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I would like to gather all references to this as I believe they connect a lot of thing in the DA universe. This "Song" I'm referring to is an element or concept in DA lore associated with magic, The Fade, and the Taint and possibly other things.

Red lyrium sings as confirmed by red lyrium addicts. Those addicted to normal blue lyrium suffer dementia but does not complain of any song.

Grey Wardens report hearing a beautiful song in their head when they reach their stage of The Calling. Spirits can also hear this song.

Let's turn our attention to Cole and check out his party banters [1] at 1:07:18, he states that he likes travelling with dwarves and that "the Old Song still echoes inside. Almost like templars."

Still echoes. Meaning that once this "Old Song" was once whole inside dwarves. Cole also comments to Vivienne that tiny spirits draw to her song when she casts spells, and also comments of mages being brighter. I believe dwarves were once able to cast spells but lost it for some reason. That or they were once deeply connected to magic.

I believe that there are more than one "Song" in the DA universe. There are different "Songs" in the DA universe. All of these are connected to The Fade. Blighted red lyrium sings. The blight came in the First Age.

Get back to the video above and go to 1:53:10. "There are songs in every part of you, Serah." Are these connected with life force? emotions? I'm not sure. Still a lot we don't know about this world.

What do you think? Have you found other references to the song? Have some dots to connect?--49.149.4.8 (talk) 12:58, December 28, 2014

Regular blue lyrium sings too. Justice mentions it in Awakening when in Kal'Hirol and when you give him the lyrium ring. I believe that he calls it the most beautiful thing he's ever heard --Hispanic! at the disco (talk) 23:05, December 28, 2014 (UTC)

What if these "Songs" are all the work of the maker? The Blights were punishment for mankinds assault on the heavens, Lyrium was a gift to the world which provided magic. I'm not a fan of the maker's existence, but I think that having a collection of songs wound throughout the ages and embedded in the very fabric of the world being the maker would actually be really neat. It's like sleeping people pop into the fade where they hear this beautiful song, but the memory of it is fleeting, and when they wake up the memory of it is faint. But nevertheless it's still there, and over time people began to see the song form into something new: Belief in the Maker.

I think that doing something like this means they don't drop the bomb on us. Be it the maker doesn't exist, the maker does exist and has a real form and can be killed, or the maker is a super evil badass from the deepest recesses of badassdom. Or the maker is Sandal. What do you guys think, intertwined songs tied to the belief/reality of the maker or "lets just reveal the maker as Sandal"/something else along these lines? DeakialSig1 15:24, January 2, 2015 (UTC)

Hm, with all the lore stuff collected from Inquisition, I was heavily leaning towards the Maker not being real. Or, at least, not as the "all-creator."

I think the "old song" is connected to the old magic - the nature of the world during the time of Arlathan, when the "Fade" was a part of the physical world, and magic was intertwined with everything. Maybe that's why the old dwarves were more connected to magic. And with Cole's comment about Sera, I think Sera is a vessel to a spirit/entity. There's a theory that the essence of Andruil is within Sera (like Mythal within Flemeth, except more dormant), and there are some compelling evidence for it. If true, this could connect her "song" (again) to Arlathan, and the "old magic." As Sandal said, "One day the magic will come back." --KeladinStorm (talk) 01:56, January 10, 2015 (UTC)

From what I've gathered, blue lyrium sings to spirits but not at all to mortals. Red lyrium sings to mortals (and drives them insane). I'm not sure if red lyrium still sings to spirits. Archdemons sing to the darkspawn/wardens. If the Maker does exist, I suspect it's just some non-creator spirit playing a trick (possibly Fen'Harel, there have been several theories about this). Creator spirit or not, if it does exist I fully expect it to be evil and possibly the true source of the darkspawn taint and cause of the blights. As for Sandal, I suspect he's the bastard child of Endrin Aeducan and an elf. Probably a elven mage since Sandal is currently the only dwarf who can do magic (as far as I know). He's also the only inter-species crossbreed I've heard of in the entire DA universe. However if Sera contains the dormant essense of Andruil, perhaps Sandal contains the dormant essence of another Elven God or some other being. Was Sandal in DAI at all? Vampire Damian (talk) 23:14, January 12, 2015 (UTC)

Sandal and Bodahn weren't in Inquisition at all. Wade is mentioned in a war table op after you kill a dragon. I wonder if Bodahn lied through his teeth... the secret truth is he and Sandal are Falon'din and Dirthamen, respectively. And Wade is June... Just leaves Sylaise, Ghilan'nain, Elgar'nan and Andruil to decide.... (This is just some not-so-serious speculation btw) DeakialSig1 01:35, January 14, 2015 (UTC)
That would be interesting, if that were the case. I just found an article that I made a new topic for that might indicate that the Elven Gods are the Archdemons. Vampire Damian (talk) 01:51, January 14, 2015 (UTC)
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