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So, who should it be? The Warden from DA:O or Hawke from DA2? Or should be a new Warden or relative to the Warden from DA:O?

In my opinion, it must be a Warden. I don't want to play with Hawke again. -- - PureSlayer 06:54, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, I wouldn't be completely opposed to a new protagonist but there's no way i'm going to use Hawke again. After DA2 though the only thing that best thing they can do to save the dragon age series is to go back to the basics of Origins. If that means using the warden then I'm completely fine with that. As long as the protagonist isn't voiced, having Hawke voiced just sort of nailed home the fact that in DA2 you were playing as someone else's character and not really having an effect on anything, just standing by. The Warden felt like he/she was your character, tailored to each players individual tastes, and you were able to tell that your decisions had an impact. Hawke just felt like the developers character, and having the voice just didn't work. It worked for Sheperd in ME but it doesn't work in DA. NegativeCity (talk) 07:03, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

I sure don't want to play Hawke again, ever, but I don't think they should be bringing the Warden back. I see his story as finished, he's gone beyond, and is either dead, or changed into Maker knows what, or a superhero whom you can't really play. It would require a very cleverly devised deus ex machina solution to bring him back, and any fault in the execution might prove fatal. I think the game should have a fresh start, with a new hero but not as limited as Hawke. Ygrain (talk) 07:16, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

New PC. It's a new game, it would allow the most continuity. I'm all for cameos of Wardy n Hawke tho. I'm the opposite of you NegCity, I loved the fully voiced character. I'm not having a dig or anything. I just feel the voiced PC gave you more of a feeling of it being a complete story, the whole silent response, spoken response, silent response, spoken response can get a bit bland to me. I think they could create something that meets everyone's expectations and then some, with a blend of everything they've made to date. Really, the voice doesn't need to change whether you're playing any of the races. The only differences would be Dalish, but they could explain that away as you've grown up a Dalish, but weren't born a Dalish. S13Kuro (talk) 07:32, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I don't want to turn this into another Warden vs Hawke thred but I just don't get all this Hawke hate. I love my Warden (Wardens?) but I also love Hawke. Back on topic, I wouldn't mind playing either in DA3, though I'd think Hawke would be easier to import to the next game. As for a new protagonist? Don't mind as long as he/she has some connection to the events of Origins and DA2, maybe a shell shocked Ostagar survivor or something. Andy the Black (talk) 07:43, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Well, in my case, it's not hatred but rather indifference. The character does not appeal to me, I can't identify with him/her. And playing as someone you don't care for really sucks. Ygrain (talk) 07:51, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

I wouldn't mind Warden, but I don't want to play Hawke again. A completely new character would be preferable, though. Hawke is the developer's creation. Warden is you. To me it feels more...satisfying playing as someone that talks and acts like you. I don't mind a voiced protagonist, but if they go that route, you should choose a tone at the beginning (so you don't sound bipolar when choosing different options), and the wheel (which I think they should scrap because ME and DA are not interchangeable) should represent what you're actually going to say better. I also don't mind a silent protagonist. I hear a lot of complaints about them, but you have to use your imagination and put yourself in the game, so to speak. If you see Warden as just another character, then yeah there's no life in him/her. Both characters seem to have unfinished business, but I don't think BioWare would have us play either of them as a PC again. BloodMage1229 (talk) 11:29, May 26, 2011 (UTC)BloodMage1229

I would prefer the warden, but think that's unlikely. Hawke's fine, there is no hate there, but he doesn't do anything for me at all. He's entirely forgettable and unimportant in my mind. Pretty boring actually. I suppose I'd play again as Hawke, but I wouldn't be excited about it, nor would I look forward to it. I'd probably buy DA3 when it was dirt cheap, much later if that's the case. The warden would pump me up though. It's probably the only thing left that would get me excited about a DA3, cautiously still though. But ultimately I think they will go with a new guy. The warden would be hard to make a game around at this point, but not impossible. Hawke wasn't really all that popular obviously, so it would surprise me a little if they went that way again. Bioware's got to be concerned about selling games next time. I just can't see Hawke doing that, especially after all this with DA2. But we'll see. The Grey Unknown (talk) 12:39, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

I would prefer playing as Hawke. The ending of 2 made it clear that Hawke's story isn't over and i think it would be a waste to just replace him now. I really liked my Hawke and i will be extremly disappointed if he is to be replaced with a new character in DA3, but i would gladly welcome a new PC for other installments in the DA series. Thorulf Amell (talk) 12:51, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

I would either like to play as Hawke or a new protagonist.I actually liked Hawke but I would prefrer a new hero. Developers have said that Dragon Age is about the world, not about one protagonist. As cool as it would be to have the Warden back I feel like they brought his story to an end. It would just seem out of place for him to come swooping in (which is bad) and save the day like he's Superman.--JackfieldsA113 (talk) 13:22, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

In all honesty i don't want to play as Hawke int he new one as well, although i would not mind haveing a voiced character, so long as they did it well. If you want an example of a well voiced RPG character go play the Witcher 2, the main character voice acting in that game was superb. Back on topic, i don't want to play my warden again either, because as it was said earlier, he would be way too strong, so unless they did something totally weird to make him a blank slate again (which would piss me off anyway) then it would be like being unbeatable. Although i would love to see the warden make a cameo. --Raiuki (talk) 14:42, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Everyone is entitled to their opinions but why do most of you want to play as the warden again? Is it because the time you invested in him? Or because you want to see the repercussions of your choices through him? I think that playing as the warden would be very impractical since:

1- He's old (I think late thirties now?) I don't know about you gus but there is something odd about playing an old character who has done everything. Also would hamper romancing a bit

2- Any silent protagonist could take the place of the warden since his origin, race and choices are what define him, meaning that any silent protagonist could be the warden's equivalent if he had the same options.

3- Having silent protagonists is a bit outdated now and not a characteristic that bioware can market to get new buyers.

Just for the record hawke is no better since he was a tool and a boring one at that, not to mention it would be a bit dissapointing to play with the same guy again. So all in all, the best choice would be a new fresh protagonist with a lot going for him like the warden.--The Grey Hawke (talk) 14:48, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

As much as I'd like to play as the Warden again, I seriously doubt it's gonna happen. One thing for sure though, I don't want to play as Hawke again. I don't hate they guy, I (somewhat) like how he turned out after it was all over, but in the end he's still a 'Bioware molded' character that I can't get attached to. So with that said, I think the best route would be to play as someone new, though I'd love some sort of connection to my beloved Warden (ie. an apprentice or something to that effect). I'd also like them to return to a silent protagonist, that way I can imagine my own voice for him rather then going through the game with an annoying one, or at least give us a few options for each race ala DA:O. But like I was discussing with someone else on a different site, Bioware wont admit defeat and go back to a silent main character. The Eternal (talk) 16:09, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

I think we should be able to choose in the beggining of DA3, although I don't think that's going to happen. I'd like to play with the Warden again, or to have him a a companion, or something. Hawke? THat one is better at the Companion side of the history, so I think the thing is to have a completely new character, completely new. But that's my opinion.Tales Mahariel (talk) 18:41, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

It will probably be Hawke. They are taking a Mass Effect route with with Dragon Age now so I really would not be surprised if we continue on with Hawke. 66.172.97.214 (talk) 19:44, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

It's obvious there will be a new hero in DA3 which will play his own role in the big story. The similarities between the warden and Hawke are showing the general trend: -both of them kill an ogre, are considered worthy and are saved by Flemeth -they rise in power and become the hero/champion of their countries (Ferelden/Free Marches) -they disappear after a while and little is known about them DA3 will be clearly about a new hero in Orlais - all clues are pointing there. Also you can bet all of them will reappear and will play a major part in the end war of the gods (like other people suggested I believe Flemeth is in fact Razikale the dragon of mistery (one of the old gods and probably also the forgotten ones) who tries to regain his full power to overthrown Fen'harel/The Maker (whio tries to be the only god recognized)