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I don't think that it could be a group of blood mages, unless it's a group larger than any we've seen before because the ones we've seen thus far could only summon creatures through the Veil, but it could be like running water through tissue paper. If you do it gently enough, only a bit of water will get through, but if you try to do it full stream, it'll tear. As for why Flemeth would do this, people seem to be thinking about what a being like she is now would think, but you have to remember that Flemeth started out as a human and when she accepted that deal to marry that noble guy, it resulted in the death of the man she loved. My guess is that it wouldn't be that far of a stretch to think that she blamed herself and my guess is that that sort of guilt stays with you even after all that time. Now, my belief that it could bring the dead back to life comes from the fact that the souls of the dead go to the Fade after death, but can't get back out because for whatever reason they can't be summoned back through the Fade. However, if a hole is formed, it could theoretically allow even the souls of the dead to escape. As for why she'd wait this long, well, as far as I recall, there hasn't been a major mage-related war this size in centuries and this war, which would involve a lot of summoning demons, would likely weaken the Veil, allowing it to be torn by those that seek to do so.[[User:TheSavage|TheSavage]] ([[User talk:TheSavage|talk]]) 18:14, June 13, 2013 (UTC)
 
I don't think that it could be a group of blood mages, unless it's a group larger than any we've seen before because the ones we've seen thus far could only summon creatures through the Veil, but it could be like running water through tissue paper. If you do it gently enough, only a bit of water will get through, but if you try to do it full stream, it'll tear. As for why Flemeth would do this, people seem to be thinking about what a being like she is now would think, but you have to remember that Flemeth started out as a human and when she accepted that deal to marry that noble guy, it resulted in the death of the man she loved. My guess is that it wouldn't be that far of a stretch to think that she blamed herself and my guess is that that sort of guilt stays with you even after all that time. Now, my belief that it could bring the dead back to life comes from the fact that the souls of the dead go to the Fade after death, but can't get back out because for whatever reason they can't be summoned back through the Fade. However, if a hole is formed, it could theoretically allow even the souls of the dead to escape. As for why she'd wait this long, well, as far as I recall, there hasn't been a major mage-related war this size in centuries and this war, which would involve a lot of summoning demons, would likely weaken the Veil, allowing it to be torn by those that seek to do so.[[User:TheSavage|TheSavage]] ([[User talk:TheSavage|talk]]) 18:14, June 13, 2013 (UTC)
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Can in 1:22-1:26 of video [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diYzYNcloM4]] be [[The Inquisitor]]?[[Special:Contributions/78.8.148.255|78.8.148.255]] ([[User talk:78.8.148.255|talk]]) 19:57, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

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Hey, y’all, like many people, I saw the recent Dragon age 3: Inquisition trailer and am extremely excited about it, if you haven’t seen it, what the heck are you waiting for!? Anyway, I digress. I have a theory about the story, which will focus mainly around a part of the trailer where it looks like the Veil is being ripped. I invite you to read it from start to finish before making any conclusions. This is meant to be a friendly debate so any flamers will be completely ignored.

So, my theory is that Flemeth is tearing the Veil in order to try and resurrect the man that she loved way back from before she became whatever the heck she is now. In case, you don’t remember Morrigan tells the warden about this man in the first game. Now, the reason that I think this is because of several reasons. First, we know for a fact that Morrigan’s going to make an appearance and we know that where she goes, her mother’s not far behind. Second, the Veil separating the Fade and the world of the living itself is being torn, something I only know of two beings that could do something like that and one of ‘em’s the Maker. Flemeth, given her many, many years of experience and training could likely accomplish that, especially with a war involving mages weakening the Veil with their desperate blood magic. Also, with the Veil torn, the souls of the dead could, again hypothetically, be returned to the world of the living. Thirdly, the Grey Wardens are obviously being called into action and that wouldn’t happen unless it was something darkspawn-related, that in mind, the last time the living world and the Fade collided, the first darkspawn were created, so if the Veil is torn completely and living people somehow get into the Black City, imagine what’d happen then! In addition to the wardens moving out, it looks like they’re being opposed by the Seekers of the Chantry. Now, at the end of the second game, (SPOILERS!!!) we find out that a large number of Templars have abandoned their duty, so it isn’t a big stretch to think that the Seekers would replace them. As to why they’d go against the wardens, well, the Wardens is the only group that has so many mages outside of Chantry control, besides the rebels, not to mention that they allow blood magic and demon summoning, so they’d likely blame the Wardens, especially since they don’t believe that Flemeth exists, as demonstrated by Cassandra’s original disbelief of Varric’s story, or perhaps that they have pro-mage ties. After all, Leliana and probably Cassandra can only do so much by themselves. Finallly, there is the fact that in the trailer we see a big dragon that looks suspiciously like Flemeth’s dragon form looking like it’s leading the spirits/demons’ charge out of the Fade. Well, that’s all I’ve got. What do you guys think? Do you agree? Disagree? Why or why not? TheSavage (talk) 22:00, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Two things in particular come to mind when I think about this. One: I doubt Flemeth would make it big and obvious if she wanted to tear open the Veil for just one man, and if this was the case, why wait until now? She's had a couple centuries to do this. Two: The dragon is not Flemeth's dragon form. Her dragon form has four horns. It seems more likely to me that the tearing of the veil is either the result of a large amount of mages working together to unleash some devastating attack (though this is unlikely because it is risky and unnecessarily complicated), or an inadvertent side affect of the chaos from either the large death toll of the war, or an accident due to a large mageworking gone wrong. EDIT: It also occurs to me that it could just be something a group of insane blood mages did for some foolish reason (i.e. show off their power, intimidate people, destroy the world for some religious reason, destroy the world just for funsies, make it easier to contact demons, or just to cause people to focus on repairing the Veil and distract, or make busy their forces. The latter however, is unlikely because it would be mostly mages involved with the task of repairing the Veil.Arkangel37 (talk) 03:27, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

I would agree that the tearing of the veil we see in the trailer is most likely large groups of mages working together. Mages are a minority and I would image the Templars/seekers would have them outnumbered somewhere like 7 to 1. So, to bolster their numbers they summon whatever creatures they can from the fade.Warden Mage: Ferris (talk) 03:52, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

Hahaha why does everyone think that Flemeth is behind everything. Heck, why would she do it for one person. Plus that story may not even be true and may be exaggerated. Although Flemeth may cause the veil rip i dont believe it was for 1 person as nobody knows her motives.

No where does it say or even hint that tearing the veil could bring back the dead, the undead we fight in the game are just possessed corpses and we haven't seen a character come back alive with their original mind. --Halisme (talk) 16:29, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

I don't think that it could be a group of blood mages, unless it's a group larger than any we've seen before because the ones we've seen thus far could only summon creatures through the Veil, but it could be like running water through tissue paper. If you do it gently enough, only a bit of water will get through, but if you try to do it full stream, it'll tear. As for why Flemeth would do this, people seem to be thinking about what a being like she is now would think, but you have to remember that Flemeth started out as a human and when she accepted that deal to marry that noble guy, it resulted in the death of the man she loved. My guess is that it wouldn't be that far of a stretch to think that she blamed herself and my guess is that that sort of guilt stays with you even after all that time. Now, my belief that it could bring the dead back to life comes from the fact that the souls of the dead go to the Fade after death, but can't get back out because for whatever reason they can't be summoned back through the Fade. However, if a hole is formed, it could theoretically allow even the souls of the dead to escape. As for why she'd wait this long, well, as far as I recall, there hasn't been a major mage-related war this size in centuries and this war, which would involve a lot of summoning demons, would likely weaken the Veil, allowing it to be torn by those that seek to do so.TheSavage (talk) 18:14, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

Can in 1:22-1:26 of video [[1]] be The Inquisitor?78.8.148.255 (talk) 19:57, June 13, 2013 (UTC)