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Hey there.

In the game, I am currently doing Landsmeet, and I was just working through Loghain confrontation. I though I had everything as it should have been for Loghain to be forced to fight me one on one, Alistair staying a Warden, and Anora becoming Queen after she backs me up.

However, in the conversation with Anora I told her there is no chance for Loghain to live, that he has to pay for his crimes, and I guess that's what made her go all female dog on me, and she betrayed me at the Landmeet, causing me to fight Loghain's guards.

Now, I want to role-play my character, and after something like that I can't just make her Queen nonetheless. I romance Alistair unhardened, and if I make him the King, he will leave my elven mage. The whole purpose of this playthrough was to have a mage Warden stay with romanced Warden Alistair.

The conversation with Anora I had several hours of playing before, and since this is only one plot flag, I thought maybe it's possible to unflag it with the toolset. Thing is, I don't know anything about the toolset.

Could anyone point in the right direction? :) Henio0 (talk) 00:20, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Sadly, I can't help with anything particularly substantial, but maybe this is the general direction you were asking for. -Algol- (talk) 00:29, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Ah, nevermind, anyway. I get the Out of memory glitch when the program hits about 3.4 GB of RAM usage. I only got 4, so I guess the save file is too complex.

Damn, I will have replay through Alienage, Blackstone Irregulars, some Orzammar, Mages Collective and Crime Wave because of this stupid b-word wanting to protect her criminal of a father.

I mean, she lied to my face that she'd support me. The lying scum. But still, so many playtrhoughs and DAO still suprises me. Henio0 (talk) 01:19, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Don't worry it happened to me as well and I had to do all this over again. So I can understand how you feel :P Viktoria Landers 01:26, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Best thing to do is throw her under the bus first. Before you go into the landsmeet you talk with her and tell her that you will support her bid for the throne. Now when the landsmeet occurs she will back you in saying that her daddy is a bit crazy. There, you have her support. Now here is where the fun really takes place. When they ask you who you think should take the throne. You can choose Alister and watch the steam shoot out of Anora's ears. I got a good laugh out of it. Have fun! GreyWolf84 (talk) 05:13, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

I did the same as the post above me. My reason for betraying that b**** is because she betrayed me first and got me thrown in Fort Drakon. I was just returning the favor. Emmalee (talk) 05:38, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Try taking out all the stabby tools out of a toolset. See how she manages to stab you with a wrench...although...knowing other words, I have nothing useful to contribute. :-) Dorquemada (talk) 08:11, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

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It's not betrayal. It's politics. Though when I did it. I knew just by how she sounded in conversation that she was very much her father's daughter. So I used that to my advantage. First play through of Origins I pulled that and holy crap I danced in the puddle of her tears when she realized that not only did I read her playbook, I wrote the damn thing. GreyWolf84 (talk) 10:47, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

No, it is betrayal. I made a deal with her that I'd support her, she agreed, and was all nice to me and whatnot. I asked her some questions,and one of them was about Loghain; she wanted to make him go unpunished, so I told her that there is no way - and she agreed. But during the Landmseet she came and suddenly went on to say that my Warden slundered the name of hero of Ferelden. This led Loghain to call me, Alistair, and Arl Eamon traitors and call for execution. And she just stood there, watching.

So, yeah, this is just bitchiness, not politics.

Also, I did mention that the whole reason for the playthrough is to make Alistair a romanced Warden, for I have never done that. I can't achieve either romance nor Wardeness if I make him unhardened king, can I? Henio0 (talk) 11:50, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Don't you get that achievement when you bed him? I only romanced him once, and my Warden even was "Okay, fine" when he stuttered about a break-up after Landsmeet, but I had the achievement. Dorquemada (talk) 15:21, January 28, 2013 (UTC)
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