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Alistair. I love Varric, I really do, he is my favorite DA2 character. They both fill that perfect example of a ‘best friend a person could have’ but Alistair got there first, and he’s always there throughout the entire game where as in DA2, you get the feeling that when Hawke and Varric aren’t running around together, they’ll meet up for an occasional drink, but they’re not ALWAYS together. True, circumstances are completely different but Alistair was the first companion you met in the first game, if not for love, I’d say Alistair even if it’s just for nostalgia of when you first popped DAO into your respective system. [[User:Mrs.AlistairTheirin|<font face="Segoe Print"> Mrs.AlistairTheirin</font>]] 15:03, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
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Alistair. I love Varric, I really do, he is my favorite DA2 character. They both fill that perfect example of a ‘best friend a person couldwuss have’ but Alistair got there first, and he’s always there throughout the entire game where as in DA2, you get the feeling that when Hawke and Varric aren’t running around together, they’ll meet up for an occasional drink, but they’re not ALWAYS together. True, circumstances are completely different but Alistair was the first companion you met in the first game, if not for love, I’d say Alistair even if it’s just for nostalgia of when you first popped DAO into your respective system. [[User:Mrs.AlistairTheirin|<font face="Segoe Print"> Mrs.AlistairTheirin</font>]] 15:03, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
   
 
This is a hard choice, as they're both great characters. But I'm going to go with Varric, if only because the previous two posters picked Alistair. :) My Wardens have to groom Alistair for the throne and practically force it on him, while my Hawkes and Varric just sit back sharing a pint at the Hanged Man after killing bad guys all day. [[User:Gruedragon|Gruedragon]] ([[User talk:Gruedragon|talk]]) 15:21, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
This is a hard choice, as they're both great characters. But I'm going to go with Varric, if only because the previous two posters picked Alistair. :) My Wardens have to groom Alistair for the throne and practically force it on him, while my Hawkes and Varric just sit back sharing a pint at the Hanged Man after killing bad guys all day. [[User:Gruedragon|Gruedragon]] ([[User talk:Gruedragon|talk]]) 15:21, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
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I may be one of the only ones who dislikes varric, he's such an annoying cliche I can't even stand having him in the party because of the random remarks he makes. Alistar is a "wuss" as has been noted but not nearly as annoying.[[Special:Contributions/174.45.9.40|174.45.9.40]] ([[User talk:174.45.9.40|talk]]) 17:13, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
 
I may be one of the only ones who dislikes varric, he's such an annoying cliche I can't even stand having him in the party because of the random remarks he makes. Alistar is a "wuss" as has been noted but not nearly as annoying.[[Special:Contributions/174.45.9.40|174.45.9.40]] ([[User talk:174.45.9.40|talk]]) 17:13, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
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:Wuss? He's a tank. Does not compute. [[User:HomelyDrugAddict|HomelyDrugAddict]] ([[User talk:HomelyDrugAddict|talk]]) 06:16, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
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::Not my word, not even the 5th to use it but I do agree that it is more than apt.[[Special:Contributions/174.45.9.40|174.45.9.40]] ([[User talk:174.45.9.40|talk]]) 08:31, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
   
 
That's tough man. I love both of 'em, but I'll go with Alistair. I think Varric is funnier, more badass, and a total bro, but Alistair's like a little brother and I'll always have a big soft spot for people I feel like I'm always lovingly watching out for. [[User:TKismyname|TKismyname]] ([[User talk:TKismyname|talk]]) 17:18, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
 
That's tough man. I love both of 'em, but I'll go with Alistair. I think Varric is funnier, more badass, and a total bro, but Alistair's like a little brother and I'll always have a big soft spot for people I feel like I'm always lovingly watching out for. [[User:TKismyname|TKismyname]] ([[User talk:TKismyname|talk]]) 17:18, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
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Alistair. My first play through, my last play through, and every play in between Alistair is a cornerstone of the party in DA:O. I really do love Varric - an awesome character who I feel it was an injustice to not allow a romance with - but I left the archers out of my DA2 parties when possible. I did take Varric along for Legacy because he was a perfect fit for it. But when it came to a character that I felt would always have your back, that was Aveline. Even though it was possible to flub the relationship so badly that she could oppose you in Act 3, I never managed to do that. {{User:LegionnaireScout/sig}} 11:42, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
 
Alistair. My first play through, my last play through, and every play in between Alistair is a cornerstone of the party in DA:O. I really do love Varric - an awesome character who I feel it was an injustice to not allow a romance with - but I left the archers out of my DA2 parties when possible. I did take Varric along for Legacy because he was a perfect fit for it. But when it came to a character that I felt would always have your back, that was Aveline. Even though it was possible to flub the relationship so badly that she could oppose you in Act 3, I never managed to do that. {{User:LegionnaireScout/sig}} 11:42, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
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Alistair would die for me. Not sure if Varric would intentionally kill an archdemon to save me, but I have to agree, I think I can say that about Aveline. In DA:O, Alistair is my rock, in DA2 Aveline is the silent rock, and Varric is the buddy who gets you out of scrapes. [[User:Xelestial|Xelestial]] ([[User talk:Xelestial|talk]]) 18:14, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
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: Yeah, well, he will die for the Warden - and rob her of her own free choice to sacrifice herself plus leave Ferelden kingless yet again if he was made one. Good job, Your Majesty, really. That's why I never make him a sole king in my play-throughs - or Ferelden is doomed. [[User:Dorquemada|Dorquemada]] ([[User talk:Dorquemada|talk]]) 18:55, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
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::He only does it without her permission because he loves her so much. He also believes that Anora would be a better or just as good leader so when he dies, he is doing it knowing he'd leave Anora on the throne. He admits that he really just wanted Loghain out of the way. But if he survives he actually becomes an excellent leader, as you know. I see where you're coming from, but I believe he is justified. [[User:Xelestial|Xelestial]] ([[User talk:Xelestial|talk]]) 19:03, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
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:::Gonna disagree slightly with both of y'all on this one. Hardened Alistair believes that he is the best one to sit on the throne, but even he will say that considering the battle that lies ahead, Anora is kept as a spare, and he tells her so. She responds along the lines that she would not have been so generous, and proves that, as under certain Daddy-related circumstances, she may argue for Al's head on a stick if she is given the throne. In any event, the differences in these two reactions only cements why Alistair is still the better choice.
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:::He has a backup plan going into the Battle of Denerim that doesn't leave the kingdom floundering again, while she doesn't give a crap as long as she can cement her hold on the throne (it doesn't seem she'd do it for spite, but as a calculated move to prevent any further mutterings about the rightful heir), no matter that Denerim may get burned down and her with it in the next 24 hours. {{User:LegionnaireScout/sig}} 22:01, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
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:::: I don't recall if Loghain is about to chug Bloody Mary a la darkspawn at that moment or he's already initiated, lets presume he's in though - then Anora is left with either three Wardens, or three Wardens - because Alistair has flounced, remember? So, sparing him doesn't add an extra Warden to the Archdemon equation, but adds the serious chance of civil war and random scheming. History is full of cases like this, and all them end ugly. However, she agrees to spare him because she's got enough sense not to piss off ''our'' Warden. Alistair...he's a romantic hero archetype done well, and that's why so many people like him, I suppose. Lad's just in a wrong genre. Anora's, on the contrary, in the right. [[User:Dorquemada|Dorquemada]] ([[User talk:Dorquemada|talk]]) 08:27, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
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:::: P.S.: Eureka! Finally figured a criteria those two can be compared - it's a "Luke Skywalker vs Han Solo" thing. Han...er, Varric all the way then. [[User:Dorquemada|Dorquemada]] ([[User talk:Dorquemada|talk]]) 08:37, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
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I adore both Alistair and Varric, but if I had to chose I want Alistair back. [[User:Zambingo|Zambingo]] ([[User talk:Zambingo|talk]]) 04:54, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
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WHo is the better/cooler/funnier/most interesting/sweeter/etc. companion out of Alistair and Varric? Hmm... For me, there is no doubt. Merrill is! --> [[User:Emil Olai|Emil Olai]] ([[User talk:Emil Olai|talk]]) 06:15, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
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I dont know, I just can't help but absolutely LOVE Alistair! He's such a good guy, and he was there first! No matter how much I love Varric, (and I really do!) I couldn't part with Alistair no matter what lol. I kinda view it as "If they were real people, who would I prefer?" and every time it'd be Alistair. Alistair would stay by you no matter what, and Varric seems like there's always something he's gotta do. --[[User:Tsukahime|Tsukahime]] ([[User talk:Tsukahime|talk]]) 06:59, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

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Forums: Index > Game DiscussionWho's the better companion- Allistar or Varric?
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So now playing through DA2 for the 3rd time and having done so with Origins as well, I was wondering what the rest of you thought about who was the better companion- Alistar or Varric? Personally, I can see where both have their place in their respective roles, but Varric seems like less of a wuss than Alistar ever is! And the plot lines want to make this guy king?! Thoughts??? (ViscountHawke (talk) 13:36, October 6, 2011 (UTC))

Alistair. He grows on me and become one of my trusted companions, can't say the same with Varric. That's just me though. Oh and I like people who are complex, Varric: You get what you see, not that it is a bad thing --NobleHumanRocks (talk) 14:28, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Alistair. I love Varric, I really do, he is my favorite DA2 character. They both fill that perfect example of a ‘best friend a person couldwuss have’ but Alistair got there first, and he’s always there throughout the entire game where as in DA2, you get the feeling that when Hawke and Varric aren’t running around together, they’ll meet up for an occasional drink, but they’re not ALWAYS together. True, circumstances are completely different but Alistair was the first companion you met in the first game, if not for love, I’d say Alistair even if it’s just for nostalgia of when you first popped DAO into your respective system. Mrs.AlistairTheirin 15:03, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

This is a hard choice, as they're both great characters. But I'm going to go with Varric, if only because the previous two posters picked Alistair. :) My Wardens have to groom Alistair for the throne and practically force it on him, while my Hawkes and Varric just sit back sharing a pint at the Hanged Man after killing bad guys all day. Gruedragon (talk) 15:21, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

I'm curious about criteria you want to compare these side by side. They have different roles as far as party combinations go (warrior tank and rogue damage dealer), they're different Bioware's tired old archetypes, they aren't even remotely alike personality-wise. It's so...apples and oranges. Dorquemada (talk) 16:17, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Alistair. I like Varric fine, but Alistair is like a brother to me. Out of any companions, it's always Alistair first. --Ygrain (talk) 20:16, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Chest hair always wins. Yash7 (talk) 20:28, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Well, considering I keep killing Alistair.. "Be a man, for once." Besides. Varric fulfills my comic relief companion role nicely, without the constant whining. Neither of them hold a candle to Oghren, anyway. Spectaculous!

I hate you. Just saying. HomelyDrugAddict (talk) 01:58, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

This has poll written all over it.

Anyway this is a close one. But for me Varric snags it. He kind of reminds me Xander Harris. Which is some what ironic as Alistair was apparently inspired by him. Andy the Black (talk) 22:52, October 6, 2011 (UTC)


VARRIC, without a doubt. He's totally up there in my top five all-time favorite companions in games. Second only to Garrus from ME. Varric, is so awesome, no Champion can live without their trusty Dwarven friend. -- IJordon (talk) 00:44, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

They're both great. But I'd have to go with Alistair, my brother in arms that followed me through Hell and back. Maybe it's because of the lack of a connection I feel to Hawke as opposed to my Warden, but oh well. HomelyDrugAddict (talk) 01:58, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

Varric. He follows through on killing his own brother. Alistair doesn't even want to leave his sister, because she's making mince pie. Seriously, Varric is always there for you, through thick and thin. Do you think he'd yell at you for killing Isolde? Hell, no! Think about it. Alistair yells at you for killing the most annoying person in all of Thedas!!! By the way, I think they are both great, but Alistair has weaknesses that Varric just doesn't have. LVTDUDE (talk) 02:19, October 7, 2011 (UTC)


Corny as it seems but Varric is by my side while Alistair is in my heart

Alistair wins ;-)

smf4297 11:30, October 7, 2011 (UTC)


Honestly, this isn't a tough choice for me. Alistair. Sure, like people say, he's a wuss, but if it wasn't for him my Warden couldn't have been queen! And Varric, in all his sarcastic glory, fills in his role in 2, but Alistair will always be my favorite, for sarcasm and his motto-"swooping is bad".

I may be one of the only ones who dislikes varric, he's such an annoying cliche I can't even stand having him in the party because of the random remarks he makes. Alistar is a "wuss" as has been noted but not nearly as annoying.174.45.9.40 (talk) 17:13, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

Wuss? He's a tank. Does not compute. HomelyDrugAddict (talk) 06:16, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
Not my word, not even the 5th to use it but I do agree that it is more than apt.174.45.9.40 (talk) 08:31, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

That's tough man. I love both of 'em, but I'll go with Alistair. I think Varric is funnier, more badass, and a total bro, but Alistair's like a little brother and I'll always have a big soft spot for people I feel like I'm always lovingly watching out for. TKismyname (talk) 17:18, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

Varric. Easy since I don't like Alistair. I would've loved it if Varric had been a companion for the Warden. I wanted to see his reaction to the events of DA:O, and most of my Wardens would've been able to coax the story about Bianca's name out of him. Kestrella (talk) 17:32, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

Y'know, both. Because for me, Alistair in DA:O is what Varric is in DA2. The almost inseparable member of my party, who I take along despite any class advantages or disadvantages, just because I want to see his reactions (and actions). Yes, they're different, but so are the games. To my Warden, Alistair is the same best friend as Varric to my Hawke - Warden and Hawke are different too, after all. Pretty sure Varric and the Warden and Hawke and Alistair would get along perfectly, but sadly we didn't get to see it.The Ranged Man (talk) 21:20, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

Come on, make a choice. Not choosing is as lame as the person who responds to the question "What's your favorite band?" by saying, "I like all kinds of music, I don't have a favorite." Weak. LVTDUDE (talk) 03:44, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Varric, I have a thing for story tellers. Tommyspa (talk) 03:54, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Varric, without a doubt, I still havent forgiven Alistair for dumping my Dalish elf female warden, sent the bastard to his death against the archdemon for that >:) But Varric is just so awesome in every way, he is best friend material and never leaves your side no matter what stupid crap you do, the same cant be said for Alistair.

What we have hea is a failure to harden. Oh, and sign your posts! (use four of these: ~)+|| Legionnaire Scout -- talk ||+ 11:43, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Alistair. My first play through, my last play through, and every play in between Alistair is a cornerstone of the party in DA:O. I really do love Varric - an awesome character who I feel it was an injustice to not allow a romance with - but I left the archers out of my DA2 parties when possible. I did take Varric along for Legacy because he was a perfect fit for it. But when it came to a character that I felt would always have your back, that was Aveline. Even though it was possible to flub the relationship so badly that she could oppose you in Act 3, I never managed to do that. +|| Legionnaire Scout -- talk ||+ 11:42, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Alistair would die for me. Not sure if Varric would intentionally kill an archdemon to save me, but I have to agree, I think I can say that about Aveline. In DA:O, Alistair is my rock, in DA2 Aveline is the silent rock, and Varric is the buddy who gets you out of scrapes. Xelestial (talk) 18:14, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, well, he will die for the Warden - and rob her of her own free choice to sacrifice herself plus leave Ferelden kingless yet again if he was made one. Good job, Your Majesty, really. That's why I never make him a sole king in my play-throughs - or Ferelden is doomed. Dorquemada (talk) 18:55, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
He only does it without her permission because he loves her so much. He also believes that Anora would be a better or just as good leader so when he dies, he is doing it knowing he'd leave Anora on the throne. He admits that he really just wanted Loghain out of the way. But if he survives he actually becomes an excellent leader, as you know. I see where you're coming from, but I believe he is justified. Xelestial (talk) 19:03, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
Gonna disagree slightly with both of y'all on this one. Hardened Alistair believes that he is the best one to sit on the throne, but even he will say that considering the battle that lies ahead, Anora is kept as a spare, and he tells her so. She responds along the lines that she would not have been so generous, and proves that, as under certain Daddy-related circumstances, she may argue for Al's head on a stick if she is given the throne. In any event, the differences in these two reactions only cements why Alistair is still the better choice.
He has a backup plan going into the Battle of Denerim that doesn't leave the kingdom floundering again, while she doesn't give a crap as long as she can cement her hold on the throne (it doesn't seem she'd do it for spite, but as a calculated move to prevent any further mutterings about the rightful heir), no matter that Denerim may get burned down and her with it in the next 24 hours. +|| Legionnaire Scout -- talk ||+ 22:01, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
I don't recall if Loghain is about to chug Bloody Mary a la darkspawn at that moment or he's already initiated, lets presume he's in though - then Anora is left with either three Wardens, or three Wardens - because Alistair has flounced, remember? So, sparing him doesn't add an extra Warden to the Archdemon equation, but adds the serious chance of civil war and random scheming. History is full of cases like this, and all them end ugly. However, she agrees to spare him because she's got enough sense not to piss off our Warden. Alistair...he's a romantic hero archetype done well, and that's why so many people like him, I suppose. Lad's just in a wrong genre. Anora's, on the contrary, in the right. Dorquemada (talk) 08:27, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
P.S.: Eureka! Finally figured a criteria those two can be compared - it's a "Luke Skywalker vs Han Solo" thing. Han...er, Varric all the way then. Dorquemada (talk) 08:37, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

I adore both Alistair and Varric, but if I had to chose I want Alistair back. Zambingo (talk) 04:54, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

WHo is the better/cooler/funnier/most interesting/sweeter/etc. companion out of Alistair and Varric? Hmm... For me, there is no doubt. Merrill is! --> Emil Olai (talk) 06:15, October 9, 2011 (UTC)


I dont know, I just can't help but absolutely LOVE Alistair! He's such a good guy, and he was there first! No matter how much I love Varric, (and I really do!) I couldn't part with Alistair no matter what lol. I kinda view it as "If they were real people, who would I prefer?" and every time it'd be Alistair. Alistair would stay by you no matter what, and Varric seems like there's always something he's gotta do. --Tsukahime (talk) 06:59, October 9, 2011 (UTC)