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Erm, just to say that i was talking about it, and btw Alistair doesnt provide firm statistics its his "word" and nothing more and it just applies to ferelden anyway, we dont know the demographic of other wardens in Thedas, and you do realise times change, and they may seek more dwarf wardens due to their natural ability and immense strength, and regardless of that i know about the first wardens, thats what i said above lol. But regardless of which, their is no firm stats, and whats to stop them from getting future dwarf wardens, albeit the blight being over but rumours of a new threat in the anderfels. Nevertheless, Oghren is amazing. End off a haha ---[[User:Lazare326|Lazare326]] ([[User talk:Lazare326|talk]])>
 
Erm, just to say that i was talking about it, and btw Alistair doesnt provide firm statistics its his "word" and nothing more and it just applies to ferelden anyway, we dont know the demographic of other wardens in Thedas, and you do realise times change, and they may seek more dwarf wardens due to their natural ability and immense strength, and regardless of that i know about the first wardens, thats what i said above lol. But regardless of which, their is no firm stats, and whats to stop them from getting future dwarf wardens, albeit the blight being over but rumours of a new threat in the anderfels. Nevertheless, Oghren is amazing. End off a haha ---[[User:Lazare326|Lazare326]] ([[User talk:Lazare326|talk]])>
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:What stops them from recruiting dwarves? Decreasing population. Every year darkspawn get more numberous and dwarves less as a result of too many lost battles with those fiends and closeness to the taint, which disturbs their fertility. Even wardens would honor not recruiting a dying race for suicidal missions.[[User:FirstDrellSpectre|FirstDrellSpectre]] ([[User talk:FirstDrellSpectre|talk]]) 15:46, February 2, 2014 (UTC)
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I hope you do realise that I was basing this on speculations and not facts!!! For heavens sakes, here we go again, I dont think you understood what I meant. The wardens aint gonna go there recruiting half of the dwarves and regardless of that Kal-Sharok is active although "CLOSED" it could link, so the dwarves are not much of a dying race, as well as the surface dwarves. The Orzammarian Dwarves maybe be on the decline but not the "surface" ones or the Kal-Sharok ones. Realise the difference between speculations and facts. Read again. ---[[User:Lazare326|Lazare326]] ([[User talk:Lazare326|talk]])>
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Sigrun would kick both their monkey asses. Oghren is the strongest, but he misses his target too much, and he seems to have a dying problem. I find in my playthroughs that he tends to run low on life a lot. Whereas Sigrun can dodge many attacks. She's also the fastest DPS of the three. Also, melee fighters always do better against archers. Sigrun can stealth and use precision strikes to take them both down. No contest really. But as a character, I like Oghren the most out of the three. Oghren has backstory and a well-written connection with Branka, and with Felsi and their potential child. Sigrun is mostly one dimensional, though I do like her character anyway. She has this potential to become more than what she thinks she is, and her struggle to find her place and purpose is interesting. I think Varric is just a stereotypical dwarf without much going on as a character. [[User:Believe it!|Believe it!]] ([[User talk:Believe it!|talk]]) 19:43, February 4, 2014 (UTC)
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:Sigrun isn't one dimentional. She is a former thief, who joined the Legion. She had instinct of survive, due to it she survived battle of Kal'Hirol, unlike her bros in arms she wasn't ready to die. She hates dwarves, yet she protects them to prove she's worthy. Sigrun once betrayed trust and she regreted it and tried to fix it. She also has a dark sense of humor, what makes her interesting. She doesn't trust Architect and hates darkspawn like every humanoid. She is also interested in the surface world.[[User:FirstDrellSpectre|FirstDrellSpectre]] ([[User talk:FirstDrellSpectre|talk]]) 20:43, February 4, 2014 (UTC)

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Who between Oghren, Sigrun and Varric would be victoriuos? I don't mean threesome fight, I mean who do you think is the most effective on battlefield? In other words, who is the best?FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 20:00, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

That's like asking which is tastier, apples or oranges. Each character is completely different in their abilities, filling in different roles. Oghren is a line combat character, he gets into the thick of things, making use of his anger to do extra damage and taking on groups. Sigrun, while technically a combat character, is still fragile compared to Oghren, she's supposed to skirt around combat and taking out single targets. Then you have Varric, and if he's in hand to hand, then you're using him wrong. The guy is supposed to be back sniping enemies or tying them down with his crossbow. So its pointless asking which one is the best, because they all have different roles. If you really want to ask what character was better, stick with the disciplines, like Sten, Oghren and Fenris, or Leliana, Nathaniel or Varric. --Madasamadthing (talk) 20:19, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

And even then it would depend on how they were used in the persons game and what was their build ;) Diain (talk) 03:02, June 14, 2013 (UTC)
Exactly, but it still boils to down to how they are used (presuming you don't respec Oghren or Sigrun in Awakening). Each character is wildly different that you can't decide which one is better. I typically run a 2 Warrior/1 Rogue/1 Mage party and if I play Awakening, chances are, Oghren is going to be one of my warriors, especially if I use a Human Noble Warrior or a City Elf Rogue, he can be a pretty effective tank when needs be. But if I play a mage or another rogue, I might take Sigrun for the extra quick damage she can dish out. Conversely, if I play DA2, Varric is an auto-include for any Hawke (that said I usually never use Anders, Fenris or Merrill, too annoying, so I'm limited in who I can use).--Madasamadthing (talk) 16:07, June 14, 2013 (UTC)

As a creator of that topic I have additional question. Who do you think is the best of them as a dwarven character of them all and who's as a fighter?FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 11:06, February 1, 2014 (UTC)

Personally I love Oghren, this guy is amazing, and was one of my favourite companions in Dragon age, but I also liked Varric, and loved his character going against the stereotype of the traditional dwarf. As for Sigrun, I dont have strong feelings for her. But it's hard to say between oghren and Varri ---Lazare326 (talk)>

I also like Varric as a stereotype breaker. However my favorite dwarven charatcer is Sigrun, because she has interesting and complex background and an interesting sense of humor.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 10:00, February 2, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah that is pretty true, although Oghren is probably the dwarf i miss the most, as well as him becoming a grey warden, i'd love it if we see him in a cameo---Lazare326 (talk)>

In DA2 he makes a cameo, becuase in the hanged man is his concept art.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 11:23, February 2, 2014 (UTC)


I know that, but that was more of the devs putting in as an easter egg, I want a physical cameo which would be pretty awesome. Or maybe more than a cameo, maybe as a warden, he'd help the Grey Wardens recruit more dwarven wardens. That would be cool. ---Lazare326 (talk)>

More dwarves are in Legion of Dead and Silent Sisters than in the order of grey wardens. Dwarven among wardens are very uncommon, because they are very rarely recruited. Most of the grey wardens are humans. Besides the Blight is over, so recruiting is not necessary and Oghren detest Orzammar, so he'd sooner search for recruits in Orlais. FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 14:38, February 2, 2014 (UTC)


Actually in the epilogue of awakening and in da2 stroud hints that there is some business in the anderfels, in DA:A its hinted its a blight, and the wardens are not exclusive to humans, and whether they are in the legion of the dead doesn't matter, they may be seeking to diverse the combat force of the wardens, and sending a dwarves to look or scout for some individuals is nothing rare, its better than sending a human in many instances, Dwarven grey wardens uncommon? Well its not a an inneccesity, as at the beginning there were many grey wardens. And they wouldn't send oghren himself to look for recruits in orlais, it'd be more upto the warden commander of Orlais. Besides even though the blight is over, they need strengthening and considering this game is partly in ferelden, there is the possibility of him recruiting soldiers as wardens in ferelden since there is the lack of them there. We're basing judgements off little evidence. ---Lazare326 (talk)>

Alistair says to a dwarven warden that dwarves are rarely recruited. I am not talking about possibility of recruting dwarves, but statistics.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 15:29, February 2, 2014 (UTC)


Erm, just to say that i was talking about it, and btw Alistair doesnt provide firm statistics its his "word" and nothing more and it just applies to ferelden anyway, we dont know the demographic of other wardens in Thedas, and you do realise times change, and they may seek more dwarf wardens due to their natural ability and immense strength, and regardless of that i know about the first wardens, thats what i said above lol. But regardless of which, their is no firm stats, and whats to stop them from getting future dwarf wardens, albeit the blight being over but rumours of a new threat in the anderfels. Nevertheless, Oghren is amazing. End off a haha ---Lazare326 (talk)>

What stops them from recruiting dwarves? Decreasing population. Every year darkspawn get more numberous and dwarves less as a result of too many lost battles with those fiends and closeness to the taint, which disturbs their fertility. Even wardens would honor not recruiting a dying race for suicidal missions.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 15:46, February 2, 2014 (UTC)

I hope you do realise that I was basing this on speculations and not facts!!! For heavens sakes, here we go again, I dont think you understood what I meant. The wardens aint gonna go there recruiting half of the dwarves and regardless of that Kal-Sharok is active although "CLOSED" it could link, so the dwarves are not much of a dying race, as well as the surface dwarves. The Orzammarian Dwarves maybe be on the decline but not the "surface" ones or the Kal-Sharok ones. Realise the difference between speculations and facts. Read again. ---Lazare326 (talk)>

Sigrun would kick both their monkey asses. Oghren is the strongest, but he misses his target too much, and he seems to have a dying problem. I find in my playthroughs that he tends to run low on life a lot. Whereas Sigrun can dodge many attacks. She's also the fastest DPS of the three. Also, melee fighters always do better against archers. Sigrun can stealth and use precision strikes to take them both down. No contest really. But as a character, I like Oghren the most out of the three. Oghren has backstory and a well-written connection with Branka, and with Felsi and their potential child. Sigrun is mostly one dimensional, though I do like her character anyway. She has this potential to become more than what she thinks she is, and her struggle to find her place and purpose is interesting. I think Varric is just a stereotypical dwarf without much going on as a character. Believe it! (talk) 19:43, February 4, 2014 (UTC)

Sigrun isn't one dimentional. She is a former thief, who joined the Legion. She had instinct of survive, due to it she survived battle of Kal'Hirol, unlike her bros in arms she wasn't ready to die. She hates dwarves, yet she protects them to prove she's worthy. Sigrun once betrayed trust and she regreted it and tried to fix it. She also has a dark sense of humor, what makes her interesting. She doesn't trust Architect and hates darkspawn like every humanoid. She is also interested in the surface world.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 20:43, February 4, 2014 (UTC)