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:Oooh, didn't know about the Irish mythology/history link. But it makes even more sense for him to be called Cormac now. Since Morrigan is also a name linked to Irish mythology it seems fitting that her child would also carry a name with the same origin/links. But that story about his conception as well, very familiar... [[File:DeakialSig1.png|100px|link=User:ACdeakial]] 14:19, October 5, 2014 (UTC)
 
:Oooh, didn't know about the Irish mythology/history link. But it makes even more sense for him to be called Cormac now. Since Morrigan is also a name linked to Irish mythology it seems fitting that her child would also carry a name with the same origin/links. But that story about his conception as well, very familiar... [[File:DeakialSig1.png|100px|link=User:ACdeakial]] 14:19, October 5, 2014 (UTC)
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Forums: Index > Game DiscussionGUYS SUPER WARNING! - INQUISITION SPOILERS WITHIN
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apparently some of our Russian Friends have the Artbook early and tons of MAJOR spoilers are in it i do have one picture but I will not put up the web page if you really want said image i dont know how I can put it on here without ruining it for a few in my SAW voice THE CHOICE IS YOURZZZ!!!!Star Metal Knight (talk) 15:39, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Found it... I wouldn't say any of it was majorly spoilery, unless I'm looking at different pictures to you. But yeah, I definitely wouldn't advise looking at them if you don't want to know anything spoilery. Also, we could link the image of the mounts. As I found that very interesting and it wasn't really spoiling anything... DeakialSig1 15:54, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

The BSN thread about is closed but it is on reddit. There is a HUGE spoiler in one of them. Supergodzilla118 (talk) Supergodzilla118 16:04, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

I guess you guys can post your links then let them decide hahahahahahStar Metal Knight (talk) 16:15, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

I WANT EM!!!!!! NOW!!!!!!!!!!--DaveManiac3 16:17, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

I can't link it but there is a thread on reddit it about it Dave Supergodzilla118 (talk) Supergodzilla118 16:21, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

STAR LINKING SPOILER IMAGES IS A BAD THING HERE. Supergodzilla118 (talk) Supergodzilla118 16:23, October 3, 2014 (UTC)



This section contains spoilers for:
Dragon Age: Inquisition.


33.media.tumblr.com/ae4fd7086ca593cde37d8cf1406d8274/tumblr_ncve37Mleb1rpyjf2o1_1280.jpg - (Spoiler Image)

31.media.tumblr.com/89d7b426a59e47cac0d743bc00d319fc/tumblr_ncuwvt4eaH1qjfirdo1_500.jpg - Dagna's DAI concept art

i.4cdn.org/vg/1412348568636.jpg - Something wierd... (possibly spoiler)

i.4cdn.org/vg/1412348736402.jpg - Possibly mount concept art

i.4cdn.org/vg/1412348883094.jpg - Blackwall concept art

I won't make links of them just in case people don't want to see it, and click the link by accident. But their there for people if they want them. DeakialSig1 16:26, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Baaah nothing spoilery... dunno why all the fuzz... spoilers would be what the story is about and how it would develop. From this we know the OGB is in the game... we knew that already so and the Dagna pic is also old news. Meeeh.--DaveManiac3 16:26, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

OGB is new since we have not heard about that yet. This is still spoilery to some that don't want to be spoiled. Supergodzilla118 (talk) Supergodzilla118 16:29, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
When Morrigan was announced I knew OGB wasn't far behind... so yeah no news for me on that front--DaveManiac3 16:32, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
Think you two should maybe avoid specific terms.... DeakialSig1 16:33, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Can I just be the first to say that Schmooples seemed to have evolved into Schmoopledon...

Also, here's the Imgur album, has what we've already seen, and also seems to be getting updated with really early concept art, seems Blackwall was originally planned to be a dwarf... imgur.com/a/hvbwP#0 DeakialSig1 18:15, October 3, 2014 (UTC)


Changed the thread name to explicitly warn of spoilers. Chantry symbol King Cousland | Talk   17:05, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

These aren't spoilers. That is just concept art for one of many possible OGBs. Theoretically, there is one OGB for Alistair, one for Loghain, and countless versions depending on how the male Hero looked if he impregnated Morrigan. The only sort-of spoiler is Dagna and her... political affiliation. Believe it! (talk) 17:31, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

The likelihood is that that is in fact the child's appearance regardless of father. Morrigan clearly has the stronger genetics, a likely possibility considering Yavana looks like Morrigan. DeakialSig1 17:42, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah but since when have in-game characters actually matched their concept art? Believe it! (talk) 18:24, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
Very rarely, I was just pointing out the likelihood of the child having the same appearance regardless of father. I think its guaranteed he'll have black hair and yellow eyes like his mother. DeakialSig1 18:28, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Huh that person almost looks like MorriiiiO HOLY SHIT!--Jdgjordan (talk) 17:35, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

After seeing picture of Solas with hair I think they made the right choice with making him bald. Also to agree with King Cousland, it seems like Blackwall started as a dwarf, Sera started as a human, and there was another female elf rogue instead of Varric. And I say that last part because the only companion missing in that picture is Iron Bull. The Dread Wolf 18:10, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

That was actually me, forgot to sign the post... Also, Dorian seemed to be modelled after a rockstar...(that is apparently the way the book describes him) DeakialSig1 18:15, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
Oh sorry about that, lol. Also a person on tumbler also has the book (also Russian) and she posted pictures of Empress Celene and Gaspard, who both look like the definition of Orlesian fashion lol The Dread Wolf
Yeah, I've seen those, she is the source of the leak as well, I believe. I'm waiting for someone to post something more spoilery to be honest though. Not too big, just something to keep satisfied until Inquisition day comes around. They look interesting, I thought Celene would look a bit older though, but it is just concept art. Gaspard looks like he should have a hawk or a falcon on his arm... and a comb for his mustache. DeakialSig1 18:37, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
I agree. I like seeing the art but I was expecting more spoilery stuff as well. Celene looks extra pale compared to Gaspard but I'm guessing it's make up. I would like to see concept art of characters related to each Inquisitor like family members of the dwarf and human, clan members of the elf, and mercenary/family if any of the qunari. And more mounts The Dread Wolf 18:48, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Saw these earlier elsewhere. I really hate when people don't have the courtesy to warn you when they do that. I would have preferred not to have known about the OGB.--Wsowen02 (talk) 18:35, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Why not? I trully don't see an issue with it. --DaveManiac3 18:39, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
I just find it more fun to see that thing for the first time as the devs intended.--Wsowen02 (talk) 19:06, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Morrigan's son has a predefined name (I actually asked Gaider about this, and no, the player does not get to chose it), so the fact that there is concept art of him, if he exists, isn't that surprising. Again, not really much of a spoiler IMO that he might be in the game -- if the Dark Ritual is preformed or not is probably the biggest choice in Origins... That said, her son's appearance might morph slightly depending on the father (he could technically be half-dwarf, afterall), but her son looking like a male Morrigan isn't that surprising, either. Lavellan (talk)

if a dwarf or elf produce a child with a human then the child will look human. Caspoi (talk) 20:07, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
A dwarf and human union will create a half-dwarf, shorter than a human, taller than a dwarf.Aedan Amell (talk) 18:13, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

I do not see why it has to be the old god baby at all and I do not know who was there to the left of him. Caspoi (talk) 20:06, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

The description makes it clear Morrigan is depicted and then refers to the child as "Morrigan's son". Chantry symbol King Cousland | Talk   20:21, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
not to mention the kid does look like boyish morrigan, and has a Grey warden crest on his necklace, and remember OGB will always (unless Bioware says otherwise) have a grey warden for a Dad, either Loghain, Alistair, or our Warden--Jcama (talk) 20:26, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
I don't speak Russian (which I presume the language is in) so I could just go on the pictures. Caspoi (talk) 23:32, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

To the idea of the child having the same appearance regardless of the father, that would just be lazy. I think people who did the deed with Morrigan would feel cheated, and as if their Hero was further pushed out of the storyline as his genes aren’t even recognized.

Where is the picture of Celene I? Anyone have a link?

About the child, the art could be of the OG child or the child without the OG soul. I think that’s what Caspoi was getting at. It could also just be concept art and nothing more. So I don’t think that’s a spoiler really. Him having a predefined name sort of makes sense. It is Morrigan who would name him. You could argue that Morrigan would name him whatever WE would name him, but then you have the problem of no one referring to him by name again. So I’m okay with the name being picked for us, just so long as the appearance will be custom based on who the father is. I also agree that he basically just looks like a young male Morrigan, or perhaps a “less feminine” looking Morrigan would be more accurate. The kid looks like a wuss. Varos Amell would not be pleased. Believe it! (talk) 21:55, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

In all fairness making the kid look more like morrigan rather than the father, at such a young age isn't lazy. It's the sensible option for Bioware to take, since there is already the possibility of a Hawke character customization appearing in Inquisition. I for one don't want to have to do that three times in one playthrough, especially given how detailed it is, and I don't want to have to customize the appearance of a child, that just seems a step too far IMO, and way too pedantic.
Saying that though, the kids got the soul of Urthemiel, the dragon of beauty in him (of course he'd look like a wuss), and surely there would be some magical method for the old god to morph his appearance to what he desires, or at the very least an explanation. And for the possible "there was a kid despite the ritual" epilogue, BW will have to deal with that a different way. All I want to see, if he does actually appear, is for someone to say "he doesn't look anything like his father". If he appears again at a later date, where he is older, that is when I would like to be able to alter his appearance to reflect who his father was. Also, I don't see why we should have any say on the child's name, Morrigan raises him alone up until, at least, witch hunt. By which time, he should have a name already.
Also here's a link to the tumblr page where there is celene and Gaspard... ladykleo.tumblr.com/ DeakialSig1 22:37, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
Don't really want to turn this into an OGB thread, but I'd be perfectly satisfied with both the OGB's appearance and name being set for us. The boy does not exist simply as an appendage of the Warden - he is a character in his own right and while it's good to see something coming of the choice to do the Dark Ritual, the child should not be simply a way to remind players of the Warden's existence, nor should he be the Warden Mk. II. Now, as for the name - I quite like Cormac, after the hero who supposedly defeated Flemeth and her daughters all those centuries ago. Chantry symbol King Cousland | Talk   23:16, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
Is that his name then? Cormac? DeakialSig1 23:19, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
Cormac is very fitting considering it's a Gaelic Name meaning "Impure Son". B.S.S.T. (talk) 23:32, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
And just what KC said, it's a good foreshadowing too. I am not too thrilled about seeing his concept art, though I don't think just because they included the concept art for him he's gonna be fully present in the game. Or at least, I hope he won't have such a role that he'd be forced on anyone who doesn't want to see him. As for customizing him, I'd actually find it fun, since character creation is one of the things I like doing most in Dragon Age. But I can see how tedious it'd get if you were to customize your Inquisitor, your Hawke, then your OGB to your liking. Then again it still could be implemented with the choice to keep his original appearance, which I personally like by the way. --Margerard is a Dragon Age Wiki Editor 00:24, October 4, 2014 (UTC)
Oh, I was only saying I thought Cormac would be a good choice, Deakial. I know as little about what he'll actually be called as everybody else Tonguesmiley Chantry symbol King Cousland | Talk   13:56, October 5, 2014 (UTC)
Ah man... I agree though, that name would be most fitting, I like what marge said as well. Cormac... It's a precursor of what may come, and a hint at what his destiny may be. Damn it, I want to know his name now. I don't think any other name would suit him better, except maybe Urthemiel... since you know... DeakialSig1 14:05, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

MY SON..erm I mean my Warden's son! Wow man, the fruits are springing from my choices. You legend. Lazare326 00:14, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

I doubt they would let him be customizable, seeing as you still have to take Morrigans appearance in account. Caspoi (talk) 01:01, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

To be fair, a lot of concept art remains as just....concepts. So most of that wasn't really a spoiler. Also remember, he doesn't belong to anyone BUT Morrigan. That was the deal with the Dark Ritual. So if she has a son with a warden and gives him a terrible name, go ahead and blame her. --Dbiznaz (talk) 03:00, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

What kind of fggty suit as the ogb. I hope those gloves have a meaning, but those shoes... must be orleasian.--Damx (talk) 12:43, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

Yes! It seems tight and restricting, so it would be very fggty in that a kid his age would be fidgety while wearing it. It's also like a fig, seemingly insignificant or worthless, or a dress. It's also quite the figment, or invention of imagination. Haven't seen anything like it really. Though it is close to a figurant, which would make sense as Orlais is known for theater, such as opera and probably ballet as well. Though the style seems more suited to a figurante, a female ballet dancer, you're right that it could be figurative in terms of being symbolic. You make a good point about the gloves in that respect. They probably do have meaning, like the amulet. The character is quite figured in that he is covered or adorned with figures; symbolized; pictured; indicated by figures. So yes, good observations Damx. Believe it! (talk) 21:53, October 4, 2014 (UTC)
  • applauds* - Wandrew (talk) 04:54, October 5, 2014 (UTC)
I wrote fggty to be understandable to some, and cryptic to others. In other words, that's not an appropriate way to dress a kid IMHO. But today preteens get to change their sex because apparently they can already tell what they like so I should shut up eh, the dragon age fanbase is sensible.--Damx (talk) 13:41, October 5, 2014 (UTC)
I realise you probably didn't intend to offend, but I'd ask that you refrain from using language like that in the future. Not only is it against our guidelines, but has huge potential to start a flame war. Let's discontinue this line of discussion now. Chantry symbol King Cousland | Talk   14:07, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

I'll start a new comment string here, but I want to point out that if the OGB's name really is Cormac, then not only is it a nod toward the DA lore about Cormac, it's also a nod toward Cormac mac Airt, legendary High King of Ireland (who may or may not be real). Cormac mac Airt was conceived on the eve of a great battle by the High King and a woman who was offered to him as... comfort and stress relief, I guess (that's where his name comes from: corb=defilement, mac=son, in other words, he's a bastard). His mother had a vision while she was sleeping with Cormac's father (King Art mac Cuinn). Her dream prophesied the death of Art mac Cuin and the life and eventual death of Cormac. Cormac was also raised by wolves for a while before he was reunited with his real mother. --Death by Cheese (talk) 03:32, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

WOW!!!!! THATS SUPER AWESOME STORY Irellay looks forwand to Cormacs career with great intrest in my emperor palpatine voice lolStar Metal Knight (talk) 14:17, October 5, 2014 (UTC)
Oooh, didn't know about the Irish mythology/history link. But it makes even more sense for him to be called Cormac now. Since Morrigan is also a name linked to Irish mythology it seems fitting that her child would also carry a name with the same origin/links. But that story about his conception as well, very familiar... DeakialSig1 14:19, October 5, 2014 (UTC)
How about baby Mordred? :)--67.162.215.80 (talk) 17:28, October 6, 2014 (UTC)


could someone translete wat it says at the bottom of morrgian and old god baby i wonder how he acts 96.253.83.221 (talk) 19:03, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

It just talks about their clothes. All that is written about the OGB is that he is in "Orlesian attire." No details about his personality or role in the story. Chantry symbol King Cousland | Talk   19:13, October 5, 2014 (UTC)


wait is he with morrigan at the castle with the empress or is he at "home" also is there a reason that moriigan looks like she in winter clothes

No one can answer where he is exactly to be honest, and we don't know for certain that he will appear either, since all we have seen is concept art. But with the way he is dressed its a reasonable assumption to say he is in the castle with Morrigan and Celene, or at the very least in Orlais. The winter clothes I assume are concepts for Morrigans robes, possibly original concepts that did not make it into Origins, but I can't say for certain. Maybe they are winter clothes, maybe they're what she wore after the final battle in denerim when she traveled through the mountains. DeakialSig1 21:53, October 5, 2014 (UTC)