A tad early but I decided to get it up; so for those who have played/watched the DLC, what were your thoughts on the reveal? Especially with Solas being the creator of the veil and the supposedly true nature of the Elven Gods (Evanuris). A couple of us speculated that they just might have been powerful Elven mages. In spite of that, how does this put everything else into perspective?
Also, the Imperium seems to be the guaranteed location for the next game it seems. I still think Solas won't be the big bad in the next game but the one after that; his plans seem truly apocalyptic (though so did the Breach), so they could truly end the series with that I guess? Or sooner; the elves have just all mysteriously left so... But I wonder what the Inquisitor's role will end up being in the future.
That said, with the whole fade/veil reveal, it gets me thinking about the other continents in the world, the executors in particular. I just wonder what role they'll have to play--though I did theorise they might be a colony of Elves from old, but I seriously doubt that now. 
21:26, September 8, 2015 (UTC)
Well, I've seen the opening, and the finale moments on Youtube, and thank god I have my laptop back and can finally log in, but won't be playing it through until tomorrow/thursday courtesy of the EU PS store. The ending itself really put a lot into perspective for me. For instance, during the Descent DLC we learn the titan stirred a thousand years before for some reason, and they fell earlier for another. So, I think the titans were an integral part of the elven civilization, in particular how the evanuris ascended to pseudo godhood. Then, the veil is erected, and they fall, the titans are crippled. Then, when Cory and co. breach the fade they stir for the first time. Then Cry returns, breachs the fade etc etc, it stirs. I don't know if any titan info was revealed in the DLC but after the ending, this is the story I have come up with for them, whatever they did before the fall is beyond me.
The fact that the Evanuris aren't actual gods isn't a surprise. I had had an insane idea in my head that when Ghilan'nain ascended to godhood she LITERALLY ascended to the place of the gods. Mainly because solas says without the veil there were crystal cities in the sky and the word ascension was used. So... yeah...
Solas being Solas, and Fen'harel being a taunt from the gods was actually, surprising. And Mythal's murder pushing him over the edge made a whole lot of sense. He was linked to Mythal like the Wolves were linked to the warriors of the Dales, in that one codex from the graves. He wanted nothing more than to protect her, and when he failed he became a symbol of the elven rebellion. His mantle became a rallying call for the rebellion. Which ultimately led to him erecting the veil. Which explains why he was too weak to use his orb when he woke. That must have taken a whole lot of power, like a millennium's worth of built up mana. Or drained him for a millenia.
I do like how Tevinter is being set up as the next setting, I get the feeling we'll play a character thrown into the Qunari/vint conflict who then gets dragged into the Dread Wolf/Inquisition Missions and we'll have to decide the fate of part of the world, all the while a greater threat looms on the horizon in the form of the Elven Pantheon. Since, if Cole could get through the veil un-demonized, one of the evanuris will manage to do so for the sake of making things really interesting. Which, actually, brings me to the whole Solas is Fen'harels master thing.
That sucked. Yeah, fair enough it made sense, but it sucked. Why did he have to be the one. Why couldn't they have made it one of the evanuris. Would've been so much better in my opinion. But then, they would have had to explain it all, so Solas was probably the easier option. But then again.... Corypheus was a darkspawn.... Could be Elgar'nan is working against him through the blight... I actually have no idea if thats possible.
Gahh... I don't want to watch the entire thing through, so I'll have to wait until I've played it all before I say anymore. BUT bring on Dragon Age 4: The Dread Age... Meet Rebel Person. An agent of the Dread Wolf who upon learning his ultimate goal must choose to side with the People or with the World, and must also finally end the conflict between the Qunari and Thedas among other things.
BUT GODDAMN IT I WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE HAND BEING REMOVED! FOR ONCE I WAS RIGHT! I'm so happy I could cry, but I can't. Because my tears are all drained after realizing I was right. I loved that mark so much... 
22:58, September 8, 2015 (UTC)
- I was happy I was somehwta right about Iron Bull as well, and as a side note, as at present I dont have much to contribute, I've heard based on the dialog with Solas is what determines IF you lose the arm. Warden Mage: Ferris (talk) 23:30, September 8, 2015 (UTC)
- I've only seen the one playthrough where Solas turns the arm to stone to stop the Anchor, but I know you have the option to attack him. So I'm guessing it might be possible that the Inquisitor dies, but I don't think the arm stays. As Solas does tell us, it will kill us. 23:42, September 8, 2015 (UTC)
- I've only seen the one playthrough where Solas turns the arm to stone to stop the Anchor, but I know you have the option to attack him. So I'm guessing it might be possible that the Inquisitor dies, but I don't think the arm stays. As Solas does tell us, it will kill us.
- If you try to attack him he just makes the anchor hurt more and then it progresses as usual.--ssalgnikool (talk) 17:30, September 9, 2015 (UTC)
Does anyone else think that the false gods are locked in the Black City? Or is the old theory of it being Arlathan gaining further ground, or does the timeline not fit for that? Also, if the fade and the world we know as it was in the past, were one, what did that mean for other continents? Was it just strictly Thedas? 07:52, September 9, 2015 (UTC)
Is there any special dialogue with Solas if you romanced him? I'm kind of on the fence with purchasing this. ChildofKyne (talk) 11:55, September 9, 2015 (UTC)
- Not too much. It is acknowledged and he does show his love in a nice, nuanced way; there's some Elvish dialogue whilst they speak too. The way they did it however made perfect sense. The fact that it was short and to-the-point, gave it a greater impact.
13:55, September 9, 2015 (UTC)
- There's actually a fair bit of difference in the way Solas interacts with you on a romance save imo. The scene where he removes the mark is obviously where it's most pronounced - he sounds a hundred times colder about it if the inquisitor isn't in a romance with him. It's more that it's widespread through the dialogue rather than being focused in one big point. Overall, Solas sounds sadder and more vulnerable if romanced.--ssalgnikool (talk) 17:30, September 9, 2015 (UTC)
Damn it bull! I guess what Dorian said was right: 'Never trust a Qunari'. Also damn it Solas! I romanced him, but it seems I'll be forced to kill him and his elven armies in the next game, for my next playthrough I don't know who to trust, every elf I've met could be one of his bloody agents. Also we got confirmation that Felassan was one of his agents. Sadly on my playthrough it glitched and thought Gaspard was emperor when I made Celene/Briala the rulers of orlais, a bit annoying, but he was only mentioned twice, still i'd like to know how Briala lost control of the eluvians to the Qun and Solas' minions.--Shaerala (talk) 14:53, September 9, 2015 (UTC)
- If it helps, I made the 3 of them work together and ti glitched to say Gaspard was ruling as well. Hopefully that will get a fix. Iron bull only betrays you if the chargers died in his personal quest (I had heard he also does it if you dont complete the personal quest) in my playthru I brought him along and he had some interesting dialog, and when prompted to betray me, it was like Zev back in origins, he just said "not a chance" it was cool. Did anyone else notice some subtle nods to game glitches? Cole seemed to mention "leaving an item, come back to it and there's more" and if Krem romances the bard he will mention "I often stood to get a better look at your..er.. songs" Warden Mage: Ferris (talk) 16:53, September 9, 2015 (UTC)
- I got the Gaspard glitch too (though my playthrough was a three way truce). About the eluvians, the obvious answer seems to be elven viddathari. I'm sure Briala keeps a keen eye on every noble in Val Royeaux and Halamshiral, but her hang of her elven network must be a lot looser due to its organization. If elves can infiltrate the inquisition, that has by far one of the most competent spymasters in Thedas and no racial bias, I don't see how Briala, with a more fluid chain of command and a soft spot for her fellow elves, could stop them.--ssalgnikool (talk) 17:30, September 9, 2015 (UTC)
The thing I'm most curious about is Flemeth. The dev notes said she agreed to let Solas kill her so long as she got to pass her essence over to Morrigan earlier, and she says she wants a reckoning that will shake the very heavens against the people who betrayed her. Why would the so called nice Mythal advocate killing everyone to bring back the old days? She's possibly the only person in the entire game that doesn't make the Dalish PC feel like shit for being Dalish, and now she's in favor of blowing everything up to bring back True Elves? And what role does Morrigan play in all this? Another thing that surprised me is that I didn't expect Elgar'nan to be responsible for Mythal's murder as well, since he was supposedly her counterpart in the pantheon and respected her, or so I assumed.
I'm... not sure how happy I am about this Solas thing. Sure, whoo, I was right about what his plan was, but his plan seems nonsense. "how would you deal with the evanuris?" "I had plans". That's not the most reassuring thing I've ever heard, since your plans seem to be reliable in their chances to go wrong. He says he's not like Corypheus, but right now everything about him is Corypheus II - The Coryphening.
About the inquisitor, while them losing the mark was obvious (too powerful not to come up again), I'm getting a bit tired of the whole "I am not going to be the protagonist... but I am on a MISSION" thing. Let them rest or commit yourself to bringing them back rather than going for this awkward middle. I also think it's a bit weird that inquisitors who have romanced Solas have the option to try to "save him" and change his mind even though non-romanced inquisitors do not because I doubt they'll adjust the plot to it and the inquisitor who still believes he can be persuaded will sound just like one that's coming for his blood. Anyone else thinks that Harding being on the final scene may mean the inquisitor is sending her to Tevinter to get "people Solas doesn't know" for their efforts, so she can be a part member?
About the DLC in general, this was by far the best DA DLC I've ever played. The slides in the end telling me of the future made me feel a bit emotional over the end of the inquisition. The Dorian/Bull slides and dialogue were also adorable. Surprised that the inquisitor goes off with Sera of all people.--ssalgnikool (talk) 17:30, September 9, 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not sure how I feel about the whole Solas thing either. His plan sounds like the architect's plan... His plans are almost too evil to be true...
- I would have liked some deus ex machina thing to swoop in and "fix" the Inquisitor's hand. The mark made him who he is, and while as a mage inquisitor I could still see him able to cast spells, for a warrior inquisitor, it feels like his days of fighting are totally done. For a person who took out like 13 dragons, I just feel bad for the guy to go out like that. It's all so... Jaime Lannister...
- This DLC was definitely on par with Awakening, but it felt... mixed up... I mean you show up to the palace for a peace talk and suddenly, viv has you relaxing on a spa day, if you romanced josephine, she takes you to a weird opera, and mentions "last night" in the dialog the next morning. So wait we were here for peace talks but it's cool to kill a whole day at the spa, and then go to an opera before I decide to sit down and talk inquisition plans? The Narrative just felt "hurry and talk to everyone so you can get to this meeting on time" but the dialog of the companions felt like "we got days before the meeting, take a break" it's just kinda conflicting. Happy birthday to Bull btw. (loved that scene trying to distract him) Other then the pacing issue it overall is one of the best DLCs I've played in the series as well. It does some good setup for their next game (if they decide to make one, I dunno why they wouldnt tho) it answers some questions, adds a few more, the emotional connection to the group is felt throughout the whole adventure.
- Did anyone else find it strange Ferelden of all places wanted to disband the inquisition? To me it seems like Orlais would have been the one to demand they disband the army. They used to be the ones in charge of the chantry, templars, mages and such, to have all that taken away and regrouped on their border, seems like it would have upset them more then Ferelden. Alistair is king in my game, wouldn't he have trusted Leliana? (even more if she was divine?) Also wouldn't he want a force on the border of Orlais who he knows has nobles who would want to see them reclaim lost territories? nit picky I know, it just struck me as a bit odd. but all in all, If you skipped JoH and Decent, you should definitely get this last DLC. Warden Mage: Ferris (talk) 18:48, September 9, 2015 (UTC)
- Ferelden, and especially Alistair, were more hostile anyway during DA:I to the Inquisition then Orlais was. Also, especially if you sided with the mages, you'll get blamed a bit by Ferelden for the mess at the end of the mission In Hushed Whispers or Champions of the Just. Orlais is more like 'Oh, interesting strange organisation who messed a bit with our country, but we'll be fine since we screw over ourselves often'.
Alistair has changed a lot as king btw. Just my 2 cents here.