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So, I've been playing the new DLC, and just found the last of the "Chronicles of a Forgotten War" lore bits, and I'm feeling like speculating about these "Scaled Ones." Personally, Until the last entry at least, I thought maybe they might have been the Sha-Brytol, or maybe early Darkspawn. But now I'm not so sure. The last entry makes me think they might be some sort of dragon-men, in a more literal sense than the Qunari. That said, there isn't much there to guess off of... Still seems possible that they're Darkspawn, but that would seem to imply a level of empathy outside of what we know of them, what with the implied shock after a loss on their side and all. The "more feminine voice" for the one leading the crazy blood&fire ritual also seems off for Darkspawn. What do all of you think? Something else to be filed away with the Executors for now? Eggy the Duck (talk) 13:26, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

Probably. I'm at a loss for what they could be, myself. Best guess, they're another native subterranean species like the dwarves, possibly either displaced or exterminated by the Sha-Brytol.--99.47.233.81 (talk) 17:41, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

I was thinking Darkspawn until the last entry, myself. As for the feminine voice...perhaps either an Archdemon (we know Razikale is confirmed as female thanks to Jaws Of Hakkon DLC) but with it possibly being the first blight and Dumat confirmed as male then perhaps not..unless we've been killing Archdemon's out of order. Or One of the Old God's now blighted priests was leading them hence the whole blood magic stuff. Again that's all dependant on whether the scaled ones are actually Darkspawn or a early version of Darkspawn, could have changed over the Maker knows how many years and grown more deadly or weaker?

For the empathy bit, the writer suggests this may be the first time this group have actually lost one of their own as he mentioned caravans getting hit which could have been easy targets. Maybe they are realising they are not invincible. I'm sure I can think of other things later but I'm stil processing all the new questions the DLC has thrown at me. Phoenix96 (talk) 19:13, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

Oh, you mean like ALL the questions? To go along with ALL the thoughts? :P But yeah, I hadn't thought of the priest angle. Still, the more I think about it the more likely it seems that their something... else. I mean it's possible that this could have been first contact, the area is said to be about 1000 years old... but something seems off to me... If they were Darkspawn wouldn't they have mentioned the blood at some point to tip us on? Unless they just want to see us stew... Yeah, that's probably it :P Eggy the Duck (talk) 20:06, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

Clearly the Scaled Ones are Thedas' version of the Dwemer (who happen to be the dwarves in that plane of existence, not to mention it's already got its own scaled race that has nothing to do with instantaneous population disappearances). :P RShepard227 (talk) 06:28, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

When I found these entries I immediately thought of Jaws of Hakkon's weird conspiracy stuff, specifically the bit about "Snake Kings of the Earth". Yeah, I know, it's an obvious spoof of David Icke's theories, but still, first we have Snake Kings of the Earth, and now underground reptilian humanoids... Athaniar Silverbranch (talk) 11:56, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

This is making me think about the random lizard creatures that were painted on the wall in Dirthamen's temple. The one you visit after finding all the glyphs, or something. Anyway, one of the biggest things I was curious about was who or what the hell these lizard men on the walls were, and by the looks of it they were fighting against the elves as well. I'm wondering if maybe they could be the scaled ones, and that they also had a thing down in the deep roads going as well. 16:09, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

I believe that the scaled one are the Kossith or an early version of the Qunari, due to Iron Bull saying how they believe that Dragon Blood was worked into the species. The Leader is Female and the blood magic which could have been further modifications to the species. Kieran says to the Qunari inquisitor that their blood doesn't belong to their people and the Elder one says the Qunari are not a race they are a mistake. Its a bit of a long shot but still a possibility. --Silaw89 (talk) 00:49, August 14, 2015 (UTC)

Actually, part of me is starting to wonder if rather than "Dragon" blood Qunari have Scaled One blood. There are some implications that Qunari have Eleven connections, and with what Deakial brought up... Could the Kossith/Qunari be half Elf half Scaled One? Or is it possible that the Kosith are the scaled ones? I think it was Iron Bull who talks about how the other Kosith/the people where the Qunari came from were different, in a way that made me think different in the Dwarves and Elves kind of way rather than the Orlesians and Fereldens kind of way. Eggy the Duck (talk) 01:16, August 14, 2015 (UTC)

It would be interesting if the Kossith pre-Qun are these scaled ones. Alertfiend (talk) 03:19, August 14, 2015 (UTC)

Somehow I doubt that these Scaled Ones and the Kossith will be revealed to be one and the same, I still believe that they were created to be shock troopers in a war. But, its certainly a possibility, but not one I'm overly fond of. One thing I have noticed about this codex entry though is that it presumably pre-dates the fall of Arlathan, for one reason and one reason only. Cad'Halash Thaig. The only other time we've heard this name is during witch hunt when it's revealed the dwarves gave sanctuary to the elves, but then those dwarves were wiped out in an effort to maintain peace with Tevinter. And given that there's no mention of elves being given sanctuary or in-fighting among the dwarves, I'm assuming this codex predates Tevinter. By a long, long way.

Bit of a crackpot theory here, I know. But there were hints in Dirthamen's temple that the elves appeared to be at war with a race of lizard men so it is possible the Qunari were made to fight in this war. And we can assume they won, and then the Qunari were exiled for being abominations or fled for fear of their lives, the last remaining lizardmen retreated underground and then encountered these dwarves, while the elven pantheon drove their society into chaos with in-fighting and rebellions and then Tevinter comes along and wipes them out. On a different note, I am curious to know whether the Old gods were imprisoned at this time, because it could be that these scaled ones are somewhat distantly related to the dragons. The codex does mention the feminine one breathing fire AND using magic, so it could be possible the Scaled ones were an ancient race of dragon worshipers and they were underground draining blood from dwarves to power a spell which would wake one of their gods and then they could return to the surface and renew their conflict with the elves. But like with so many spells in dragon age, it backfired and went horribly wrong in some way which resulted in there being no evidence of their existence or actions in the deep roads left. 10:47, August 14, 2015 (UTC)

I doubt these have any connect but meh. So I am playing right now and I just became a reaver, Cassandra just said that the dragonblood addicts went mad, killed entire families and grew scales. Just wanted to throw that out there. Alertfiend (talk) 12:53, August 14, 2015 (UTC)