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|title = Teyrn of [[Gwaren]]<br> Regent of [[Ferelden]] <br> Hero of [[River Dane]] <br> [[Grey Warden]] <small>(conditional)</small> <br> Senior Warden <small>(conditional)</small>
 
|title = Teyrn of [[Gwaren]]<br> Regent of [[Ferelden]] <br> Hero of [[River Dane]] <br> [[Grey Warden]] <small>(conditional)</small> <br> Senior Warden <small>(conditional)</small>
 
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|family = [[Gareth of Oswin]] <small>(father)</small> <br> Maeve Mac Tir <small>(wife)</small> <br> [[Anora]] <small>(daughter)</small> <br> [[Cailan Theirin]] <small>(son-in-law)</small> <br> [[Kieran]] <small>(son, conditional)</small>
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|family = [[Gareth of Oswin]] <small>(father)</small> <br> Celia Mac Tir <small>(wife)</small> <ref name="dgtweet">{{Twitter|author=David Gaider|url=https://mobile.twitter.com/arielle1120/status/582439296273158144}}</ref><ref>Dialogue with Loghain if recruited in ''[[Dragon Age: Origins]]''.</ref> <br> [[Anora]] <small>(daughter)</small> <br> [[Cailan Theirin]] <small>(son-in-law)</small> <br> [[Kieran]] <small>(son, conditional)</small>
 
|quests = [[Joining the Grey Wardens]] <br> [[After the Joining]] <br> [[The Tower of Ishal (Quest)]] <br> [[The Landsmeet]] <br> [[The Battle of Denerim]] <br> [[Here Lies the Abyss]]
 
|quests = [[Joining the Grey Wardens]] <br> [[After the Joining]] <br> [[The Tower of Ishal (Quest)]] <br> [[The Landsmeet]] <br> [[The Battle of Denerim]] <br> [[Here Lies the Abyss]]
 
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* The name "Mac Tir" means "son of the land." It was given to him by Maric after the [[Battle of River Dane]]<ref>[[Codex entry: Arms of Mac Tir]]</ref>
 
* The name "Mac Tir" means "son of the land." It was given to him by Maric after the [[Battle of River Dane]]<ref>[[Codex entry: Arms of Mac Tir]]</ref>
 
** However this conflicts with ''[[Dragon Age: The Stolen Throne]]'' where he introduces himself mentioning his last name.<ref>''[[Dragon Age: The Stolen Throne]]'', p. 96</ref>
 
** However this conflicts with ''[[Dragon Age: The Stolen Throne]]'' where he introduces himself mentioning his last name.<ref>''[[Dragon Age: The Stolen Throne]]'', p. 96</ref>
* Loghain's wife is named "Maeve" in [[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas Volume 2]], though David Gaider has stated that this is an error.<ref>{{Twitter|author=David Gaider|url=https://mobile.twitter.com/arielle1120/status/582439296273158144}}</ref>
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* Loghain's wife is named "Maeve" in [[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas Volume 2]], though David Gaider has stated that this is an error.<ref name="dgtweet"/>
 
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* Loghain owned a [[mabari]] when he was a child. He named her Adalla, and had her for 10 years before an Orlesian took her to use her for breeding with his hunting dogs. Some time later Loghain was reunited with his dog, when the Orlesian threw the mabari out of a moving wagon. The dog was so weak that it died a week later in Loghain's lap.
 
* Loghain owned a [[mabari]] when he was a child. He named her Adalla, and had her for 10 years before an Orlesian took her to use her for breeding with his hunting dogs. Some time later Loghain was reunited with his dog, when the Orlesian threw the mabari out of a moving wagon. The dog was so weak that it died a week later in Loghain's lap.

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“There is nothing I would not do for my homeland.”


Loghain Mac Tir was born into an occupied Ferelden and with King Maric Theirin drove out the Orlesian Empire more than thirty years before the events of the Fifth Blight.

Loghain was raised to the position of Teyrn of Gwaren for his service to King Maric. To Ferelden, he represents ideals of hard work and independence. After King Maric was lost at sea, Loghain became responsible for defending Ferelden and guiding his naive and inexperienced son-in-law, King Cailan Theirin.

Background

Dragon Age: The Stolen Throne


This section contains spoilers for:
Dragon Age: The Stolen Throne.


Born as a Freeman, Loghain was the son of a farmholder from Oswin in the western Bannorn, Gareth of Oswin. After the Orlesian invasion, the Emperor declared a tribute tax from all of the Fereldan Freemen. Loghain's father refused to pay the tax collectors, and, as a result, was accused of tax evasion and lost the farmhold.

The family resisted, but the Orlesian soldiers bested them, forcing Loghain and his father to watch as they raped and killed Loghain's mother. Gareth was nowhere to be found for the next three days. When he finally returned, he informed his son that he had murdered the Orlesian commander responsible. Unable to stay in Oswin, they lived on the run in the Fereldan wilds, banding together with other desperate Ferelden's to eke out a living however they could.

While living with the outlaws, Loghain met Maric, though he was not initially aware of Maric's royal blood. When the Orlesian forces caught up with them, Gareth charged his son with saving the Prince. Loghain eventually managed to escort Maric to Arl Rendorn Guerrin and later joined the rebel army. He became one of Maric's closest friends, as well as a key military advisor of the rebel cause. His strategies, and his creation of the guerrilla Night Elves, were responsible for many of the rebels' greatest victories.

Loghain Rowan

Loghain and Rowan during the rebellion

Over the course of the rebellion, Loghain fell in love with Rowan Guerrin, who was betrothed to Maric and thus the future queen. After Maric fell in love with Katriel, Rowan and Loghain formed a romantic relationship. Both relationships were short-lived, however; Loghain discovered and revealed to Maric that Katriel was a spy, which resulted in her death. After this, Loghain encouraged Rowan to marry Maric to assist him and guide Ferelden as queen. Afterwards Loghain led the Fereldan forces at the critical Battle of River Dane and was rewarded for his leadership by being made Teyrn of Gwaren.

Despite his encouragement of their relationship, Loghain's own relationship with both Maric and Rowan became strained. After the marriage, he rarely spent time in their company.


Dragon Age: The Calling


This section contains spoilers for:
Dragon Age: The Calling.


In the years after the death of Queen Rowan, Loghain supported King Maric. Duncan observed that Loghain seemed to be the true ruler.

Despite having a beautiful wife and young daughter in Gwaren, Loghain preferred to stay in Denerim, claiming that Maric needed him. Maric commented on this noting that, "We are all running away from something".

Loghain was suspicious of the Grey Wardens, suspecting them of being in league with the Orlesians. After Maric vanished following a meeting with the Wardens and First Enchanter Remille, Loghain deployed the army to search for the missing King while he also spied on the Orlesians in Kinloch Hold as he was certain that they would betray them. Two days after the tower was taken over by Orlesian mages and templars who allied with the Architect, Loghain led an assault on Kinloch Hold through Lake Calenhad.

The attack was successful and Loghain was surprised when he found King Maric in the tower as well. Loghain believed the plot was the doing of the Grey Wardens and felt Maric made a mistake in continuing to trust them. He disapproved when Maric allowed the Wardens to return to Ferelden and re-establish their order there on a permanent basis.


Teyrn of Gwaren

After the end of the war against the Orlesians, King Maric gave Loghain the vacant teyrnir of Gwaren in order to elevate him to nobility. This gift came with some significant drawbacks: Gwaren had suffered under Orlesian rule for years and was in a state of serious disrepair; as no Orlesian governor had wanted to reside in Gwaren due to its remote location, the castle was nearly in ruins. Upon arriving in Gwaren for the first time since its liberation, Loghain took one look at his new home and gave it up for lost, choosing to live inside a tent pitched in the middle of the courtyard while seeing to the harbor's repairs.

After a month, the people of Gwaren sent a representative to speak with Loghain, wondering whether he was going to abandon the keep and the village as had their previous lords. The representative they sent was Maeve, who came from a long line of cabinet-makers and had little tolerance for those who neglected to care for their furniture. Her meeting with Loghain quickly turned into a shouting match; in the end, she reminded him that he wouldn't be teyrn of anything unless his freeholders swore fealty to him, which they wouldn't do if he left Castle Gwaren crumbling and empty. Loghain reluctantly followed her advice, appointing Maeve to supervise the keep's repairs. He asked her to marry him two months later, and she accepted.

In the first years of Maric's reign, Loghain spent most of his time in Denerim while his wife ruled Gwaren. Teyrna Maeve was an incomparable foreman, and the terynir rebuilt itself under her guidance. Due to his long absences, Loghain started taking his young daughter Anora to court with him in 9:10.[3]

King Maric's Disappearance

When King Maric Theirin disappeared at sea while en route to Wycome in 9:25 Dragon, Teyrn Loghain spent almost two years searching for his lost friend, consuming much of the royal treasury and the majority of the Fereldan navy. The search was futile, and when Loghain claimed that Orlais had purposefully sunk King Maric's vessel in order to prevent Marcher unity, he was called off by his daughter, Queen Anora Theirin, and a united Bannorn. It was time to mourn the king, they said, and so, in 9:27, a massive state funeral was held in Denerim's chantry.[4]

King Maric's death and Anora's marriage to King Cailan Theirin put an end to Loghain's visits to Denerim for a time. He returned to his wife in Gwaren, and remained in relative peace and quiet for the next three years. When Teyrna Maeve died in 9:28, the king, the queen and the entire royal court traveled to Castle Gwaren for her funeral. When they left, Loghain left with them for the final time.[3]

Involvement

Dragon Age: Origins


This section contains spoilers for:
Dragon Age: Origins.


Loghain

Loghain

Loghain is first encountered at the fortress of Ostagar; the Warden can meet him at his tent, or at the war council.

As the Teyrn commanding the army, Loghain is responsible for devising the tactics that will be used in the Battle of Ostagar. Loghain's plan utilizes the anvil and hammer strategy; the Grey Wardens are to act as the anvil, drawing the main body of darkspawn, and Loghain's troops will flank the darkspawn once the beacon is lit.

Although Loghain advises him not to fight on the front lines, King Cailan Theirin refuses and insists on accompanying the Wardens. Cailan also insists on having the two newest Grey Wardens, the Warden and Alistair, light the beacon; Loghain and Uldred disagree, but acquiesce to the king's desire in the end. Despite a darkspawn attack on the beacon tower, the Wardens eventually manage to light the beacon; however, on seeing the lit beacon, Loghain orders his troops to retreat, leaving King Cailan and the Grey Wardens to die.

After the battle at Ostagar, he declares the Grey Wardens traitors and places a bounty on their heads. He also declares himself regent for his daughter Queen Anora Theirin. This is not met with approval from the Bannorn, and civil war ensues.

With Arl Rendon Howe as his main advisor, Loghain takes drastic measures to secure Ferelden, such as allowing elves to be sold into slavery, and hiring Zevran Arainai, an Antivan Crow to assassinate the remaining Grey Wardens.

He refuses all Orlesian reinforcements, not believing Celene's intentions are honest. Neither Howe nor Anora can convince him otherwise. Rumours circulate that the reason he abandoned Cailan at Ostagar was that Cailan hoped to cement a union of kingdoms with the Orlesians by putting aside Anora, who was believed to be barren, and marrying the Empress Celene.

At the Landsmeet, Arl Eamon Guerrin and the Warden confront Loghain. If he wins the Landsmeet, Loghain will attempt to arrest the party and Arl Eamon, and a fight will ensue. If the Warden wins the Landsmeet, Loghain will refuse to abide by the Landsmeet's decision and try to stage a coup.

This fight can be avoided with enough support. Whether there is a fight or not, the matter of who will rule Ferelden is still uncertain. To resolve the impasse, a duel must be fought. The Warden can elect to fight this duel, or select another companion.

If anyone besides Alistair duels Loghain, he will yield after losing the duel, allowing the Warden to decide his fate. If this happens, Riordan will suggest he be recruited to the Grey Wardens; the Warden also has the option of personally executing Loghain or allowing Alistair to do it. If Alistair is chosen for the duel, he will kill Loghain after he yields without any other options.

If Loghain is recruited, the Warden can speak to him regarding a number of things, from his feelings about Ostagar to why Alistair was not acknowledged as an heir. Recruiting Loghain causes Alistair to leave the party, without exception.

In a conversation with Zevran, he states that he has lost all his titles, and should be addressed simply as "Loghain."

If asked to consider Morrigan's offer, he will at first express reluctance to participate and request to be the one to sacrifice his life to strike the killing blow against the Archdemon, arguing that it is a form of redemption for his mistakes. He can still however, be persuaded to accept the offer with a high enough coercion skill.

If Loghain survives the battle with the Archdemon: During the Post-Coronation celebrations he'll state that he has come to respect the Warden and reveals that Anora has now tasked him with recruiting new Grey Wardens.


Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening


This section contains spoilers for:
Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening.


In Awakening (if a Warden was imported with Loghain alive at the end), he arrives at Vigil's Keep and states that he has been transferred to the city of Montsimmard to serve with the Orlesian Grey Wardens, by order of the Grey Warden leaders in Weisshaupt.

He hands the Warden-Commander the battleaxe Frenzy, ten sovereigns and a Grey Warden shield banner he found in the Denerim vault before departing. If the Male Human Noble married Queen Anora, he will make a number of related comments, including suggesting plans for an heir.


Dragon Age: Inquisition


This section contains spoilers for:
Dragon Age: Inquisition.


DAILoghain

Warden Loghain

If Loghain lived through the Fifth Blight:

Hawke contacted Loghain to help them investigate Red Lyrium. Loghain however was concerned about corruption in the Grey Warden ranks and went into hiding. Hawke and the Inquisitor rendezvoused with Loghain in a smuggler's cave in Crestwood to see what his investigation uncovered.

Loghain explains that he was investigating if Corypheus could have survived fatal wounds just like an Archdemon can. Yet in the middle of his investigation, every Grey Warden in Orlais began to hear the Calling which Loghain believes is being elicited by Corypheus. Believing that their end is near, Warden-Commander Clarel planned on using a blood magic ritual that would end all Blights before they all perished. Loghain was branded a traitor for protesting Clarel's plan and went into hiding. Loghain, Hawke, and the Inquisitor scouted the ancient Tevinter ritual tower in the Western Approach to investigate a Grey Warden congregation.

At the tower, the party witnessed Grey Warden mages sacrificing their fellow Wardens to summon demons. They are being led by Livius Erimond, a Venatori Magister who convinced Clarel to use their blood magic techniques to raise a demon army to invade the Deep Roads and kill the Old Gods before they wake. The demon binding rituals Erimond taught the Grey Warden mages however has the side effect of enslaving them to Corypheus, who will use them to conquer Thedas. Erimond escapes to Adamant Fortress while the Inquisitor's party confronts the enslaved Wardens of the tower.

Hawke and Loghain joined the Inquisition as they lay siege to Adamant Fortress. They confront Erimond and Clarel about the truth of the demon binding ritual and attempted to sway the Wardens against Erimond. When Erimond summoned Corypheus' dragon to deal with the Inquisition, Clarel had a change of heart and betrayed Erimond. The dragon attacked and a massive battle ensued. After which, the Inquisition pursued Clarel. Clarel inflicted her wrath on Erimond but was killed by the dragon he had summoned. Clarel's last act was casting a spell that subdued the dragon but its crash caused the ground beneath them to crumble, resulting in the party to fall off the ramparts. The Inquisitor used their mark to open a rift to transport the party to the Fade.

The Inquisitor finds some kind of spirit that poses as Divine Justinia V who briefs the Inquisitor that they are in the realm of a Nightmare demon and that the Inquisitor must recover the memories it took from them. As the Inquisitor recovers these memories, they remember how the mortal Divine was bound by Grey Wardens and sacrificed to power an orb- an orb which the Inquisitor picked up and gave them the mark, and how the spirit in the Divine's form was the one who led the Inquisitor out of the Fade after the creation of the Breach. Once Hawke realized that the Grey Wardens had a hand in sacrificing the Divine to further Corypheus' schemes, Hawke becomes incensed and accuses the Grey Wardens of being out of control and need to be checked. Loghain is defensive about the accusation, and argues that the Wardens were most likely mind controlled by Corypheus and that Hawke themselves have caused much chaos by causing the mage rebellion.

The spirit leads the Inquisitor's party to a rift but the Nightmare is preventing their escape. The spirit sacrifices itself to weaken the Nightmare and the Inquisitor's party defeats the Aspect of the Nightmare blocking their escape. The party reaches the rift but either Hawke or Loghain must stay behind to distract the Nightmare for the party to leave. Hawke can sacrifice themselves to atone for freeing Corypheus or Loghain can sacrifice himself to atone for all the harm the Grey Wardens have done.

If Loghain survives he will take command of the surviving Grey Wardens. After deferring judgement of what the Grey Wardens should do next to the Inquisitor, he will travel to Weisshaupt to brief the Grey Wardens of what had transpired.


Strategy

See Loghain Mac Tir (strategy).

Gifts

Loghain is fond of maps; giving these as gifts will significantly boost his approval.


Name Notes Description

Botanist's Map of Thedas
Botanist's Map of Thedas
Unobtainable via normal means
A botanist's map of Thedas, showing where rare plants may be found on the continent.
Ancient Map of the Imperium
Ancient Map of the Imperium
An antique, wine-stained map showing the boundaries of the ancient Tevinter Imperium.
Current Map of Ferelden
Current Map of Ferelden
A clean and fairly up to date map showing the borders of modern Ferelden.
Map of the Anderfels
Map of the Anderfels
A beautiful illustrated map of the Anderfels that includes drawings of strange beasts.
Map of Occupied Ferelden
Map of Occupied Ferelden
An old map showing Ferelden as part of Orlais. Naturally, many such maps were destroyed when the Orlesians were driven out.

Initial statistics

Attributes

Relative attribute weightings on auto-level:

Strength Dexterity Willpower Magic Cunning Constitution
0.95 0.8 0.5 0 0.15 1.6

Specialization

Champion Champion

Talents

Champion War Cry War CryRally RallyMotivate MotivateSuperiority Superiority
Warrior Powerful Powerful PowerfulThreaten ThreatenBravery Bravery
Precise Striking Precise Striking Precise StrikingTaunt TauntDisengage DisengagePerfect Striking Perfect Striking
Weapon and Shield Shield Bash Shield Bash Shield BashShield Pummel Shield PummelOverpower OverpowerAssault Assault
Shield Block Shield Block Shield BlockShield Cover Shield CoverShield Tactics Shield TacticsShield Mastery Shield Mastery
Note: His base strength and dexterity are not high enough to normally learn high-tier Weapon and Shield talents. He will also have Superiority even before he reaches level 16 (marginally possible, if you postpone all side quests until after Landsmeet).

Equipment

Weapons Longsword Longsword
Armor River Dane armor set River Dane armor setLoghain's Shield Loghain's Shield
Accessories Borders Yet to Be Borders Yet to Be

Plot skills

As you befriend Loghain and gain his approval, he will gain the following additional skills:

Name Benefit Requirement
Inspired: Minor Strength Inspired: Minor Strength +1 strength 25% approval
Inspired: Moderate Strength Inspired: Moderate Strength +2 strength 50% approval
Inspired: Major Strength Inspired: Major Strength +4 strength 75% approval
Inspired: Massive Strength Inspired: Massive Strength +6 strength 90% approval
Note: These bonuses are non-cumulative, i.e. the total bonus is +6, not +13.

Quotes

Main article: Loghain Mac Tir/Dialogue
Loghain WOT2

Concept art of Loghain from Dragon Age: The World of Thedas Volume 2

Dragon Age: Origins

  • '"How fortunate Maric did not live to see his son ready to hand Ferelden over to those who enslaved us for a century!"
  • "Your fascination with glory and legends will be your undoing, Cailan. We must attend to reality."
  • "Traitors! Which of you stood against the Orlesian emperor when his troops flattened your fields and raped your wives?"
  • "I underestimated you, Warden. I thought you were like Cailan, a child wanting to play at war. I was wrong. There's a strength in you I've not seen anywhere since Maric died. I yield."
  • (On the Orlesian occupation of Ferelden) "Hate doesn't describe it. I've seen painted, masked lords beat an old farmer to death with riding crops. To this day, I don't know why. Is that hate? I saw good, sensible men fighting armored chevaliers with nothing—no weapons, no armies, not even hope of success—to see the occupation end. Is that hate?"
  • "Please, I have done... so much wrong. Allow me to do one last thing right."

Dialogue

  • Loghain: "So, there is some of Maric in you after all. Good."
  • Alistair: "Forget Maric. This is for Duncan."

Dragon Age: Inquisition

Dialogue

  • Nightmare: Teyrn Loghain Mac Tir, the brilliant commander. Pity the one time you tried to rule, you failed so miserably. You had to be beaten, humiliated, lest you destroy your own country. You even doomed the Wardens by bringing the Inquisitor down on them. You destroy everything you touch.
  • Loghain: Is that all you've got? It's nothing I've not said to myself.

Trivia


This section contains spoilers for:
Dragon Age: Origins.


  • Loghain owned a mabari when he was a child. He named her Adalla, and had her for 10 years before an Orlesian took her to use her for breeding with his hunting dogs. Some time later Loghain was reunited with his dog, when the Orlesian threw the mabari out of a moving wagon. The dog was so weak that it died a week later in Loghain's lap.
  • Loghain does not get along with any of the Warden's companions except for Dog. He seems to like the mabari, and shares stories of his own dog Adalla with him, as well as offers him treats such as cheese and ham.


Gallery

See also

Codex entry: Loghain Mac Tir Codex entry: Loghain Mac Tir

Codex entry: Loghain Mac Tir Codex entry: Loghain Mac Tir

Arms of Mac Tir Arms of Mac Tir

References