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Warden fights Hawke. Who wins? --Isolationistmagi (talk) 22:47, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know how peaple go about these questions without a Poll --PierceTheTruth

I know everyones gonna shit on my bonfire for this , but Hawke , I mean there both probably about the same they've both killed highdragons and shit , but Hawke's default attack speed is somewhat quicker , so he's bitchkick the warden all the way to Hogwarts.

Hawke, his DPS is higher than the Warden's. And when he uses an upgraded "Assassinate" it is in fact what the definition of "Button Awesome" is. Or if you are Mage-y Hawke doesn't have to telegraph his powerful attacks and doesn't shimmy-poke orbs at anyone. And Hawke killed an absurd amount of Blood Mages, and Blood Magic is ridiculously overpowered, along with pretty much every mage in DA2 that uses that orb of light attack that just annihilates everything. Most importantly Hawke doesn't have to stop in the middle of battle and get someone a ladder so they can get off his back. But the two will never fight, they will see each others battle prowess, then have sex instead. Tommyspa (talk) 23:29, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

I would say, it really depends on what class Hawke and the Warden belong to, cos for example while my rogue-archer Warden might not be so resistant against magic attack, she would probably stealth and kill Hawke from a distance. But if we simply talk about comparing skills and such, then I would say that the Warden wins, because by the end of Witch Hunt your Warden will be around level 35 and have at least 3 but most likely 4 specializations and optionally 2 unique powers. Hawke on the other hand is only around level 25 at the end of DA2 (for now), and only got 2 specializations, and has no unique skills. And from a story-telling point, the Warden has far more experience in battle than Hawke does.--SunyiNyufi (talk) 01:27, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Not neccesiarly (I know I can't spell,) to take your example of a rogue vs. mage, if say that mage were an Arcane Warrior the rogue wouldn't be able to the armour (not a spelling mistake, I'm Canadian eh) well enough to defeat them in blow and the Mage would quickly gain the upper hand. It depends more on how the class fights rather the class itself.96.48.173.229 (talk) 07:04, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

The problem with your example is that technically mage Hawke can't be an Arcane Warrior. But even so by lvl 35 an archer Warden already has 2-3 bows with very decent armor penetration. So all in all I still say that since the Warden has more specializations, skills and talents, so he/she would still win.--SunyiNyufi (talk) 11:39, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

For my canon Hawke and Warden. Warden. Hawke is a pretty powerful maleficar yes but the Warden...is pretty much only surrpassed by Flemmeth (because she cheated death. Hey, the Warden hasa reason to kill Hawke now.)96.48.173.229 (talk) 01:58, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

To be clear I said my as in mine own canon as in the game saves I'm going to play first for every Dragon Age game I can.96.48.173.229 (talk) 02:02, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

In my opinion i think that as most people said the warden will win because my dalish warrior theron is a lvl 35 and if he does golems of amgarrak who knows and my hawke finished at lvl 27adding 2dlcs and that didnt make him have a higher lvl either...

Well let's see hawke would stand out in the middle of the battle ground waiting for the enemy to jump out at him, while the warden would sneak up and fire either an arrow or fire ball at his head, possibly a fiery arrow...assuming hawke had the health to survive that as a warrior he would have no ranged weapon and die before closing the gap.

Though hawke might be so tired from the random ambushes every 5 seconds on the way to the battle he might just collapse from fatigue once it starts.174.45.9.40 (talk) 11:26, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

The OP seems to love this betting thing - the qunari vs dwarves, elves vs humans, Hawke vs Warden (round 42), but those pair-ups are always so booooooring and mundane. Why does no one ever comes up with, say, Dagna vs murder knife? The corpse Javaris cannot take boots off of vs Childer Grub? Ser Wesley's shield vs Wanka? Dorquemada (talk) 17:32, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

I do enjoy it, yes. I much prefer the theorizing forums, however. I just haven't seen any that have piqued my interest recently. You take what you get, right? --Isolationistmagi (talk) 20:24, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Warden. Each of them killed demons, darkspawn, high dragons and powerful mages, but the Warden killed the Archdemon and stopped a Blight in one year. That's like an world record of awesome. And around the time of Witch Hunt, two years after the Blight, the Warden is Lvl 35 while 7 years after it Hawke is 21, 23.

Mandalore 17:51, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Warden, no question. The Warden has the benefit of 10 extra levels(give or take), 2 extra specializations, and the specializations Arcane Warrior, Spirit Warrior, and Legionnaire scout among the classes, not to mention Vigilance, the Sentinel armor set, the spellward/high regard of house dace/andruils blessing/key to the city/lifegiver, as well as power of blood abilities. Hawke is a mighty warrior, but his arsenal and combat capabilities pale in comparison.

The Warden. He wouldn't even have to fight. He'd just call in his ol' buddy Oghren The Magnificent, who would smite Hawk with his +5 Beard of Badass, then mount his glorious Mabari Chariot and run through Kirkwall, leveling buildings in a rampage of drunken awesomeness. After floating three kegs. Spectaculous. 98.198.53.85 (talk) 02:26, October 31, 2011 (UTC) (MathiasAmon)

If you consider the Warden before Awakening vs Hawke now (after MotA), they are pretty close (lv30). The Warden became godly during Awakening with the new abilities and items. In terms of gameplay Hawke is more squishy than the Warden who was a real powerhouse with 100%dodge, 100%magic resistance, high armor, etc. But it seems Bioware is starting to correct that through items packs and addons (thanks to MotA rogues can have also over 50% damage resistance). (Almahnsor (talk) 04:33, November 2, 2011 (UTC))

The answer is obvious. The Warden would destroy Hawke. By the time Hawke ends his indentured servitude to the mercenaries or the smugglers, The Warden is like level 33 and heading towards Amgarrak with Jerrik. Hawke is only like level 5. By the end of DA2(which is 7 years) Hawke is around level 22. Who knows how much stronger the Warden became during those seven years. The Warden is far more experienced than Hawke and probably the most powerful person on all of Thedas. I have no problems with Hawke but he is a rookie when he starts his journey while The Warden is already a seasoned veteran at the same time Hawke is starting his journey.--Vincent Cousland (talk) 11:33, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Everyone's thinking about this in lvl/game wise, but is it weird I'm thinking of things in a real life type situation? Hawke is powerful, but the Warden is equally as so, if not even more so. Being a warden means fighting just about all the time(against darkspawn,people,dragons,etc) and since becoming a Warden in Origins all you did for that time period was fight. When Hawke comes along, it's established that yes they do possess fighting skills but even at the end of the game when 6 years have passed, I still can't see Hawke beating the Warden. Idk, I guess I imagine my Warden during all of those years still continuing to protect Ferelden, and being extremely powerful. Being Warden Commander, doesn't mean being the strongest person in the world, but it holds some bearing to how strong you will become. I see it as, if Hawke and the Warden were to meet under any circumstances, and fight, Hawke wouldn't stand a chance because the Warden has slain and fought many strong enemies even stronger than Hawke, so Hawke wouldn't be the first nor the last to be defeated. Hawke's defeated the Arishok, and Meredith but it still wouldn't compare to what the Warden has conquered. That's just my opinion though.--Tsukahime (talk) 20:02, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

In my case, it would be the Warden (Sword and Shield Champion/Berserker/Guardian) vs. Hawke (2-Handed Reaver/Berserker). It'd be a case of length: Hawke would have to quickly subdue the Warden - the longer the fight drags on, the more it leans in the Warden's favor. Résumé-wise, the Warden is far more accomplished. DAWUSS (talk) 20:27, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Ooh, not a very tough choice for me. My Elven Mage Warden would whoop my Mage Hawke's ass! See, my warden is much more experienced and a much better fight than Hawke. And I love my Warden so much he would have his own cheer squad! DragonEffect1710 (talk) 01:25, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Easy enough. My Warden would be to busy shuffling into perfect position while My Mage Hawke would pick the Warden up in his mage/fade hands and rend him apart.Croc484 (talk) 02:29, November 8, 2011 (UTC)Croc484