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The Guardian was supposed to protect the Urn of Andraste. If he was killed, then no wonder why he did nothing, when the Elder one started the Breach, but if he's alive, then what happened to him? Why did he didn't react on the Breach?Andrzej.lewinski.351 (talk) 17:38, February 4, 2015 (UTC)

The codex says that the ashes disappeared prior to Haven being rebuilt. Since he was "tied to the ashes" the Guardian either left with the ashes or vanished because the ashes were taken away. Silver Warden (talk) 17:41, February 4, 2015 (UTC)

Isn't there a war-table mission that references the guardian? About this whole "uncovering the secrets of Haven" thing. Caspoi (talk) 00:30, February 5, 2015 (UTC)

I'm sure there'll be a follow up in the future installments. I can't rememeber the specifics, but wasn't there some kind of rune or something found that no one could translate, and some leads took them to the north-west of Ferelden. I'm guessing the urn was moved by the cultists and they are currently on this island somewhere, and the guardian may have followed. User signature henioo henioo (da talk page) 00:43, February 5, 2015 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that we won't ever hear anything about him or the Urn. Guys, you need to realize that BioWare writers are building a story spawning for an entire age. They can't do a reference for everything that had a part in the previous games...Turuzzusapatuttu (talk) 22:34, February 5, 2015 (UTC)

I was under the impression that those ruins were very old, and that they showed where the Guardian and cultists were before they found the temple. But you could very well be right. Silver Warden (talk) 04:49, February 5, 2015 (UTC)

Developer oversight. Could be as simple as they forgot. Which altogether would not necessarily be a bad thing, but given how important that specific location is to many of the main story's events, and the amount of 'time spent' there, to have zero reference at all as to what happened is what I would certainly label a mistake. If the Ashes themselves were destroyed in the Breach's opening it'd be understandable why the Guardian would not show up later on, but there was a considerable span of time between when the Warden and possibly Genitivi were there, and when we are supposed to believe the structure was refurbished that is utterly unaccounted for. Anywhoo, that's my two cents. EzzyD (talk) 17:50, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

It's not oversight. The codex states that the Ashes and the villagers vanished before Haven was rebuilt. It simply is never explained where or why. Silver Warden (talk) 23:13, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

In most of my playthroughs, everything near Haven, aside from the warden and his companions (though Sten came damn close and sometimes I did kill Wynne and Leliana), was killed. The Guardian, the cultists (which includes the villagers), Genitivi, the dragons, everything. Vampire Damian (talk) 00:48, February 11, 2015 (UTC)

^This. Seriously, even if you don't defile the Ashes and let Genitivi do his thing, you can still slaughter all the cultists (including Kolgrim), the Guardian, and the dragon. In fact, the dragon has to either die or move away for some reason in order for Haven to get rebuilt. I always kill it, so I'm sure what happens if you let it live. I once got a bugged epilogue from Origins which implied that the dragon wasn't dead. It said something along the lines of pilgrims mysteriously vanishing when they travel to see the Urn.
Could the dragon and the Guardian be connected? It seems unlikely, but by Inquisition they have both either died or vanished. Why was the dragon there anyway? Do dragons like freaky magical places? There's one in the Dragonbone Wastes, and the Queen of the Blackmarsh is/was in a place where the veil is thin. I'd say the ones Inquisition have also all settled in hostile areas, but by then the veil is thin everywhere, thanks to the Breach. Or maybe the Breach itself indirectly allowed dragons to "come back". Maybe they need places where the veil is thin to nest. It would explain the dragons in Kirkwall too. Silver Warden (talk) 03:33, February 11, 2015 (UTC)
Almost confused DA dragons with Witcher dragons, lol. In the Witcher franchise, dragons and cats are drawn to places where magical energy gathers. 12.146.29.230 (talk) 11:01, February 11, 2015 (UTC)
I got that epilogue on my first playthrough when I didn't kill the dragon. The epilogue went on to say that the dragon eventually left, presumably to find a more isolated nest, destroying the temple and leaving the ashes lost amongst the ruins. If the Guardian managed to survive all that, he would have no reason to stay, with nothing left to defend. DemonyThings (talk) 14:50, February 11, 2015 (UTC)
They did not think about the people who left it alive, most killed I bet but those who left it alive get no answer about the dragon... maybe BW did not think this through or maybe they had an explanation and deemed it unnecessary to put it.--DaveManiac3 15:44, February 11, 2015 (UTC)

They did indeed have a couple different epilogues if you let it live. It varied on other factors as well, such as letting Genitivi live and making a deal with Kolgrim. The fates of the high dragon "Andraste" and the Guardian seem to have no effect on each other from what I've seen.

Epilogues for the Urn of Sacred Ashes in DA:O - http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Epilogue_%28Origins%29#Urn_of_Sacred_Ashes

As for dragon roosting preferences, in most universes they tend to prefer high mountains and secluded areas and they seem to follow that pattern in the DA universe for the most part. They may well be attracted to places where the veil is thin but it seems difficult to determine for sure. We don't know what the Dragonbone Wastes were like when they started going there to die. The Tevinters hadn't built anything there until after that point and the veil could be thin now simply because of how many dragons have died there. The veil was likely torn in the Blackmarsh after the Queen's arrival since she was killed by the Baronness. The Bone Pit mines used to be run by Tevinter slavers who sometimes fed slaves to dragonlings, which could explain why they nested there. The feedings also thinned the veil there, so that might've also been a factor. Vampire Damian (talk) 23:41, February 11, 2015 (UTC)

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