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I've noticed an increasing number of questions in the forums which in my view properly belong on Dragon Age Answers or forums elsewhere, such as the Bioware Social Network. I believe that the forums should be reserved for discussion and debate regarding Dragon Age as laid out the forum guidlines, and questions should be asked in the suggested sites above. To prevent these threads from clogging up the forums, I think the following solutions could be feasible:

  • Admins locking or deleting threads and answering the asked questions on the talk page of the user
  • Locking the thread as soon as an answer is given
  • Opening a new section in the forums such as "Game Help" or "Questions"
  • Adding a new portal specifically for questions

However, I'm concerned that the above suggestions may seem rather strict and restrictive, and I feel that the wiki is nothing if not inclusive and tolerant. Elementalist KC. | talk 01:44, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Half the reason I lurked these forums while playing DA:O was to get questions answered.

I lean towards opening a new section in the forums such as "Game Help" or "Questions". Killing questions completely would be...bad.

And I had absolutely no idea existed. I'm moving there now. Temporarily. I'll be back once I'm kicked out of there. Cheers! Quirkynature (talk) 02:44, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Just to be clear, I don't want to nip questions in the bud and kill them off before an answer has been given and verified, but I do think that they take up unnecessary room on the forums which could be filled with discussion, and that's why I think they need to be reduced or separated from the forums. Elementalist KC. | talk 03:04, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

The Dragon Age Answers is not related to the wiki, don't be mislead by that though (not saying this specifically to anyone, just a general note). Wikia just stuck this on the sidebar, but I don't think logged-in users see it yet (unless this has changed and it's only me). Until the answers wiki is clean up and actively maintained, I wouldn't really recommend it.

Locking, deleting threads and answering to their talk page is overkill, and also a lot of unnecessary work, especially for administrators. This includes completely locking a thread when it's been answered, since other users may provide more information. A new section would probably better if this is needed, "Game Help" would be less ambiguous than "Questions" (unless you want to put any type of questions, gameplay or lore related). --D. (talk · contr) 03:07, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Wiki answers (including DA answers wiki) is part of the Wiki group but not a part of this Wiki. I think we are reaching outside our parameter here. That been said, I think "Game Help" or rather "Dragon Age Game Help" is a very good suggestion. Since we are talking about forums, what do you think about another forum where people can discuss about "non DA related, but gaming related" things. Such as "EA-Origin effect", "DRM" or "Future of RPG that blends with Action-Adventure" etc. -- Snfonseka (Talk) 03:19, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
Honestly, I like the idea, but I think all things on the wiki should be kept DA related. I think chat is the best medium for such conversations, and from the times I have visited the wiki chat, users are more often than not discussing matters which are non-DA related. Elementalist KC. | talk 03:24, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
Yea, but chat is only a temporary thing where we cannot continue a lengthy discussion. -- Snfonseka (Talk) 03:42, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
"Game Help" should be enough. It's also shorter, and somewhat follows the naming convention for other forums (e.g., "Game Discussion" instead of "Dragon Age Game Discussion").
For gaming forums, I'm neutral, but there needs a demand for it from users who actively contribute on the forums. The chat isn't the best for everything, and not everyone can follow or want to participate. --D. (talk · contr) 04:18, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
I don't frequent the forums enough to know what sort of questions this might be. From my brief visits to the forums, it has generally fallen within two categories.
The former is the "what if.. or when if..." questions. These are speculative opinions about when a game might come out, or what someone's opinions are of a certain game. In these cases, the forum is the right place for these discussions.
The latter would be something along the lines of "how, what.." questions. Questions that are objective and have an answer within the game. For example, a question a user once had in the forum was "is there a bug where if you romanced Leliana, but she fails to acknowledge her romance with the warden in DA2?". The answer, provided succinctly by User:Michael Largness was that "if you played the expansions, like Witch Hunt, then the original romance flags are not carried over, just the approvals.
In the case of the latter, the answer should be clearly be provided within the wiki itself. For example, Bugs or Imported saves and pre-built histories should contain that information. And the best way to provide the answer to the question is to point them at the subsection containing the bugs.
If we have to tell a user to look elsewhere for their answer, then we aren't providing a comprehensive repository of Dragon Age knowledge that we should have.
I am with User:Snfonseka in saying that we should never drive users to another site for answers. -- tierrie talk contr 04:48, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
Bravo Quirkynature (talk) 05:22, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
Problem is many question many users post are such that it becomes quite clear that they haven't even tried searching the articles for answers and have just traipsed in and started a new thread.
So I'm on board with not sending users away, and starting a new 'Game Help' forum. I am also supportive of KC's locking of threads once a question has been answered properly, but not deleting them, since that information can be useful to someone else as long as the page exists.Diain (talk) 05:29, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
I certainly think think editors should be welcome to ask questions about the games and I think the forums are the place to do it. I'd support creating a new section of the forums called Game Help, as it might be slightly easier for those who are looking for help to know where to post and hopefully as Tierrie suggests we can just send them to the appropriate wiki page which will provide an answer. If contributors to the Game Discussion also dislike having the section used for questions, that would be another reason to consider it.
As for having an off topic section, as this stage I'm against it. I think the forums, talk pages and chat provide enough room for people to discuss things related to gaming, without us having to actively encourage people to branch out. I think an off topic section would also be more likely to lead to contentious discussion which would require additional moderation and possibly detract from our primary purpose of wiki building and Dragon Age approval (or disapproval as the case may be Icon wink). Friendship smallLoleil Talk 05:43, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see why we're seemingly working under the notion that people asking game related questions is a bad thing. Generally, most people probably seek out forums/wikis in order to find something out, or to discuss, so people who want answers may turn into people who become active members. I'm all for an entirely new section in the forums that deals with DA game related questions. It will group them all in one place, possibly reducing the need for certain questions to be repeated as people, new or active can scroll through them virtually in dot point form. But then, what changes about the existing Game Discussion section? New rules dictating it's for discussion of things that aren't necessarily black and white and explainable in the games? It may become a bit blurry to any new people trekking in. It may need a new title, the Game Discussion section. As if we have a Game Help section, at first glance newbies may be a bit confused where to post a game related question. What if the Game Discussion section is renamed Dragon Age Discussion? Actually I can see further up D.'s spoken about it, I just think that the new section may call for the renaming. S13Kuro (talk) 06:57, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

If we are to change it, the lore section would have to be renamed I think, or even merged with the Dragon Age discussion. Renaming it to "Dragon Age" would definitely makes this less about the games, since there are novels and soon movies for Dragon Age. Unless we rename them like "Dragon Age general discussion", "Dragon Age technical help", "Dragon Age lore discussion", etc. --D. (talk · contr) 21:16, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Just posting an update regarding this: if no one disagrees with this, the new section will be named "Game Help" since this is the name that is currently agreed on (the section will be added this weekend unless you guys want to completely change the way the forums are named). --D. (talk · contr) 02:50, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

Would it be worth adding a warning message to remind people, within the new "Game Help" section, that their answer might already be included on the wiki? Could you include the wiki search box prominently on the new Game Help page? Or even have a tick-box that requires people to confirm they have searched the wiki before creating a new thread? NickyStuu (talk) 10:58, September 1, 2011 (UTC)NickyStuu
It is probably possible to do these things with Javascript, but I think it may be a bit aggressive (and also annoying). I'm not sure which wiki search box you are referring to: the global one (that we see on every page) or the second search box within the forums (which also searches within the wiki if checked)?
Although it's not really related to this comment, the forums should probably redesigned to make them a bit more appealing (just some color changes and redesign—on the default skin, it's rather narrowed). I like The Vault's forums. --D. (talk · contr) 03:21, September 2, 2011 (UTC)
I like both the name and the idea, as well as better skin for the Forum section. I know I plunked a game question down in the forum this evening which was about 60% ohwhythefrackwontthiswork and 40% "well then, does the wiki page that covers this need changing, since it wasn't accurate (and has squishy wording in the inaccurate section)". It's all related. Legionnaire Scout *talk* 04:09, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

Can't hurt to trial it for the time being anyway. If any issues come to light deal with them as they come.S13Kuro (talk) 17:12, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

I think we should let things the way they are, there are forums for lore, where people spend most of the time discussing possible future of coming games, speculation and such; for game, that serve like a really hepful game guide; and for Wikia, such as this discussion where we talk about improvements and the current state of the Dragon Age Wikia. For me this is the best place to discuss about Dragon Age, different from the Bioware site where they censor us for saying that DA: O was better than DA II, here we can give our opinions freely, I personally think this is the best wikia there is, since it breaks from the usual formula of a wikia and offers much more than just a mere encyclopedia, and I ask that we don't end this. But if it is decided that the wikia must change, call for a vote. Te Shukalaryc Mand'alor20px 20:50, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Are you ABSOLUTELY sure we should the way they are? I mean, what if the way they are? Or if the way that is? A vote is too simple a way to decide if it should the way it is.
I don't know if I'm correctly. Tell me if I am. I'll try to it better. Quirkynature (talk) 21:36, September 3, 2011 (UTC)
You should read again what this is about. We are not killing the forums. --D. (talk · contr) 21:46, September 3, 2011 (UTC)
I know were not killing the forums, I'm just saying that changing the forums wouldn't be beneficial, it ain't don't fix it. Te Shukalaryc Mand'alor20px 13:49, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
No, but that doesn't seem like a bad idea, though. All in favor or making me the sole admin, say 'aye'.
Aye! Quirkynature (talk) 00:16, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
Troooooooooolllll, in the dungeon... TROOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-OOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLL, in the DUNG-eon. S13Kuro (talk) 00:20, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
Dung, brah? Why ya gotta do that, brah? I thought we wuz cool, brah. That's not cool, brah. Don't make me go all The Sitch on ya brah and bash my head into a concrete wall, brah. Quirkynature (talk) 00:26, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
The words, no, it's not even a friggin word! 'The Sitch' make me want to do just that. S13Kuro (talk) 00:38, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
You know, I can't talk to you like this, when you're all emotional and unreasonable. :| Quirkynature (talk) 14:45, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

@ Quirkynature and S13Kuro, if you don't have anything constructive to add to the topic, please stay away from the thread. Use your talk pages or chat function for your private talks. -- Snfonseka (Talk) 03:41, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

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