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ENJOY DISCUSSStar Metal Knight (talk) 01:40, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

That camera angle makes Alistair's nose look a little big. - 01:46, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

So... we finally see Alistair and Anora rendered in frostbite 3... And, was that loghain standing all solo without any grey in his hair? 01:52, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Also...Boobs.

Naughty naughty naughty... It's like that Jonathan Coulton song. Also, at least Alistair looks better then he did in DA2... so there's that. Crimpycracker (talk) 01:59, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Where did you find these images? Graf Gaius (talk) 02:13, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Damn, I knew some redesign will be inevitable due to many reasons, but... noone old looks like they old themselves. Anora, who applied your make up? Or are you blushing because you finally met the Inquisitor? Also, I must say that I just love the censor on that romance scene. And now I just want my game and romance the hell out of everyone at once. -- 02:34, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

You should put spoilers in the title at least though I already saw these. Some reviewer on a neogaf DAI Review thread posted some of these, especially the one of Cass Supergodzilla118 (talk) Supergodzilla118 02:40, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

If they use that censor in-game... I'd be Ok with that.--Lurooke Surana (talk) 03:44, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Sooooo..... Anora...

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Ehhhh. ;_; Well, I did request that they not make her ugly, and... she's not ugly. She's not pretty either, but at least she's not ugly. Maybe this is what she looks like after being married to Alistair for 10 years. Maybe she'll look better having been married to the Hero King of Ferelden. :D

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... Yeah probably not. ;_; I don't know, maybe she looks okay. Maybe it's the hair. I think her hairline is too high. Her forehead looks more like a fivehead now. Her face looks skinny. Maybe the makeup or lighting is messing things up. But what the heck happened to her boobs? Also, what is she wearing? But yeah, the boobs are just... not there. No cleavage? Is that because of the dress? It seems open in the front, or is that cloth that is the color of her skin? What is going on there? I'll see for myself in week or so. I guess she looks good for being forty-ish.

Loghain's design is unacceptable. He looks BETTER than he did in Origins, which is just flat out impossible. He shouldn't even be alive according to the epilogue. His advanced age made him weaker against the taint, and he succumbs to it within a few years. So yeah, I reject this, but in my playthroughs he's always dead anyway. So, no big deal.

I'm glad Cassandra was redesigned to be decent looking in the facial area. I like her statement about being a protector and lover. I don't mind patting myself on the back for calling this way back when she was first confirmed as a romance. It was always my intention to have my mage romance her and have a guardian/judge theme with her, as if she's my mage's personal templar, ready to defend him or kill him. The story has a much greater impact with a mage.

Also the male kossith looks goofy. Probably will never play as a male kossith. Believe it! (talk) 03:53, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Except of course that the epilogue never actually put a figure on how many years Loghain survived after the Blight. Granted I've only heard someone use "several" to mean a decade a few times in my life but still not an actual contradiction of said epilogue. Not to mention I don't recall anyone ever going in depth about how the taint affects the Grey Wardens physical appearance until it actually gets to the point they start turning into ghouls. I mean Duncan was just about to go on his calling right before ostagar and the guy still looked incredible. The taint doesn't actually seem to accelerate the aging process in anyway. Unless you just mean graphics wise in which case...engine differences I guess?

Also, "The story has a much greater impact with a mage." don't think you're kind of leaping ahead a bit there considering you haven't even played through the game yet? -206.190.158.75 (talk) 04:10, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

I'm just saying that Cassandra's statement in that picture seems to have greater meaning in a mage playthrough, since a Templar is supposed to be a protector and an executioner if needed. Fits Cassandra perfectly, in that she is both Templar and Nevarran (they revere the dead). Also, the mage is in a romance with someone who can kill him easier than most. Adds to the excitement. Compare that to a warrior or rogue, who might not even need Cassandra's protection, or would be able to beat her in combat. Believe it! (talk) 05:18, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Not to argue semantics, but she's a Seeker not a Templar. Granted they're both trained as anti-mage warriors but there's got to be some sort of difference in their training.

-209.95.36.61 (talk) 06:23, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Okay. Well, I never, ever would have guessed those to be Alistair, Anora and Loghain... ever. Little disappointed. Guess the changes were inevitable, still, seems off. As for the ballroom outfits, also kinda off, more like what I'd expect a Chevalier or a General to wear on such an occasion, but I suppose that's fitting. And finally... interesting, going the whole way this time eh BioWare? After the racy underwear from Origins, DA2 and the devs saying romance scenes will be tasteful and whatever I wasn't expecting something so Witcher-y. Not that I mind per se, but I think it's a little unnecessary. Overall, slightly sceptical and possibly disappointed, but not going to stop me from playing and enjoying the game. SenjiBen (talk) 04:42, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

I know. Anora's eyes seem to be smaller and a different shape. Her nose isn't right either, but the more I look at it the more it seems to be acceptable. Give it time. And she is about 10 years older now, so I guess it makes some sense. The ball outfit is lame, in my opinion. Cass' boobs are tolerable, though I hope we get to choose the setting and "manner" of intimacy. I would go for something more tasteful and comfortable. Believe it! (talk) 05:18, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Surely the opportunity to be tasteful passed when you decided to critique her boobs on a public forum? :p

-209.95.36.61 (talk) 06:23, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

@Bellieve it! Yea, fair enough I'm sure I'll get used to it. Especially once I hear the voice actors playing their parts it'll feel like home again ;) I mean, I can stand Anora, like you say, it's been ten years same for Loghain. But Alistair, it's only been about two/three years since his appearance in DA2, and he looked different enough then. The generic ball outfit for all party members is a little sad but bearable. And yea, I still can believe their opting for full reveals. The Mass Effect games did have some near misses as far as romance scenes went, especially for Liara, but proper nudity in a BioWare game? Little sad that they'd have to stoop to that. Not entirely convinced it isn't some kind of glitch or hack, but guess we'll see. Anyway, I'm still hyped for the game, but this has taken my confidence down a notch, also learning that Assassin's Creed: Unity was optimized for PC at all, so really hoping Inquisition doesn't turn out like that. SenjiBen (talk) 06:46, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Waitjustadarnminute! Nudity in a EA-Bioware game? The ESRB rating was accurate then! Fox is going to have a field day with this *sex simulator* :P Diain (talk) 06:17, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

WHAT?! Boobs? Actual, bare boobs?! No more dry humping for romance scenes?!?! THIS IS IMPORTANT! The Witcher just lost all of its uniqueness.

My extreme exaggeration aside, those photos are pretty. Alistair? No so much. I guess thats not his good side. I'm sure he'll look better in-game though. Anora isn't tooooo bad. Just lay off the blush, honey. Vexed Forest (talk) 07:51, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Not quite we still don't collect stickers every time you sleep with someone (i hope) - Faye cousland

Blasted Orlesian Fashion Trends.

-209.95.36.61 (talk) 07:54, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

SMK is back with some good stuff! Seriously man where are you getting this from?

Hah, and I said they wouldn't go for The Witcher levels of nudity. Shows how wrong I was. Good job BioWare, never expected you would ever go this far, keep it up! This game suddenle got even better in my eyes! ;) And I'm sure the romance scenes will still be tasteful, it's not a porn game afterall. This is just the "aftermath".

Alright, back to the other pictures, else I get carried away. ;) Anora looks good, but where's her cleavage? Censored, maybe? Alistair looks seriously off. Not cool. Not cool at all. The male Qunari (Vashoth, whatever) looks wierd. Doesn't matter, someone just made him so. Loghain looks good, his hair changed, though. Whew... Now I'm hyped. Saba0th (talk) 08:21, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Now I am the warpath, seriously this is a game not some porn movie what is Bioware up to? Sure, this may attract some people but others (like me) will be completely put off by this. And when it comes to the good king and queen of Ferelden... I would not have realized it was them unless people had told me, Anora in particular looks more like Aveline, are you sure it is not her? Caspoi (talk) 11:10, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

That's a bit of an overreaction surely. So they get their kit off when they go to bed together like most of the population. Its not as anyone's going to be running around almost nude for the entire game (unless you're one of THOSE modders). As for the King and Queen, it is only my personal opinion but I think Anora looks pretty good. Its kind of hard to judge Alistair with that lighting making him look like some kind of bioluminescent entity.

Also can I mention I love how in the same thread, we are getting people complaining about how they look they haven't changed enough in the interim time span while other say their look has changed too much.

-206.190.136.245 (talk) 11:25, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

It is not the fact that they take their clothes of but more the fact that we are shown it and I do not think they look "bad", just that they look unlike themselves. Caspoi (talk) 12:04, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

I'd call it erotica rather than porn. But come on, it's not like this is gonna be the main focus of the game. Just a few scenes, and most likely no genitals shown. What's so offensive with that? Saba0th (talk) 11:46, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

It is a few scenes to many. Caspoi (talk) 12:04, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Except of course we don't actually know how many scenes involve nudity or indeed to what extent. Besides if its supposed to be a moment of intimacy it wouldn't make any sense for them to have their kit on anyway. Plus they'll probably have some sort of censor anyway. So Caspoi can continue with their ....i'm sorry I don't quite know how to describe that. Is there a german word for when you accept the validity of a criticism in principle but feel its probably unmerited in a specific instance and based on tone is seemingly motivated more by an individual's own attitude to nudity and sexual activity?

-209.95.36.62 (talk) 12:17, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

The original source for some of the pics was on the DA Review thread on Neogaf. Supergodzilla118 (talk) Supergodzilla118 11:21, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

2 things:

Whats up with allistairs nose? and Lol so seeing boobs is offensive? why is the human body such a taboo jesus, if a woman breastfeeds her kid is it offensive too? if someone does topless at a beach is it offensive too? when a man takes his shirt off is it offensive too? its just breasts part of the human body, get over it - Faye Cousland

Naturally it is part of the body but that is kind of the point, it is a sexual organ and sexual organs have during human history been considered impertinent to show. Some people may like it but I do not belong to that group and I hate having to block the screen with my hand. Caspoi (talk) 12:04, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Technically speaking breasts aren't sexual organs, but human society does have a tendency to sexualize them, and the taboo around showing such things is almost exclusively quite a modern, western phenomenon.

But that aside, it would seem that the warden who appeared with Hawke in the Enemy of Thedas trailer was Alistair after all, just not King Alistair. And is it just me or is he beginning to look more and more like his voice in real life, aka Steve Valentine, as time goes by?

As for Loghain he has certainly aged well, but I think I prefer the new look. One, he and Anora look more alike now, and two, I felt his Origins appearance was a little too googly eyed and unnatural so this is a step up. Either way, screenshots are one thing, seeing them in game will be the proof of the pudding --Bel3338 (talk) 12:39, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

exactly! its not like the manbreast are considered sexual organs or offensive in any way... just because some humans find female breasts appealing now its a sexual organ? the biggest sexual organ is skin...are you offended when you see skin? Alas, personaly when the someone who is showing nudity isnt being objectified (aka Witcher) than im ok with. Although, i have a question, when doctors have to ask their female patients to take their bra off for examination is that also offensive? - Faye Cousland

Breasts have been a prominent feature in artwork throughout human history. Just look at the greek and roman art, and a large amount of renaissance art. Besides, I haven't seen anyone complain about Iron Bull being topless most of the time. I think it's only right to put balance in there. As long as there's no in game depiction of genitalia, it's all just dandy. 12:59, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Personally, I find the romance scenes themselves, not the nudity, somewhat embarrassing. It doesn't stop me from watching them. Might be a matter upbringing. Like Bel3338 said, this taboo is mostly a western phenomenon, whereas for example I, as an eastern European (well,technically it's Central Europe) have no problem with that. Saba0th (talk) 13:16, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Honestly guys IMO there's no point in debating this here. People have different sensibilities and no amount of argument or reasoning will make either group convince the other that what they feel is wrong...because in the end it is about how you feel. There need not be a reason behind it. For the people who feel this stuff is inappropriate, you will probably just have to skip through the scenes. For people who feel that this sort of realism is long overdue in a Bioware game, which are just as popular for their stories and the emotions they evoke as they are for their gameplay, if not more, well you are getting your wish, so enjoy. Diain (talk) 14:08, November 12, 2014 (UTC)