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I am just curious as to what everyone would change about the game if they had the chance. I myself wouldn't change awhole lot since I like it just the way it is. There are a few things however that I would have added and tweaked just a bit. Not only that I would have added just one more expansion. Emmalee (talk) 16:01, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

What exactly would you change Emmalee?

I would change some of the decision outcomes, for example after saving the mages, allowing some templars to fight alongside them, or perhaps an open world feature rather than fast travelling. i hated having to travel in and out of the brecilian forest repeatedly to obtain the Axameter.

other than that my only gripe with the game is that all the characters look so nasty with their clothes off, the elves and dwarves limbs are wildly out of proportion, whilst all the female characters look a completely different shape to when their clothes are on, and wear the least flattering set of underwear ever invented. Its a minor gripe, but it made the love scenes (particularly with morrigan at the end) a little bit too wierd for my tastes --86.7.138.221 (talk) 16:30, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Sexy underwear for the female characters, yes please. Anyway...

My view on the game(DAO only, not DAA or the majority of DAO's) is that the game is a very good game, but a game with a lot potential.

The possitive stuff is: 1. A very impressive lore, I think the only medieval fantasy lore I would consider to be significantly better is the lore made by Tolkien. I think bioware deserves huge credit for this part, though I know a lot of the inspiration is obvious, such as the similarities between Thedas countries and real world countries. 2. The lore has been used to make a well told story, though not very original. 3. The idea about the origin stories something I realy like, because it gives the main character a identity and depth 4. The gameplay is very good and easy to understabd 5. Interesting companions with personalities and identities 6. The option to read a lot of stories, lore, etc. 7. The play with the elven identity. Elfs is normally some kind of semi-supernatural beings, e.g. in Tolkien lore and thats good. But I also like the way Bioware has turned this common concept of elves up site down, to tell the story about the poor and the slaves.

What would I change, not that much, I would rather improve, so what would I improve, I will base this on the above positive stuff list: 1. Nothing much to change here 2. Once again continue the good work however, Bioware is trying to sketch a medieval world, so please add a lot more dirt and shit, the game is to clean. Try to avoid the glittering images we always see in games. Don't forget that the street is the sewer in a medieval city. Even the alianage looks like a hospital. 3. I know this is going to change in DA2, but anyway this is where I would make the biggest improvements. Somehow I think the potential of any origins hasn't been used. I would like to let the origins influence the game a lot more, and perhaps add more unique parts related to each the origin stories in the main part of the game. One example of a current problem is human noble, you don't get that many unique references to your character, from the moment you finish the origin story and the conversation with the king. 4. I think most will agree that the rogue is a downscaled warrior, this is wasn't changed in DAO, but it will likely change in DA2 5. I would like a lot of small changes. Two examples, 1. During the end of the unrest in the alienage mission you meet Caladrius, he makes you an offer if you let him live. Morigans comment is that it is nice offer but a bit messy, a very nice comment if the main character is a city Elf... i think anyone who has playing as city elf would know 2. When you enter Orzammar and talks to Leliana, she talks to you like you have never been to Orzammar, that conversation should be changed if you play dwarf. 6. Nothing to change here 7. More bold choices.

PeterR (talk) 16:49, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

PC Origins sucks specially the Human Noble, so that's the only thing I would change.Nubska (talk) 17:17, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

That´s a matter of personal opinion, I found the gameplay with my HN quite immersive. I´d appreciate some more specific lines, like when Zathrian was talking about revenge on the whole lineqage of those who killed his family, my Cousland would definitely have something to say to that. Ygrain (talk) 18:08, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

I wouldn't change that much about Origins. Rather then fix a few things. 1) In the HN origin I would make it so that Sir Gimore wouldn't die. He would somehow survive the attack and be there when Fergus got back to rebuild Highever. 2) If you are in a romance with Zevran - I would have it so you could kiss him anywhere you want. Just like if your in a romance with Alistair. 3) Also while being in a romance with Zevran I would have him say that he loves you. But only after you kill Talisen(sp?) and he "sorts out" his feelings .. Anyone know which part I am talking about. 4) I would have more hair styles.

Same in Awakenings. I would only fix some things. 1) I would have more interaction with your campanions. You could actually talk/bond with them like you can in Origins. 2) Romance options. Anders would have been so fun to be in a romance with. Or even Nathianel. How fun would that have been if your a HN.

I would have also made one more expasion. It would have been were you go to Highever to help Fergus with something. There could be a impanding invasion or something along that line and Fergus sent a request to the king for some help. So the king sends a few of the Grey Wardens to help out Fergus. Not only that but it owuld have been so much more fun if you were to have been a HN. The dialog would be slightly different then if you were to have made a new Warden. Emmalee (talk) 18:45, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

I probably wouldn't have made dog a party member, just a side companion. Sadly, I'm a console player so I never had access to that Illustrious dog mod.--TheGreyestWarden (talk) 21:50, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

I would take out all the homosexual stuff. I am not being homophobic i just don't think it suits the game and there is too much of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.66.92.206 (talk)

Well if that's not a conversation starter, then I don't know what is!--TheGreyestWarden (talk) 23:57, January 7, 2011 (UTC)
I'll second that! ;) There's only one thing I would change and it would be the part where you're trapped in the Fade. Everytime I play it it just annoys me but I'm not even sure why :S (DDragonfly1990 (talk) 05:22, January 8, 2011 (UTC))
Definitely :-) I´d like to know, for instance, how it doesn´t suit the game. Could anyone enlighten me? Ygrain (talk) 06:10, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
"too much of it"? Unless you make the effort to engage in a homosexual relationship it's probable, in fact likely, that you'll skip any and all of it entirely. Why does "I'm not a homophobe" often precede some of the most prevalent, poorly concealed homophobia in our society? Komrade Vasilevsky (talk) 06:52, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Hear hear. You can pretty much see that everywhere today. People going "I'm not a sexist", "I'm not a racist" or "I'm not a homophobe" pretty much open the floodgates. Reminds me how some people think they can say the most offensive things as long as they start with "no offence".--Ironreaper (talk) 07:44, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

I couldn't agree more. I am not homosexual my self, but I have no problems with people who are. What I don't like is people who don't accept that some humans like partners of same gender, whats the problem? They don't force anyone else to do the same, and anyone who sais more freedom and no homosexuality is a complete fool who should stop using the word freedom. I love the way DAO has been adding some homosexuality, and I wouldn't mind if there was much more I DA2 to break down the preconception. --PeterR (talk) 17:11, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Isn´t this peculiar? Depicting massacre, torture, rape, slavery and whatever else comes in mind is alright. A private moment between two consenting adults of the same gender - wow, what an offense. Ygrain (talk) 18:20, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Well we must remember that the poster wrote "i just don't think it suits the game". Not exactly sure what this means and if you ask me it seems a little bullshitty. I'm guessing the poster is heterosexual but it seems odd, myself and a lot of other heterosexual players don't seem to have a problem with it as is evident with PeterR's response. Maybe we're the odd ones? But who knows, maybe the poster has a point... maybe... a little bit... or not at all...(DDragonfly1990 (talk) 19:37, January 8, 2011 (UTC))

Lets take the example we know from the game is Leliana, she likes both genders, why not add that to all relevant companions(irelevant character would e.g. be dog) in DA2 and let the player choose. I'am only playing with female characters, and has a lot of relations with Leliana. PeterR (talk) 19:51, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

I'm a heterosexual guy, and though I don't care if Zevran hits on my character, I can see where some might be annoyed. Why not have it in the options menu to be able to select sexual orientation? You can turn off persistent gore, why not turn off "persistent Zevran" as an option?  ;) LVTDUDE (talk) 20:45, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
While we're on this topic, I think one thing that annoys heterosexuals is that homosexuality has kind of been forced into everything. Every TV show has a gay character now. How prevalent is homosexuality? I'm talking percentage of people. Maybe 5%? I am completely guessing here. I doubt it's anywhere near 10%, though. Anyway, if you have a party of 8 characters, statistically you should have perhaps 1 homosexual character. Having 2 makes things are a little out of whack. I understand developers want to cater to everyone, but it does get a little annoying when it seems forced. If it suits the story to have a homosexual character, cool. However, making everything like a McDonald's commercial where there's a white guy, black guy, asian guy, asian girl, elderly guy, middle-eastern girl, elderly woman, white woman, white girl, black girl, etc....is a little ridiculous. Everybody needs to stop being so offended when someone is excluded. There weren't any slightly overweight, bald, heterosexual, white guys with glasses in the game, and I'm okay with it. LVTDUDE (talk) 20:59, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
A quick search of the web shows that 2-13% of the population being homosexual is a fair estimate. According to Wikipedia, "In the United States, according to exit polling on 2008 Election Day for the 2008 Presidential elections, 4% of electorate self-identified as gay, lesbian, or bisexual, the same percentage as in 2004.” Take that stat for what you will. LVTDUDE (talk) 21:08, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
Zevran and Leliana are bisexual, not homosexual. Around 10% (higher if you're Spartan) is the better estimate for bisexuality - 3-5% is more often the "exclusively homosexual" estimate. And I've been in plenty of random 8-person groups with 2-3 gay/bi people... Including myself, obviously. --Thiafy (talk) 10:31, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Some countries have death penalty for homosexuals, USA second big party the republicans shouts freedom and no homosexuality, wtf. The attitudes towards homosexuals is very often very unfriendly or hostile, so I guess the number is higher because some is afraid to admit it. You also need to add those who live a heterosexual live but is homosexual.

@LVTDUDE you already have the option to choose between hetero or homosexual or no relations, it depends on your choices during the conversation in DAO. So you don't need it as a separate option, and you could say that homosexual relations can be as much or less a part of the story as heterosexual relations. The moment you make homosexuality something special is the moment when you discriminate either homo or heterosexuality because then you say both is special. PeterR (talk) 21:19, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Neither Leliana nor Zevran were exclusively homosexual. They were bisexual, a group that is overlooked with surprising regularity (i.e. Bisexual erasure). The Kinsey Reports are an interesting and related read, and I'm partial to using the Kinsey Scale to gauge peoples sexuality myself. This thread is getting way off topic though, if people want to discuss sexuality in Thedas at length I suggest someone opens a thread on it.  ✪Aedan Cousland | Talk | Contr 21:22, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

I don't mind people that prefer the same gender. They are people just like we are, they bleed the same color, they put thier pants on one leg at a time, etc. The only difference is that they prefer someone of the same gender. I really don't see a problem. Emmalee (talk) 21:35, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, anyway I have started a new threat http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Homosexuality_ect._in_games_etc. which continues the subject about homosexuality.PeterR (talk) 22:30, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

That thread appears to be locked, without any apparent explanations, so I'll just throw my two cents here: I'm lesbian. I would have been unlikely to consider buying Dragon Age: Origins if I hadn't heard it had gay people in it. I would not have bought it, period, even if I'd considered it anyways - I am a fan of the genre - if it had any romance at all but did not have gay romance. The fact that there is romance means that a lack of gay romance would be a conscious decision on their part, and that any gay buyers would have to figure out how to completely ignore a giant area of the game, which is not fun, thanks. I'm not roleplaying a straight girl, or a nun. If I could change one thing? Maybe I'd throw out all that nasty heterosexual stuff in the game. Tyvm. (Actually, I'd probably just give Shale more lines. That golem is amazingly hysterical.) --Thiafy (talk) 10:23, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know how to say anything but.... In DAO, I would change many things:

One: Spears? No Spears? I want a Spear or polearm that isn't Kolgrim's axe. Two: More fighting styles. A Gladius and a kris shouldn't be used the same ways. Three: More equipment slots. I don't see why I can't wear a mage hat underneath a helmet, 10 rings, and sunglasses. In reality if I found three rings, one which improved a stat, one that made me fire proof, and one that was made of gold, I wouldn't hawk the third for 20 silver and walk. I'd show off my blinging fire proof super strength. Four: Bigger shields. A nice, tall Scutum or a wide Aspis would be nice. Five: Basic weapon talents for Arcane Warriors. Its not hard to learn "Shield Bash" or "Dual Weapon Sweep." Six: More attacks like Fireball--quick AoE (also Sleep) that doesn't require charging Seven: More equipment slots... for Dog/Shale. I don't see why Shale can't dual weild Greatswords or Mauls; Dog can totally support some Chainmail and a helmet —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rale, The Earth God (talkcontribs)

On the subject of having gay/bisexual people in the game, I actually find it fun. Isabella, for example, is great because she is having fun but is still serious. I don't think the game overdoes the homosexuality at all. I agree, that unless you seek it out, there isn't much of it in the game and when it is in the game, I usually enjoy it's presence. Plus, me being straight, I kind of find it flattering to get hit on by a chick. Anyway, I don't think I'd change much in the game and for those who really could change body type and hairstyles, I guess you can download the mods but I'm getting the impression that many here play on the consoles. Just feel good that they do exist. YOU ARE NOT ALONE! However, the one thing that I think would have been awesome would be when your Warden exists the palace at the end, it would have been cool to watch them riding or walking through hordes of screaming, adoring citizens of Denerim cheering for their Hero. That would have been cool. It makes your defeat of the Archdemon...more rewarding.--Fantasyeve87 18:49, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

all of this b.s. about my comment is ridiculous the forum is "What would have you done different?" and i said what i would have done different. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.66.92.206 (talk)

It was a highly controversial topic you brought up without anything to back why you believed so. Their's no need to get offended over it, but you must have realized that people wouldn't let that just go undiscussed.--TheGreyestWarden (talk) 01:00, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

I am not getting offended i just think it's all a bunch of b.s. I honestly don't care about homosexuals I just don't like it forced on me when I am trying to play a game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.66.92.206 (talk)

I'm really sorry everyone for taking this off topic, but when exactly was it FORCED on you? The only time I remember it coming up was when Zevran flirted with us, and then all we'd have to do is click on one sentence to set him straight. The same with Leiliana if you were a girl character. It's not like their was a quest somewhere where we had to deliver a gift to a guy's boyfriend, that ended with a cinematic of them making out--TheGreyestWarden (talk) 01:22, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

What about harren and wade to get some of the best armor you have to deal with them and when you tell zevran to stop being gay you get disproval so you have to deal with zevran being gay or get disproval and possibly have to kill him because you can't his approval high enough after telling him to stop being gay so it is forced on otherwise i would not have said it.

It was on the forums that it was announced that Harren and Wade were a couple. Also, you were just buying armor off them, not talking about their relationship. If just talking to a homosexual is WAY too much, then I'm sorry but it comes off as VERY homophobic. Also, the issue with Zevran was a metagaming thing, It was the same with every other character when you told them that you weren't intrested in a romance.--TheGreyestWarden (talk) 01:38, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

ok i don't care i am not goning to sit here and argue with you i have better things to do i have not insulted homosexuals i just don't want to deal with them in my games so thats what i would change about the game so you can argue if you want but i am done.

Since this has gotten way way way off topic I am going to make a different topic about what we would like to change. I think this one is to far gone to be brought back. Emmalee (talk) 04:30, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

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