

  • If Oghren is successful with Felsi he will find her again and marry and have a child with her (which he names after the Warden). He will also become a dwarven general in the human armies.
  • If Oghren fails at his attempt but is cheered up by the Warden later on he becomes the first dwarven general in the human armies, attributing it to "the best friend he ever had".
  • If Oghren fails at his attempts and is treated badly by the Warden afterwards, he will become a drunkard and a public menace.

Trivia[]

  • According to Felsi, Oghren attended her father's funeral where he became drunk, took off his pants and challenged the roast dinner to wrestle, ultimately losing to it in an arm lock.
  • This quest was written by Mary Kirby and was intentionally small since much of Oghren's personal story was told in A Paragon of Her Kind.[1]

Bugs[]

  • If you tell Oghren to "Go get her" after leaving the inn, you end up in the middle of Lake Calenhad. Although you are free to roam around, you will be unable to return to shore. To get out head towards the docks and talk to Carroll.
  • If you walk toward the rocks at the edge of the lake at a certain angle, the selected character will end up at the bottom of the lake. This can be repeated with each party member, but it's not possible to talk to Carroll from there to get out. On the second slope/crease from Carroll (just before the rock formation, if you look up) you can 'climb' the slope. If your character falls from the slope back towards the bottom of the lake, just try to climb again moving at the right angle. Once you've gotten back to the shore you'll find yourself stuck again. Use the mouse to target your character anywhere on the island and the character should move. Afterwards, talk to Carroll; your party will spawn behind you.
  • You can enter the Spoiled Princess again and talk to Felsi - this will start with Oghren talking to her in continuation to the Warden's "Go get her".
  • ps3PS3If Shale is in your party (and Oghren is absent) the conversation between Felsi and Oghren will take place between Felsi and Shale. Oghren's voice will be heard, but all camera cuts will focus on Shale.

References[]

  1. BSN Mary Kirby (January 11, 2010). "Writers of Dragon Age" . The BioWare Forum.
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