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Are you satisfied about ending of Gaider's comic series? I'm not, 2 years spent on seeking a man just to kill him. I wanted Maric to tell Alistair about Fiona and it didn't happened.78.8.152.230 (talk) 21:58, May 31, 2013 (UTC) Just call me Dalish fan

I definitely wasn't happy about this kind of bleak ending but I saw how it made sense in the context of the Dragon Age setting, which is still defined as dark fantasy, a subversion of traditional idealistic fantasy, where for every inspiring moment (Alistair convincing Maric to come back to him), there is a gut punch right afterwards. I am pretty sure the ending was supposed to remind us of that. The last issue still felt rushed, though. And as for Fiona, there is actually ever less evidence that she is Alistair's biological mother. --Koveras Alvane (talk) 05:14, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

Fiona's case was thing I wanted to hear from Maric the most. But to be honest I don't believe Alistair is her son, I think he has another long lost brother and dates in DA:WoT are enough for me to be certain about that.78.9.0.93 (talk) 08:29, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

Yes it does. It's an ending. Finally. -Algol- (talk) 22:07, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

It's a no win situation for the writers...if they had added in some huge twist/revelation fans would have cried foul that it happened in a non game source, now by not doing that though some fans are upset that the story seemed pointless. Personally I enjoyed the story, i enjoyed getting a bit of insight into Isabella and Varic so yes, the ending does satisfy me

Of course we could also retake the ending again. --Tabris.the.great (talk) 23:37, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, we should probably make a habit of retaking the endings that the original authors screwed up. :D --Koveras Alvane (talk) 17:32, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

And tell them "Noli manere in memoria", meaning "Don't remain in memory".62.87.129.201 (talk) 17:45, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

--Nayr1000

David Gaider once said that the date of the Calling, 9:15 Dragon, was an error in editing. Must have slipped through when they put WoT together. Dragon Age Origins places Maric allowing the Wardens back into Ferelden as 20 years prior to the game, which takes place in 9:30 Dragon. And Alistair was born in 9:10 according to WoT, the same year The Calling actually happened.

I also asked David Gaider via twitter if UWS was a confirmation or denial of Alistair's mother. He replied without a straight answer and said it can be interpreted in different ways and that it depends on how up-to-date on recent events we believe Maric to be. So he may just be assuming Fiona is dead/gone.

But there's also the fact that Fiona made Maric promise to tell their son that his mother was human and was dead. And Maric's not the sort to break his promises, no matter how much time has passed.

The parallels between Fiona's son and Alistair are too close to ignore. Born in the same year, promised to be raised outside of the court to not interfere with Cailan's birthright or be made a political pawn, and the whopper, Duncan promised to keep the boy safe and watch over him(Gaider confirmed that Duncan knew who Alistair was before he recruited him. And Alistair tells the Warden that Duncan kept Alistair out of the fighting because of it.)

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Before the timeline correction I was pretty much convinced Alistair was not Fiona's . However with the calling and his birth happening in the same year inst it unlikely that Maric had another child that year wasn't he gone most of it with the grey wardens? Of coarse then there's the matter of where Goldanna fits in she seems to remember a child her mother had by the king and certainly Fiona isn't her mother. In short im confused as ever.--Azkalani (talk) 21:41, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

DO what I do, believe in what you want to believe. I still believe that AListair isn't Fiona's son, because I don't believe it would be otherwise. Isn't it a coincidence that one child is born and another dies during own birth after so short time? I think it is.78.8.139.140 (talk) 22:08, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

75.206.85.189 (talk) 19:00, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Gaider screws and screws timeline again and again, he's not trustworthy. Why should we believe him after he made awful plot for comic that solves nothing? People believe in what they want to believe, I don't believe Alistair is Fiona's son and I don't want to believe that. DA:Wot claiming Ali was born in 9:10 and Architect's plan was foiled in 9:14 is enough for me. We all are tired of the writers' mistakes, DA:Calling and ME:Deception are examples of annoying mistakes. You sound like you hadn't read DA:Asunder, Fiona is alive.62.87.129.201 (talk) 20:10, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Umm, we should believe Gaider because he wrote the character. And given how much he seems to like the Therin family, I'm sure we haven't seen the end of this mystery yet. And the WoT timeline is full of mistakes, so I wouldn't go taking that as definitive proof just yet.--166.147.123.47 (talk) 14:13, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

Why did you have to do that? Why do you just have to get in the way of nice people happily bitching about things with your stupid rational arguments? --Koveras Alvane (talk) 15:55, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry (that was me above, posting from my phone), but more bad news (or good, if you're like me). A new, in character, Bioware blog confirms that the events of the calling take place in 9:10 as well as correcting certain other mistakes in the WoT timeline. [1] .--Liam Sionnach (talk) 20:14, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

I think it might be time to take it as red that Fiona is Alistair's mother. That or Maric was one busy boy in 9:9/9:10.....--MichelleAnn85 (talk) 08:05, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

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The god-awful mess is over. Yes, it's very satisfying, and I hope DA never has to suffer this kind of thing again. EzzyD (talk) 17:28, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

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I think what's more important is that ultimately, the events of the comics can play out offscreen even if Alistair and Sten aren't alive/promoted/coronated at the end of one's personal playthrough. The Qunari could easily besiege Ath Velanis on their own and put a stop to Titus, which results in Maric's death anyway. No retcons, no loose ends except maybe Yavana, and despite what people may think of it, Gaider got to play out his little what-if scenario without undoing the players' choices.

Moving on, it was nice to know Maric didn't fully reject Alistair, maybe this will give him the validation to be a good king. RShepard227 (talk) 22:32, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

"Not fully reject Alistair"? IIRC he pretty much told him Alistair makes a better king than himself. ;D --Koveras Alvane (talk) 06:10, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

It seems to me that Maric was very willing to embrace Alistair if you ask me. As for the ending, to be honest, anyone who didn't see Alistair having to kill Maric as a matter of mercy is a bit daft to be honest. It was painted there on the first issue of UWS. I wanted to see more about how it really affect's Alistair though. I did feel for Alistair at the end, he's spent his whole life thinking he was a mistake and unwanted by his father and family and he discovers that he's not, he gets the chance to find out more and nope, it's lost. I actually want him to discover who his mother is to be honest, just to give him a bit of closure. --MichelleAnn85 (talk) 08:05, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

I can totally see how Alistair finally finds his mother, whoever that is, and has to mercy-kill her too :) Tough luck, nuff said. -Algol- (talk) 20:18, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

It seems you forgot than one he believes to be his mother is dead and if Fiona is his biological mother, then I also want him to kill her like Lelouch killed his parents for abandoning him [[2]] and I mentioned it in opening of Forum:Alistair getting dark?.78.8.139.140 (talk) 20:53, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

Open interpretation is still no answer to me.156.17.71.249 (talk) 08:38, June 6, 2013 (UTC)