In DAI or let's say in Thedas right now, there's a lot going on. The Veil Tears, Mages vs Templars and the civil war to name a few. Do you think a single person is/has been manipulating events to bring something worse? Is something worse awaiting Thedas? But in other words, everything since DAO seems to be artificial, weirdly enough, the Blight was kinda with the Architect, and then we have Hawke and the Warden vanishing. To what ends is all this happening? Is there a bigger picture? Could somebody be purposefully making these events, or almost be a puppet-master, tangling events to lead to an eventual road of destruction? Lazare326 (talk) 19:03, May 3, 2014 (UTC)
I thought that was the whole premise of DAI. --W.bodnaruk (talk) 19:33, May 3, 2014 (UTC)
Thats possible, there could indeed be 'one' person behind all the events currently going on, but I'm gearing more toward the opposite-- A bunch of different people, causing a bunch of different problems all at the same time, has created the perfect storm. At least thats what I'd like to believe. MarkVoided (talk) 19:55, May 3, 2014 (UTC)
I think people of Thedas are eager to fight enough that they don't need more reasons like manipulation to start fighting. Anders and Gaspard started their wars alone without being manipulated by anyone. But I think the Formless One is behind the Breach. It would make sense.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 20:13, May 3, 2014 (UTC)
- The whole point of this manipulation would be that things are purposefully taken further. Just because they're eager to fight enough, doesn't mean that they will. There's always an excuse behind it, and that excuse has an instigator, and that instigator could be somebody(yes), something(s). Despite that, I agree that the formless one is behind it. I hope we learn more about the fade and black city in Dai. Lazare326 (talk) 20:29, May 3, 2014 (UTC)
- Who would have any profit from world nearly anihilated? Ruined, barren, lifeless, full of craters and holes. Who needs such world, where would be noone to rule. I don't believe the one responsible for that would be like Joker, who has no vision, no reason and no explanation for such senseless destruction. I don't want another Cerberus or another Unitologists from other titles of EA, meaning fanatical supporters of destroyers of the world/universe, it would be boring and repetetive of them.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 20:53, May 3, 2014 (UTC)
- Who said that destruction is at the end of it? Control could be. Anything else could be. And just because we don't see anyone not wanting the world to be annihilated, you should know that we shouldn't make sweeping generalisations like that. There could be someone who wants that. On the other hand somebody may be doing this to achieve another goal. A goal we don't know of. Btw, again i'd like to iterate, manipulation may involve someone being behind the tears to weaken nations cause more strife and thus lead conquests. Just one of the possibilities. Btw, Cerberus didn't want the destruction of the universe. Lazare326 (talk) 20:58, May 3, 2014 (UTC)
- Cerberus supported the Reapers in destroying the universe. They didn't save humans, they turned them into monsters and staged wars, doing Reapers' dirty work. Cerberus to me were not humans, they were same to humans what were Collectors to Protheans. Cerberus should be classified as a separate race like the Collectors. But I went off topic far enough. Goal of the Manipulator is meaningless to me, no goal is worth of genocide of majority of continental population. I don't need to understand or listen to the Manipultor, death of that one is everything what's needed.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 21:08, May 3, 2014 (UTC)
- Who said that destruction is at the end of it? Control could be. Anything else could be. And just because we don't see anyone not wanting the world to be annihilated, you should know that we shouldn't make sweeping generalisations like that. There could be someone who wants that. On the other hand somebody may be doing this to achieve another goal. A goal we don't know of. Btw, again i'd like to iterate, manipulation may involve someone being behind the tears to weaken nations cause more strife and thus lead conquests. Just one of the possibilities. Btw, Cerberus didn't want the destruction of the universe. Lazare326 (talk) 20:58, May 3, 2014 (UTC)
- Yes you were off topic. There was no need to bring in Cerberus before considering the fact that they were indoctrinated, thus can they truly be held for their actions? The Illusive man wanted to eventually control them for human-supremancy. On the other topic, i don't care if the goal of the manipulator is meaningless to you,t his forum was not directed to you especially. In fact, the whole point of the manipulator is the fact that you don't know about its plans essentially. Maybe you should re-read my responses at times. Lazare326 (talk) 21:15, May 3, 2014 (UTC)