Forum:Who's the DAI squademate who's going to be in DA4 ?

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ever since i began playing dragon age. All the way back to DAO i noticed a trend. From each previous games there was a squademate tha joined the next group. : In origin we met ohgren wich joined the awakening crew. In awakening we met both ander and justice wich fused together to form one messed up in the head abomination that joinned the dragon age 2 crew. In DA2 we met varic who got drafted ( some would say forcefully ) into the inquisitor's crew. My hunche is telling me that since the next game will, in all likelyhood happen in tevinter that if the trend continue the next squademate we will "recuperate" will be dorian. So what do you think ? Am i wrong ? Am i right ? DragonInquisitor (talk) 16:57, October 30, 2015 (UTC)

I know a lot of people say it may be Scout Harding who'll join us as our starting archer, possibly as our recruiter to help stop Solas. Dorian I feel will be returning as but as an "adviser" or your leader as he send you to help his faction change the Teveinter Imperium. after all Harding has had a lot of importance to the inquisition, has shown herself to be a skilled archer, has some character to her during Jaws of Hakkon, and was really hyped before DAI.--172.9.184.121 (talk) 17:41, October 30, 2015 (UTC)

Based on pure speculation, there are quite a few characters from prior games who appear to be floating around the Imperium's heartland. These include: Dorian, Fenris, Zevran (in Antiva, but that's not too far away), possibly Tallis (given how unclear her loyalties are). That said, if I had to bet, the two most likely characters who were at least mentioned in Inquisition to become full party members in DA4 are Maevaris Tilani and Scout Harding. Frankly, I'd be shocked if those two weren't squadmates come DA4. Luper567 (talk) 17:42, October 30, 2015 (UTC)

For some strange reason I think Sera will be a party member in DA4. --Elshiro (talk) 18:31, October 30, 2015 (UTC)

Well, it likely will not be Cassandra or Vivienne (Thank the creators), due to the whole "might be the (White) Divine" thing. Blackwall is out, most likely, since he can be dead. The Iron Bull can be struck off for the same reason. Varric has already been a companion twice, so doing it again would be pressing it and he is Viscount of Kirkwall after all. Solas is out. If the pattern holds, Cole, Dorian, and Sera are our only options. If we do go to Tevinter like we're expecting, Dorian is going to be there, but I'm not sure he'd make the best companion given his position as a magister. Sera? In Tevinter? The stuff of nightmares (both her's and everyone else's). So that could happen. The one I'd most like to see is Cole, personally. But there would have to be two or three versions of interaction with him, at least, for every encounter so he's likely out. If the pattern changes, however, the Inquisition character I'd like to see come back as companion most is Dagna. Yes, the little tinkerer dwarf who thought All the thoughts. Don't know why, just sounds fun. But that's as likely as Sandal showing up as a companion.

But honestly, we're probably going to end up with Harding and/or Sera, as much I'd rather get someone else on the team.Eggy the Duck (talk) 22:39, October 30, 2015 (UTC)

Given that we will have a default canon and multiple possibilities for the history up to DA4, the reality is that doors will be open for many companions. I agree tha only a very few of the Inquisitior's companions are realistically possible, those being Sera, Dorian, Cole, and then Blackwall. I think Harding is a sure bet and there will be at least a part-time if not full-time Warden companion, the only question remains which ones will be available through Dragon Age Keep choices (Alistair, Loghain, Blackwall or perhaps even a conscripted Oghren or Sigrun from Awakening?). I expect Krem to be a companion as that makes perfect sense. They make it a habit to promote supporting-cast characters to full companions, which is why I expect Krem is one guarantee. Everyone needs warriors in their party. Morrigan will be there, maybe not as a full-time companions but I expect she will have THE major role to play in DA4.

Personally I am more concerned with what our choices will be as lead character. Origins set a wonderfully but ridiculously high bar for that and nothing will ever match it. I just hope we have race/class choices that have real meaning again as the religious Chantry-background that was Inquisition found me always playing as a human as I just could not see the other races as viable Inquisitors. Shame too, as I probably missed out on some on DAI's Qunari, Elf, and Dwarf uniqueness. I could try another playthrough... but... it... just... would not feel 'right'.--50.100.235.215 (talk) 15:34, October 31, 2015 (UTC)

Well anyone who could be dead is out of the running, so no Blackwall or Bull. So are Cassandra and Vivienne since they could be Divine, and obviously Solas. That leaves Varric, Sera, Dorian, and Cole. Varric was in DA 2, I don't know if the devs will want to feature him again. Plus, he's the Viscount (maybe?). Dorian is in Tevinter so he's a remote possibility, but isn't he a magister now (he was in my ending, I don't know if that's always true)? He'll probably be too busy to go around adventuring with the new PC. Cole might have gone back to the fade, so probably not him either. IMO Sera seems most likely, if they go with any of the Inquisition companions. However, I think they'll probably just use Harding or some other secondary character, rather than go with Sera (or maybe Cole). That would avoid a lot of problems, such as the possibility that Sera might never have been recruited or got kicked out of the Inquisition. Then again, it's possible to never recruit Andres in Awakening and yet he's always a warden so who knows. Silver Warden (talk) 20:18, October 31, 2015 (UTC)

I get the feeling that the DAI companion that will most likely reappear as a companion in DA4 is either Cole or Sera. If I have to choose one or the other, it would be Cole. As a Spirit of Compassion, his thinking and approach with others is less hampered by personal bias than Sera, who is wary of all things magical. How he will appear will probably depend on whether he became more spirit or human, or even whether or not his personal quest was completed. This doesn't mean that I'll rule out Sera's chances of returning as a companion, though. She could be braver towards magic over the course of DAI.

As for the other companions, at least a mention or cameo appearance should suffice (including those that can die). Dorian might appear a supporting character or advisor to the player character because his job as magister means he won't be spending as much time fighting as the player character will do. I also think Divine Victoria might make an appearance at some point, possibly to engage in talks with the Imperial Divine. BigLenny (talk) 2:26, November 1, 2015 (UTC)

I want to see Abelas, personally. Can he potentially be deadified in DAI? If not, it'd give a perspective of non-God ancient elf life. And provide a mage character. --MadCat221 (talk) 14:02, November 1, 2015 (UTC)

It's possible to kill Abelas if you don't side with the elves in the Temple of Mythal. He attempts to destroy the Well rather than let the Inquisitor use it, so Morrigan kills him. Silver Warden (talk) 20:02, November 1, 2015 (UTC)

While I agree with the logic some people have about 'anyone who could be dead is out of the running' the reality is that the DA Keep and DA history thus-far proves otherwise. I doubt very much that would stop Bioware from bringing someone back from possible death. Would not be the first time either, not by a long shot or even an exploding shot. I still think Harding, Krem, and 'a Warden' will be present as companions. I do not, however, think any of the Inquisitor's immediate companions will carry-over to DA4 - unless it is Sera (unlikely) or Blackwall (with his possible death being the only reason he might not be around - but as I said, characters have been brought back before when they should have been deadites). --50.100.235.62 (talk) 16:04, November 1, 2015 (UTC)

I don't think Bioware will pull another Leliana - or at least I hope not. Dead should be dead. However, I will grant that Krem and Blackwall died off screen, so if they survived it would be significantly less cheap than if Bull somehow survived. His body is rotting on the floor of Darvaarad, period (unless he becomes a Tal-Vashoth of course). Silver Warden (talk) 20:02, November 1, 2015 (UTC)

Krem's death was not really that "ofscreen", the party had a good look at it after all. Caspoi (talk) 02:11, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

The Venatori are shown fighting the chargers, but their deaths are never actually seen. Well, not by us anyway. Presumably the Inquisitor and Bull had a pretty good view. Silver Warden (talk) 20:15, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

I suppose my point is that some are assuming their individual playthrough is canon in regards to the idea that dead is dead. The reality is somewhat more complex. Individual choices in a playthrough can and will have different outcomes - that is what Bioware does, always has. It is therefore very possible, indeed probable, that Blackwall lives, Bull & the Charges live, and so on. The DA Keep proves that Bioware wants to ensure choices are reflected in individual results at least as far as they can take them within reason (eg: our missing Hero of Ferelden would not come back, just because there were too many possible outcomes to fit them all into DA:I).--70.27.188.222 (talk) 18:10, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

Actually it's the opposite. The assumption is merely that Bioware will not do anything to invalidate any possible worldstate, rather than just do whatever the hell they want with the story. Technically they could do that, but I happen to think better of them, as do others. It's not about wanting any one particular outcome to always be true. It's about wanting all possible outcomes to be possibly true. For example, Zevran is always dead if the Warden killed him (bugs aside). Likewise, he is always alive if the Warden did not. This is possible because he has a very minor (possible) role in DA 2 and Inquisition. The same thing could not have been done if he was to be a companion or have some other major role. Being a companion in DA 4 is a major role, therefore possibly dead people are out of the question. However, they could still show up in certain minor roles in some worldstates.

If Bioware were to nullify our choices (which reviving dead characters does) than those choices become meaningless. I think it's reasonable to assume that player choices remain valid, rather than think that Bioware will just do whatever they like. That's really pessimistic. In any event, the point of the OP was to discuss the most likely companions for DA 4, not all possible ones. Because if we do that we could literally list ever single minor character from the entire series. I mean, why not bring Iona back? Sure, she took an arrow to the heart thirty minutes into Origins, but plothax can fix that right up. Her daughter, on the other hand, is a valid option. Who knows, maybe she's actually Sera... Silver Warden (talk) 20:15, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

Personally I don't think any of our companions from Inquisition will be companions again in DA4. They all have much more concrete endings than what they had in Origins/Awakening and DA2. I think that's one of the reasons why people always want to get their old companions to reappear in the next game since their epilogues basically end up boiling down to, "Uh, they're doing stuff." and so people want to know what's been going on with their old companions. In Inquisition, all the companions have endings that could make it hard if not impossible to reappear as companions again in DA4. For instance, Blackwall is either traveling all over the place giving hope to people, he's a Grey Warden stationed all the way at Corypheus' old prison, or he just left six months after Corypheus' defeat and turned himself in to the Orlesians. Cassandra is either Divine or she's rebuilding the Seekers. Iron Bull is either going all over the place with the Chargers still doing jobs or he's dead. Cole either goes back to the Fade if he's more Spirit because he says he's needed their most or if he was made more human, he is in a relationship with Maryden and travels with her to help people. Varric is the Viscount of Kirkwall. Sera is either still in a relationship/married to the Inquisitor, still doing stuff as a Red Jenny, or in a relationship with Dagna. Vivienne is either Divine or she the Grand Enchanter for the Circle of Magi and potentially dealing with the Bright Hand. Also while we will most likely see Dorian and/or Maevaris in DA4, they are both Magisters who probably will be too busy forming their Lucerni political group to be able just go around adventuring with whoever our new PC will be. I think the one who will be our companion in DA4 will be Harding. She was there when the Inquisitor decided to recruit people from Tevinter to oppose Solas and we already know her a bit. Plus she became really popular with the fan base. I guess if somebody else becomes a companion, they might be somebody from the multiplayer. 174.19.238.52 (talk) 23:36, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

Someone from the multiplayer? Ugh, I hope not. I'd rather have Howe as a romance option than see any multiplayer stuff cross over into the real game. Silver Warden (talk) 19:36, November 3, 2015 (UTC)

They were roaming around Skyhold, so it may be too late to hope they don't cross over. Warden Mage: Ferris (talk) 22:52, November 3, 2015 (UTC)

My money is on Varric again. Everyone keeps saying how it can't be him because he's the Viscount of Kirkwall, but to me that's an even more compelling reason why he would be. Kirkwall has strong historical ties to Tevinter (and let's be real, that's where the next game is taking place), and it remains a favored hunting ground for Tevinter slavers. Furthermore, you know who else is likely to be in DA4 along with Dorian? Maevaris Tilani, Varric's cousin (by marriage). Plus, the Qunari have renewed their war against Tevinter; Kirkwall has already dealt with a Qunari invasion/occupation, and Varric witnessed it firsthand. Varric also hates being the Viscount already. He could easily claim that he's going to visit Tevinter on a diplomatic mission to lend support against the Qunari and build ties with the new radical reform party, chuck the "provisional" reins back over to Bran, and go have a new adventure with his old friend Dorian and cousin Mae. Furthermore, he's a writer-- you think he'll be able to resist following up on whatever the hell the Inquisitor's going to be doing in Tevinter?

Plus, after all the time they've spent building Bianca, you think they're just going to abandon her? Mechanicaljewel (talk) 19:48, November 4, 2015 (UTC)