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DAO sovereign

This page provides a guide on the best ways to make money in Dragon Age: Origins. Money can be earned by completing quests, selling items, stealing, or looting fallen enemies and containers. You are occasionally given the chance to ask for monetary rewards above the 'normal' quest reward, and at times the success of such attempts depends on your coercion skill. Money is used for purchasing items, making donations and bribes, and improving the strength of an allied army for the final battle.

You will be able to accumulate at least 350DAO goldpiece trans prior to the Landsmeet, if you've collected all the loot items and sold everything to merchants without donating anything. This amount is enough to buy 3 or more of your dream items from any merchant. It is also possible to accumulate over 1,000DAO goldpiece trans prior to the Landsmeet without making any Potent Lyrium Potions. This requires you to do all the available quests (including downloadable content), pass all the money-related coercion dialogues, steal from all out-of-combat NPCs and in-combat enemies, and sell all items to merchants, except for the items of your four party characters. If you don't want to worry about money and the tasks required for money, you can spend time producing Potent Lyrium Potions.

Basic Mechanics

A sovereign is a gold piece, or 1DAO goldpiece trans (i.e. 5 sovereigns is 5DAO goldpiece trans). Two other types of smaller denominations are used, silver (DAO silverpiece trans) and copper (DAO bronzepiece trans).

Exchange

  • 100DAO bronzepiece trans = 1DAO silverpiece trans
  • 100DAO silverpiece trans = 1DAO goldpiece trans
Note: This conversion of currency happens automatically.

General Notes

  • One of the best sources of money is selling loot. Bear in mind that every time you choose to avoid a battle, you give up the ability to loot the defeated enemies. If that makes you feel better about your character though, you may consider it a good trade-off.
  • The Dwarf Noble Origin yields a special markup rate for selling items to Gorim in the Denerim market district. Income doubles for all looted, stolen, given, or crafted items. Assuming that the sale of items makes up for at least 2/3 of the total income (a very conservative estimate), the Dwarf Noble will have approximately 67% more money than any other origin at the same point in the game. They can also earn 95+ gold by the time Lothering is completed (see The Spellward).
  • Every time there's a dialogue option to ask for money, go for it. There's not one option in-game where you get more money by not asking. Worst case scenario is you will get turned down and/or receive negative approval from an NPC, but these decisions will not have any long-term effects toward your ending.
  • You will not miss any important plot points for being cheap, so feel free to refuse offering money to people.

Redcliffe Crystal Glitch

This is a very fast and profitable glitch that can be done immediately after Lothering. After Hearing about how to help Redcliffe, convince the blacksmith to continue working. Then go to the bar. Make the bartender join the fight without killing him. He will put the girl in charge of the bar. She will sell everything for free, but will not restock. However, if you "buy" her whole inventory, leave the bar and return, she will restock the crystals. After doing this several times, sell them to the blacksmith. The higher level you are, the higher tier the crystals will be.

She no longer sells the crystals in the PC version.

Also doesn't seem to work on Xbox 360.

EDIT: This isn't actually the sole case. If you talk to the militia who are drinking in the tavern, you'll see a mini-cut scene showing them complaining that Lloyd is making them pay for their ale. Once you've seen/heard this conversation between them, you can then threaten Lloyd into making you co-owner, therefore making it so you can get a small profit every so often (from 20 silver and upwards), but also free items which once again - restock every exit/ entrance. Thus, this makes it easier to get the Helm of the Red during the Redcliffe assault as well as allowing you to take the crystal glitch. - Xbox 360

Potent Lyrium Potion Crafting

Making Potent Lyrium Potions is one of the most profitable activities in the game. For every 99 potions crafted, a profit of 21DAO goldpiece trans 68DAO silverpiece trans 10DAO bronzepiece trans is made. If you're a Dwarf Noble, profit leaps to 145DAO goldpiece trans 43DAO silverpiece trans 10DAO bronzepiece trans.

Note: Dwarf Nobles can also make and sell Lyrium Potions resulting in a profit of 5DAO goldpiece trans 84DAO silverpiece trans 10DAO bronzepiece trans per 99, and Greater Lyrium Potions for a profit of 31DAO goldpiece trans 97DAO silverpiece trans 70DAO bronzepiece trans per 99.

The potent lyrium potion recipe can only be purchased from the tranquil at Wonders of Thedas in Denerim for 11DAO goldpiece trans 17DAO silverpiece trans 50DAO bronzepiece trans. It's useless until someone has a master herbalist in the party.

Ideally, you'll require exactly 113DAO goldpiece trans 24DAO silverpiece trans 4DAO bronzepiece trans to start up operations, which is the cost needed for the recipe and all ingredients for a full stack of 99 potent lyrium potions. You're also going to need ten free slots in inventory, nine for the ingredients and one for the potions.

Cost Qty Total Vendor
Lyrium Dust 2DAO silverpiece trans40DAO bronzepiece trans 4 9DAO silverpiece trans60DAO bronzepiece trans Circle Tower Quartermaster
Concentrator Agent 33DAO silverpiece trans 2 66DAO silverpiece trans Gnawed Noble Bartender
Distillation Agent 13DAO silverpiece trans20DAO bronzepiece trans 2 26DAO silverpiece trans40DAO bronzepiece trans Gnawed Noble Bartender
Flask 1DAO silverpiece trans10DAO bronzepiece trans 1 1DAO silverpiece trans10DAO bronzepiece trans Gnawed Noble Bartender

The table above details what is needed for one potent lyrium potion and the ideal places to get each ingredient. Note that Figor, whose shop is off of the Orzammar Commons, will sell you flasks for 1DAO silverpiece trans, but requires more additional travel.

The total cost for the ingredients to make a single potion comes to 1DAO goldpiece trans 3DAO silverpiece trans 10DAO bronzepiece trans. Its value is 5DAO goldpiece trans, which means that any vendor will buy it for 1DAO goldpiece trans25DAO silverpiece trans, giving a profit of 21DAO silverpiece trans90DAO bronzepiece trans. This is a rate of return of 21%.

A stack of 99 potions costs 102DAO goldpiece trans 6DAO silverpiece trans 90DAO bronzepiece trans for required materials, and the revenue is 123DAO goldpiece trans75DAO silverpiece trans, leaving a profit of 21DAO goldpiece trans 68DAO silverpiece trans 10DAO bronzepiece trans. If that money is then poured into ingredients, another 120 more potions can be made, and so on.

On the twelfth trip, you'll break 1000DAO goldpiece trans by following this example, and will be crafting 813 potions. That requires 33 slots just for the lyrium dust, plus four more empty slots for one stack each of the bartender's ingredients, plus a slot for your new potions. So do what you can to free up inventory before getting into this.

As Lyrium dust is the only thing you need outside the Gnawed Noble tavern (Denerim market district), it is faster to buy lots of dust from the Circle Tower for 2DAO goldpiece trans37DAO silverpiece trans60DAO bronzepiece trans, and make the potions in the Gnawed Noble, selling potions to buy the agents as you go, to reduce travel time back and forth.

Bug icon Bug! Selling too many of the same item to the one merchant may corrupt your savegame. The bug appears to happen when a vendor gets overloaded with 549 or more stacks of items. For equipment like weapons, armor, runes and jewellery, each item counts as 1 stack towards this limit. For crafting materials, potions, arrows, etc, stacks of 99 count as 1 stack towards the limit[1]. This bug has been fixed in patch 1.04.

Note that it is tedious at best when making 500+ potions as the game requires one click per potion, for PC users there is a simple workaround in macro scripting programs such as Autohotkey, tutorials are not covered in this wiki but here is a sample script:

$F12::
Loop 598
{
  Click 1163, 815
}

Also, when playing on the Xbox, purchasing mass amounts of potions is sped up when holding right on the thumbstick, AND right on the D-Pad. Some Mathematics to help you starting your trade: be M your current money in DAO goldpiece trans, N the number of potions you can craft (integer), P the profit for selling N. For every N, one needs to pay 1.1N+13.2*2N+33*2N+2.4*4N, that is 103.1NDAO silverpiece trans or 1.031NDAO goldpiece trans. If M=1.031N, then you can craft N=M/1.031 (rounded to the inferior) potions for P=0.219N in DAO goldpiece trans with N flasks, 2N Distillation & Concentrator Agent, and 4N Lyrium Dust.

Profitable Quests

  • Rescue the Queen: During the prison break, earn 80-90DAO goldpiece trans depending on your Coercion skill and 2 votes at the Landsmeet by asking for their money. A highly skilled lock picker is required to maximize gold accumulation.
  • Precious Metals: For an upfront investment of 40DAO goldpiece transyou can earn up to 98DAO goldpiece transin revenue (58DAO goldpiece trans profit) with high persuasion (or a minimum 20DAO goldpiece transif you kill Rogek or steal from him).
  • Asunder: A side quest that takes place in The Deep Roads, beneath the dwarven city of Orzammar. For a reward of 25DAO goldpiece trans 50DAO silverpiece trans, the Warden must allow the Pride Demon to escape, although if you have more than one party member and pause, 3 of them can tell him to give you money and one to have him fight you.
  • Unrest in the Alienage: A highly skilled lock picker can acquire 22DAO goldpiece trans in a chest in the last room of the Run-down Apartment in The Alienage.
  • A Lord's Trust: The First Task: Earn 10DAO goldpiece trans (or 15DAO goldpiece trans with high persuasion) during the optional subquest to return the love letters to fighter Baizyl (requires a Lockpicker). The quest requires you to at least temporarily side with Lord Harrowmont and is a subquest of A Paragon of Her Kind.
  • Lost to the Memories: An Orzammar side quest which rewards 5DAO goldpiece trans (plus 10DAO goldpiece trans if you later return to Orzammar and speak to Orta)
  • Pearls before Swine: The Warden can earn up to 4DAO goldpiece trans if chosen the correct dialogue options. This is the only quest known that yields you More money by refusing to Persuade. To maximize the profit: first suggest that you are going to kill them, then choose the dialogue option "Hand over all the money", this will yield you 2DAO goldpiece trans before you could complete the quest which will reward you with another 2DAO goldpiece trans.
  • Thief in the House of Learning: Earn 2DAO goldpiece trans30DAO silverpiece trans by selling the book to Jertrin instead of returning it to the Shaperate for no reward.
  • Complete as many Job Board quests as possible. Each of these side quests will yield 1-6DAO goldpiece trans.

Coercion

Maximizing the Warden's Coercion skill gains access to otherwise unavailable persuasion dialogues which often allow stronger negotiating positions with NPCs. Nearly all the notable side quests listed above can benefit directly with high Coercion.

The Strength and Cunning attributes also augment coercion. The strength score minus 10 is your base Intimidation, and your cunning score minus 10 is your base Persuasion. Each rank of Coercion adds 25 to both Intimidation and Persuasion. The highest Persuasion and Intimidation checks are 100, so if you have e.g. a Cunning of 85 for a cunning-based rogue, you will only need one point in Coercion to pass any Persuasion checks, though you will need more for any Intimidation checks. Four points in Coercion negates any need to put points into Strength or Cunning for extra Coercion (though the skill does require 16 Cunning).

Stealing

Stealing will not net you as much money as Lockpicking but you could earn well over 5DAO goldpiece trans by the end of the game simply from Stealing

  • Most of the time, you will get either a Shard or Health Potions
  • Other times, you will get around 2DAO silverpiece trans - 30 DAO silverpiece trans
  • From yellow & orange name NPC, you could get over 2DAO goldpiece trans
  • Profits from stealing will scale with your character level, it's best to steal later from people you know will be sticking around (Lothering for instance will vanish as soon as you finish any of the main Quests).
  • Prior to patch v1.03, it was also possible to set Zevran or Leliana to auto-steal during combat in the tactics screen

Lock Picking

Maximizing a rogue character's lockpicking skill will gain access to locked rooms and containers which may contain money or sellable items. The notable quests above should indicate when a lockpicking character is required for maximum earnings.

Warden's Keep Party Chest

With the Warden's Keep DLC, you can store early to mid-game weapons and armor loot in the party chest rather than selling them immediately.

Items stored in the chest will autolevel along with the character, and can be sold for significantly more as a tier 7 item later in the game. This behavior will work on consoles only, not on PCs. There's also a limit for the number of items allowed to be stored in the chest.

The Weapons page lists the price multipliers for the different tiers - a tier 7 (dragonbone) weapon is worth 18 times more than a tier 1 (iron) version of the same weapon. The "average" weapon tier throughout the game is presumably 4 (Veridium) at price multiplier 9 vs. iron, which still yields twice the cash if you postpone selling it until it has turned to dragonbone.

Not all weapons and armor autolevel: Staves and unique items (like the Aodh or Thorn of the Dead Gods) generally don't; the same goes for most items with "darkspawn" in their name. But it works for generic weapons and armor, and can give a quite significant profit.

Console

If you are on the PC, you can just use the console to give yourself as much money as you want. See the Console (Origins) page for more information.

References

  1. Corrupted / Damage saved games due to the rollover bug
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