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|name = [[Identify Venatori Agent]]
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|appearances = [[Dragon Age: Inquisition]]
  
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|prerequisites = [[Continue Investigation]]<br>If not completed before [[Demands of the Qun (Inquisition)|Demands of the Qun]], and Krem survives, operation sequence fails/disappears
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|josephine_time = 24:00:00
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|josephine_result = 60 Influence
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|leliana_time = 19:12:00
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|leliana_result = 100 Influence<br>{{:Elfsnake Vitaar|style=iconmini}}<br>''The venatori agent is the smuggler''
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|cullen_time = 24:00:00
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|cullen_result = 60 Influence
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'''Identify Venatori Agent''' is a [[war table]] mission in [[Dragon Age: Inquisition]]. It is the final part of a logic grid puzzle in which the player must identify a [[Venatori]] agent from clues uncovered by the advisors.
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'''Identify Venatori Agent''' is a [[war table]] operation in ''[[Dragon Age: Inquisition]]''. It is the final part of a logic grid puzzle in which the player must identify a [[Venatori]] agent from clues uncovered by the advisors.
   
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==Acquisition==
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== Acquisition ==
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This operation will become available to the player at the [[war table]] once [[Continue Investigation]] has been completed.
   
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This operation will become available to the player at the [[war table]] once [[Continue Investigation]] has been completed.
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{{Note|This operation will not appear/be removed from the wartable if the Iron Bull becomes Tal-Vashoth during the quest [[Demands of the Qun (Inquisition)|Demands of the Qun]].}}
   
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==Operation Text==
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== Operation text ==
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{{Blockquote|''An excerpt from a [[Ben-Hassrath]] information report:''
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An excerpt from a [[Ben-Hassrath]] information report:
  
   
 
All information about the Five Belles of Hunter Fell has come back negative. The [[Tal-Vashoth]] is not the bard, the elf is not the [[Mortalitasi]], and the dwarf is not the smuggler.
  
All information about the Five Belles of Hunter Fell has come back negative. The [[Tal-Vashoth]] is not the bard, the elf is not the [[Mortalitasi]], and the dwarf is not the smuggler.
   
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And an addendum:
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''And an addendum:''
   
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We have learned that the [[Fereldan]] is the [[Venatori]] agent, but unless we can link her to a specific background quickly, we will lose this lead. We must remove the target immediately to stop Duke Tythas from falling prey to Venatori interests.
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We have learned that the [[Fereldan]] is the [[Venatori]] agent, but unless we can link her to a specific background quickly, we will lose this lead. We must remove the target immediately to stop Duke Tythas from falling prey to Venatori interests.}}
   
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==Advisor Suggestions==
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== Advisor suggestions ==
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{{Note|The time listed is the time it takes with no [[agents]].}}
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=== [[Josephine Montilyet|Josephine]] - 24:00:00 ===
   
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'''Josephine: '''Have [[Iron Bull]] tell the Ben-Hassrath to eliminate the bard.
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{{Blockquote|Have [[Iron Bull]] tell the Ben-Hassrath to eliminate the bard.}}
   
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=== [[Leliana]] - 19:12:00 ===
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'''Leliana: '''Have Iron Bull tell the Ben-Hassrath to eliminate the smuggler.
  
   
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'''Cullen: '''Have Iron Bull tell the Ben-Hassrath to take down the Mortalitasi.
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{{Blockquote|Have Iron Bull tell the Ben-Hassrath to eliminate the smuggler.}}
   
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=== [[Cullen Rutherford|Cullen]] - 24:00:00 ===
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==Walkthrough==
  
   
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{{Blockquote|Have Iron Bull tell the Ben-Hassrath to take down the Mortalitasi.}}
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== Results ==
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=== Josephine / Cullen ===
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{{Blockquote|''An excerpt from a Ben-Hassrath information report:''
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The target was eliminated, and as expected, all other targets went into hiding immediately. Duke Tythas did not locate our operatives during his search.
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The recent move to expedite movement of Tevinter mercenaries through Hunter Fell suggests that we eliminated the wrong target. Duke Tythas remains subject to Venatori influence. Hunter Fell must be considered a hostile city.
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Per his request, operative "Iron Bull" will receive further intelligence reports to improve efforts in the future.
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}}
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=== Leliana ===
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{{Blockquote|''An excerpt from a Ben-Hassrath information report:''
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The target was eliminated, and as expected, all other targets went into hiding. Duke Tythas did not locate our operatives during his search.
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Information the duke found on the corpse revealed the smuggler's Venatori involvement. Duke Tythas has cut off trade with the Tevinter Imperium and is thoroughly investigating his city. Hunter Fell is no longer subject to Venatori influence.
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Per his request, operative "Iron Bull" will receive further intelligence reports to continue his efforts. Supplies from Seheron have also been dispatched.}}
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== Rewards ==
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=== Josephine ===
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* 60 Influence
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=== Leliana ===
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* 100 Influence
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* {{:Elfsnake Vitaar|style=iconmini}}
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* ''The venatori agent is the smuggler''
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=== Cullen ===
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* 60 Influence
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== Notes ==
 
The operation text gives the player more clues for the logic grid puzzle: the [[Tal-Vashoth]] is not the bard, the elf is not the [[Mortalitasi]], the dwarf is not the smuggler, and the target is the [[Fereldan]] human. The player's goal is to match each race given in [[Investigate Hunter Fell]] with a different background in order to identify the background of the Fereldan human (the [[Venatori]] agent). Each advisor will send the [[Ben-Hassrath]] to assassinate a different target.
 
The operation text gives the player more clues for the logic grid puzzle: the [[Tal-Vashoth]] is not the bard, the elf is not the [[Mortalitasi]], the dwarf is not the smuggler, and the target is the [[Fereldan]] human. The player's goal is to match each race given in [[Investigate Hunter Fell]] with a different background in order to identify the background of the Fereldan human (the [[Venatori]] agent). Each advisor will send the [[Ben-Hassrath]] to assassinate a different target.
   
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From [[Investigate Hunter Fell]] and [[Continue Investigation]], all players should now have the following information, plus additional information based on the advisor sent on each operation:
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After [[Investigate Hunter Fell]] and [[Continue Investigation]], all players should now have the following information, which is available regardless of advisor combinations from the previous operations:
   
 
* The Five Belles of Hunter Fell are an [[Orlesian]] human, a Fereldan human, an elf, a dwarf, and a Tal-Vashoth
 
* The Five Belles of Hunter Fell are an [[Orlesian]] human, a Fereldan human, an elf, a dwarf, and a Tal-Vashoth
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* The Tal-Vashoth is not a mage
 
* The Tal-Vashoth is not a mage
 
* The Tal-Vashoth is not the smuggler
 
* The Tal-Vashoth is not the smuggler
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* The Tal-Vashoth is not the bard
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* The Tal-Vashoth is not the bard
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* The Elf is a mage
  
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* The Orlesian is a mage
  
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* The Elf is not the Mortalitasi
 
 
* The Dwarf is not the smuggler
  
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* The Elf is not the Mortalitasi
   
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This additional lore and logic may be useful:
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This additional information comes from understanding the following ''Dragon Age'' lore:
   
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* A [[Mortalitasi]] is a necromancer mage
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* A [[Mortalitasi]] is a Nevarran 'death mage.'
 
* An [[apostate]] is a type of mage
  
* An [[apostate]] is a type of mage
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* [[Dwarves]] have no magical ability
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* [[Dwarf|Dwarves]] have no magical ability and thus cannot be mages
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* Since the player must kill either the bard, the smuggler, or the Mortalitasi, assume the target must be one of those three
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Since the player must kill either the bard, the smuggler, or the Mortalitasi, assume the target must be one of those three
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The key pieces of information to discover during the investigation are '''the profession of the elf''' and '''the identity of the Mortalitasi''':
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In [[Investigate Hunter Fell]]:
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{{SpoilerDAI|style=short|
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*Josephine determines that the Elf is NOT the smuggler. Based on the information always available, she must be the the apostate.
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*Cullen determines that the apostate is NOT a human. Based on the information always available, she must be the Elf.
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*Leliana, however, does not learn either of these pieces of information. She does however learn that the Bard is NOT Elf or Human.}}
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In [[Continue Investigation]]:
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{{SpoilerDAI|style=short|
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*Josephine determines that the Tal-Vashoth and Orlesian are enemies, due to the Orlesian "binding corpses with magic." This identifies her as a necromancer, at the very least, but considering the puzzle Mortalitasi is the logical conclusion.
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*Cullen determines that the Mortalitasi is "friendly with the Fereldan and the dwarf, and a Circle member in good standing." This means that the Mortalitasi is NOT Fereldan. Based on the information always available, the only option is the Orlesian.
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*Leliana determines that both the Orlesian and the elf are the two mages of the Five Belles. Based on the information always available, apostate is the only 'mage' job available to the Elf, while both are available to the Orlesian. Therefore, the Orlesian is the Mortalitasi.}}
   
 
'''Logic Grid Puzzle Solution:'''
  
'''Logic Grid Puzzle Solution:'''
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* The Tal-Vashoth is the dragon hunter
  
* The Tal-Vashoth is the dragon hunter
   
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The correct solution is to follow Leliana's advice and assassinate the smuggler. Even missing the information to complete the full logic grid (which is possible with a Leliana - non-Leliana advisor combination), identifying the Mortalitasi is sufficient, as the bard is always identifiable by working backwards with the Ben-Hassrath's information. With the smuggler as the only remaining option for the Fereldan human, that is the only option that can lead to a positive outcome.
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The correct solution is to follow Leliana's advice and assassinate the smuggler.}}
  
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==Result==
  
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'''Josephine:''' {{SpoilerDAI|style=short|This is the incorrect target.}}
  
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'''Leliana:''' {{SpoilerDAI|style=short|This is the correct target.}}
  
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'''Cullen:''' {{SpoilerDAI|style=short|This is the incorrect target}}
  
   
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The only way the player's own investigation can be wrong is assuming the Orlesian is an apostate, which would falsely identify the elf as a smuggler and the Fereldan as the Mortalitasi.}}
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'''Rewards:''' If the correct target was chosen, the player receives 100 Influence and the Elfsnake Vitaar. If the incorrect target was chosen, the player receives 60 Influence.
  
   
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==Other==
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== Bugs ==
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* If this operation is started before doing the quest [[Demands of the Qun (Inquisition)|Demands of the Qun]], but the quest is finished while the operation is still in progress, the operation is also removed from the wartable and the advisor working on it will be unavailable for the remaining time.
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[[Category:War table operations]]

Revision as of 18:24, 9 September 2019

Identify Venatori Agent is a war table operation in Dragon Age: Inquisition. It is the final part of a logic grid puzzle in which the player must identify a Venatori agent from clues uncovered by the advisors.

Acquisition

This operation will become available to the player at the war table once Continue Investigation has been completed.

Note: This operation will not appear/be removed from the wartable if the Iron Bull becomes Tal-Vashoth during the quest Demands of the Qun.

Operation text

An excerpt from a Ben-Hassrath information report:

All information about the Five Belles of Hunter Fell has come back negative. The Tal-Vashoth is not the bard, the elf is not the Mortalitasi, and the dwarf is not the smuggler.

And an addendum:

We have learned that the Fereldan is the Venatori agent, but unless we can link her to a specific background quickly, we will lose this lead. We must remove the target immediately to stop Duke Tythas from falling prey to Venatori interests.

Advisor suggestions

Note: The time listed is the time it takes with no agents.

Josephine - 24:00:00

Have Iron Bull tell the Ben-Hassrath to eliminate the bard.

Leliana - 19:12:00

Have Iron Bull tell the Ben-Hassrath to eliminate the smuggler.

Cullen - 24:00:00

Have Iron Bull tell the Ben-Hassrath to take down the Mortalitasi.

Results

Josephine / Cullen

An excerpt from a Ben-Hassrath information report:

The target was eliminated, and as expected, all other targets went into hiding immediately. Duke Tythas did not locate our operatives during his search.

The recent move to expedite movement of Tevinter mercenaries through Hunter Fell suggests that we eliminated the wrong target. Duke Tythas remains subject to Venatori influence. Hunter Fell must be considered a hostile city.

Per his request, operative "Iron Bull" will receive further intelligence reports to improve efforts in the future.

Leliana

An excerpt from a Ben-Hassrath information report:

The target was eliminated, and as expected, all other targets went into hiding. Duke Tythas did not locate our operatives during his search.

Information the duke found on the corpse revealed the smuggler's Venatori involvement. Duke Tythas has cut off trade with the Tevinter Imperium and is thoroughly investigating his city. Hunter Fell is no longer subject to Venatori influence.

Per his request, operative "Iron Bull" will receive further intelligence reports to continue his efforts. Supplies from Seheron have also been dispatched.

Rewards

Josephine

  • 60 Influence

Leliana

Cullen

  • 60 Influence

Notes

The operation text gives the player more clues for the logic grid puzzle: the Tal-Vashoth is not the bard, the elf is not the Mortalitasi, the dwarf is not the smuggler, and the target is the Fereldan human. The player's goal is to match each race given in Investigate Hunter Fell with a different background in order to identify the background of the Fereldan human (the Venatori agent). Each advisor will send the Ben-Hassrath to assassinate a different target.

After Investigate Hunter Fell and Continue Investigation, all players should now have the following information, which is available regardless of advisor combinations from the previous operations:

  • The Five Belles of Hunter Fell are an Orlesian human, a Fereldan human, an elf, a dwarf, and a Tal-Vashoth
  • The Five Belles of Hunter Fell are a Mortalitasi, a dragon hunter, a bard, a smuggler, and an apostate
  • The Venatori agent is the Fereldan human
  • The Tal-Vashoth is not a mage
  • The Tal-Vashoth is not the smuggler
  • The Tal-Vashoth is not the bard
  • The Dwarf is not the smuggler
  • The Elf is not the Mortalitasi

This additional information comes from understanding the following Dragon Age lore:

Since the player must kill either the bard, the smuggler, or the Mortalitasi, assume the target must be one of those three

The key pieces of information to discover during the investigation are the profession of the elf and the identity of the Mortalitasi:

In Investigate Hunter Fell:

This section contains spoilers for:
Dragon Age: Inquisition.

  • Josephine determines that the Elf is NOT the smuggler. Based on the information always available, she must be the the apostate.
  • Cullen determines that the apostate is NOT a human. Based on the information always available, she must be the Elf.
  • Leliana, however, does not learn either of these pieces of information. She does however learn that the Bard is NOT Elf or Human.


In Continue Investigation:

This section contains spoilers for:
Dragon Age: Inquisition.

  • Josephine determines that the Tal-Vashoth and Orlesian are enemies, due to the Orlesian "binding corpses with magic." This identifies her as a necromancer, at the very least, but considering the puzzle Mortalitasi is the logical conclusion.
  • Cullen determines that the Mortalitasi is "friendly with the Fereldan and the dwarf, and a Circle member in good standing." This means that the Mortalitasi is NOT Fereldan. Based on the information always available, the only option is the Orlesian.
  • Leliana determines that both the Orlesian and the elf are the two mages of the Five Belles. Based on the information always available, apostate is the only 'mage' job available to the Elf, while both are available to the Orlesian. Therefore, the Orlesian is the Mortalitasi.


Logic Grid Puzzle Solution:

This section contains spoilers for:
Dragon Age: Inquisition.

  • The Orlesian human is the Mortalitasi
  • The Fereldan human is the smuggler and the Venatori agent
  • The elf is the apostate
  • The dwarf is the bard
  • The Tal-Vashoth is the dragon hunter

The correct solution is to follow Leliana's advice and assassinate the smuggler. Even missing the information to complete the full logic grid (which is possible with a Leliana - non-Leliana advisor combination), identifying the Mortalitasi is sufficient, as the bard is always identifiable by working backwards with the Ben-Hassrath's information. With the smuggler as the only remaining option for the Fereldan human, that is the only option that can lead to a positive outcome.

The only way the player's own investigation can be wrong is assuming the Orlesian is an apostate, which would falsely identify the elf as a smuggler and the Fereldan as the Mortalitasi.


Bugs

  • If this operation is started before doing the quest Demands of the Qun, but the quest is finished while the operation is still in progress, the operation is also removed from the wartable and the advisor working on it will be unavailable for the remaining time.
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