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Morrigan. I don't agree with most of her views, but as Aedan put better than I can, she is so conflicted and so complicated, and that gives her more appeal than Leliana. And those golden eyes with black hair do help.[[User:Croc484|Croc484]] ([[User talk:Croc484|talk]]) 12:59, January 2, 2011 (UTC){{User:Croc484}}

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Hello, I know this pointless and stupid and whatever else...but I don't really care...who do you all prefer dark haired temptress Morrigan or Leliana...

and by the way just to MAKE IT CLEAR If you have nothing nice to say...PLEASE, f off.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MrSupreme10 (talkcontribs) 22:01, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

I prefer Leliana. She is a more romantic romance than morrigan thats more "Tis cold wanna join me in the tent?" Hammerage (talk) 22:37, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

That's a tough call but I'd have to go with Morrigan. I like the both of them, but were they real I think Leliana's personality would grate on me sometimes. Some people would probably say the same thing about Morrigan, but personally I think I'm more suited to dealing with Morrigan's personality than Leliana's. Leliana also seems a bit high-maintenance and while Morrigan likes jewelry she seemed to appreciate the simple things more. I'm also a fan of the tragic romance, but with Witch Hunt that might not be the case with Morrigan anymore. We'll just have to wait and see, not that it would change my choice.

Just in terms of appearances: in DA:O proper and the concept art I prefer Morrigan, though Leliana wins out in the Sacred Ashes trailer. I like Morrigan's appearance in the concept art best though and I use a morph to make her look more like it in game.  ✪Aedan Cousland | Talk | Contr 22:58, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Definitely Morrigan overall. In general, I think Leliana is more of a wilting flower stereotype - the cutesy accent, the easily flustered demeanor, the coyness, the love of shoes and crap. I like the fact that Morrigan is hard-nosed and opinionated and sometimes difficult to agree with. And I think she has more depth to her. There is the surface Morrigan, who's mouthy and sarcastic and a bit cruel, but I think there's an interesting element to her when you consider the kind of abusive relationship she's had with her "mother."

I like Leliana a little more when I'm playing a butch female character - she seems less of a stereotype when she isn't so hetero. LesserBlackDog (talk) 23:50, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

There are different parts of their personalities that I like such as Leliana's kindness and how sweet she is but the whole thing about being so optimistic would grate on me. I would like Morrigan because of her cynicism and rationale but her coldness would grate on me sometimes she seems like there wouldn't be anything personal. A hardened Leliana would be the best but otherwise it would be Morrigan. King of the Dusters (talk) 23:55, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Morrigan, the writing and thought that went in to her story are great and Witch hunt only adds to that, plus who doesn't like to make fun of Alistair.AlbinoBlackLamb|(talk)

Well, I like both of them for their differences, especially their relationship with one another; Leliana provides a good, feminine counter to Morrigan's pessimism. However, I find myself pulling for Morrigan more as I agree with her views of the world and, while I thought her final decision to either have my child or leave kinda made me mad(as I played a female Warden with a (potentially) romantic relationship with Alistair), I loved her dry wit and, frankly, she was more useful in my party(I also played a rogue, therefore with no need for Leliana's rogue-ness. XD). As others have said, I like certain things about both of them; Leliana's happy outlook on life makes me feel better, but Morrigan's somewhat sadistic, darker personality makes me laugh a lot more often. So, in the long run, I like Morrigan more overall. --TwilitWolfAmaterasu (talk) 03:37, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see what the appeal is with Morrigan. I appreciate the character. She's funny and some of her traits are likeable because she is so cut and dry. However, she is a little too mean for me. I have never romanced her but just her dialogue in some situation are obnoxious. "You should not help anyone and any opportunity for power is alright as long as it is to your benefit not matter the cost", is not realy my thing. IMO I do feel that with power comes responsiblilty. I like the side missions that involve helpin some poor soul in need. It was always a thorn in my bum when I would lose approval points with Morrigan because I helped someone. I also thought it was a little hypocritical that she would beg for my help in relieveing her of Flemeth when she was so dead set on not helping people especially if their problems were not in anyway my problem. Plus she's only around as long as she is getting something out of the deal. Just for kicks I denied her the DR and she left on the eve of the battle. Even after I killed Flemeth for her. Leliana seems more loyal. She seems to care about the PC as well as the other companions. I was two timing her and Alistair (I've got my nerve)and I found her sugary sweet demeanor delightful. If I create another PC Leliana is definitely my choice for a female lover. Morrigan is a little to overrated in my book.RhiannonCousland (talk) 04:16, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

To me Morrigan's internal conflict is part of her appeal. She tries to live by the lessons that Flemeth taught her but she struggles with her heart. She has the two different forces tearing at her; what she was raised to believe was right, and what she feels is right in her heart. It's a complicated thing to be sure, and admittedly I've had a similar struggle (probably a large part of why I prefer her). In the romance with her she ends up loving the Warden even though Flemeth taught her that love is bad and to her it's quite the foreign and scary thing. You can really see the internal conflict, the struggle to find her own place and her own values (as opposed to those of others).
I also think that with power comes responsibility, but the nature of that responsibility isn't always clear. I think the main disagreement I'd have with Morrigan is over doing nice things for people. Overall I'm a pretty nice person, but I'll admit that it's not always because I like being a nice person. If doing nice things isn't too much trouble (which it rarely is, though for the most part I like being nice) I'll just go ahead and do it (even if I don't like what I'll have to do), just because it's nice and good for people's overall opinion. I don't believe in true charity because you always get something out of it (whether it's people saying you're a good person or simply feeling good about doing it) but helping others is always important. I like helping other people, I'll suffer through things just to see the smiles on their faces, but I'll also help people I don't like (or even hate) just because I know people's opinion is important (people say it isn't but it really is).
During Origins Morrigan is struggling with the lessons Flemeth taught her but I think she's starting to get past them a bit when (and if) she takes the Warden with her during Witch Hunt. I think she's a rather sympathetic character to a lot of people. She dislikes most people around her but in the Warden she can see good, someone to love and to give her some semblance of hope. Morrigan is trying to find herself, her place in the world, and to understand the world that she's in. She doesn't hold those cheery illusions (that it could be said Leliana and many real people do). Morrigan sees the world as it is; a dark and conflicted place where the answers are neither easy, nor clear.
Morrigan clearly doesn't mind helping people when it's advantageous or if she simply likes them, but when there's no immediate pay off she doesn't seem to see the need. Personally I'd just chalk that up to her being raised by Flemeth and not knowing how to live among other people. Another thing to note is that in many ways she needs the Warden and everyone likes to feel needed. While she can be rather hateful and mean, so can most people (and so can I if the mood strikes me). She just doesn't have very good social skills, insulting Alistair (among others) even though they have to work together.
I might be projecting my personal views on to her a bit (or more), but that's how I see her character. At the very least I can say she's a relate-able character for me. I think if you can understand that kind of internal conflict and understand why she's so defensive (or sensitive as it may b), then she becomes a more likable character. Does anyone else here see what I'm seeing in her? Hmmm... I feel like I might have said more about myself in this post than I'd like but I'm going to hit save anyway.  ✪Aedan Cousland | Talk | Contr 05:41, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

I have to agree with Rhiannon Cousland. I actually just finished a male Warden character and I had romanced Leliana. I mean, I admire Morrigan's bad girlness but I always feel like I'm walking on eggshells with her. She seems to be all talk and if you insult her, she gets angry over the dumbest things. She can't handle somethings being said to her and it pisses her off. However, if she insults you, she expects you to handle it. Although Leliana's constant preaching of the Maker drives me a little crazy, she is more flexible and I like that about her.--Fantasyeve87 04:47, January 2, 2011 (UTC)


Morrigan has surprisingly different attitude when she romances the Warden compared to when they're just companions. She's sort of... nicer, kinder. Or maybe it jsut has something to do with her trying to be seductive and flirt more. I don't really know.

Anyway, I'll have to pick Morrigan. I agree with the previous note how she seems a character with a bit more depth and internal conflict - apparently, when she puts the way she was raised against her own observations, things often start to get hard for her, especially when it comes to "love". Morrigan wants to keep her feet on the ground and not show her softer (and in her mind, weaker) side and she is wise to do so, especially in a world like Thedas, but she isn't all spikes and edges pointed at everyone, too. You may also see a bit of sentimentality and even child-like innocence when you present her with the golden mirror, or when she asks whether you think the two of you are friends.


Overall, however, the comparison is clear. Morrigan is the more rational, cold-hearted, and tough of the two, being a lot harder to befriend and a lot more fickle. Leliana's the easier type of woman to cope with, but thank you, I like the Witch of the Wilds just fine. My characters are rarely the knight in shining armor archetype, either, so I'd say they fit well with Morrigan. Leliana's just a bit too sweet, optimistic, and in a way fanatical for my tastes - that said, she becomes more "grey" and "human-like" after being hardened.

Also, Morrigan contradicts herself, more like an actual, real woman. When you first share the bed (tent?) together she claims to have "no designs on your independence", but try to remind her of that when she acts the "possesive wife" once you play around with Leliana or Zevran a bit too much! Also, unlike Alistair, who contrary to what some may think actually seems to hate her (he wants Flemeth to live so she can possess her, for F*s sake!), Morrigan, while clearly disliking the templar, at least on some level cares for him as a companion - after all, she does take the time to ask about his sister and such.

Last but not least, and this makes my above statements somewhat not objective, let's face it, I'm a sucker for yellow/golden/amber/honey/whatever-you-call-it-eyes. It's almost a fetish. Not to mention Morrigan looks just fantastic when she makes a sad face.

So, all in all - Morrigan > Leliana.

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Morrigan. I don't agree with most of her views, but as Aedan put better than I can, she is so conflicted and so complicated, and that gives her more appeal than Leliana. And those golden eyes with black hair do help.Croc484 (talk) 12:59, January 2, 2011 (UTC)==About me== I'm somewhere in-between a geek and a sociopath. I love Dragon Age, that should be obvious if I am here. I enjoy any kind of Mythology, but Greek in particular. I use the Xbox 360/Xbox One version of Dragon Age: Origins (and anything related.) I do, however, love and own Age of Empires series and some other games like Starcraft and Crysis on PC. My first character for Dragon Age: Origins was a disaster (probably because I had rented the game and was a bit rushed.) All of the Origins are pretty good, but my fav is Human Noble Warrior, followed closely by the Dwarven Noble warrior.


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