Forum:Did anyone catch the Oberyn mountain fight?

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after that we need polearm users like that not just mage staffs but i can think of alot of great moves just in that set alone verity like whip swords and katars or gloves anyone elseStar Metal Knight (talk) 00:45, June 6, 2014 (UTC)

And where is Oberyn now? Burning in Seven Hells, that's where. Believe it! (talk) 14:52, June 6, 2014 (UTC)

What's with the Oberyn hostility XD, he's one of the most skilled fighters in Westeros, and on top of that it's his emotions and desire for revenge that led to his downfall. Hey metal, I've been advocating for spear battle styles like that. It was masterfully choreographed, especially in the time Pedro was given, and the mages fighting in DA2 was pretty similar, but we could just add stabbing and the whole athletic style behind it. 15:04, June 6, 2014 (UTC)

I agree he lost due to his thirst for vengeance, and maybe it had a little to do with pride as well, but I always hated that character. He swore to be Tyrion's champion, but he didn't fight like one. He agreed to that match for the wrong reasons and actually helped condemn Tyrion by doing so. I know things work out, but still, Oberyn was a detestable character in every way. Believe it! (talk) 15:21, June 6, 2014 (UTC)

I think the main motive of the view is your opinion. YOU find him detestable whilst a lot of others don't. Had he not vouched to be Tyrion's champion, nobody else would have, and they'd have little change of defeating the behemoth Gregor Clegane. On top of that, he views his bastards as equal as those nobles view their heirs. Do you blame him for wanting revenge? The guy murdered his sister, and his nephew and niece, he wanted a confession, he got it, and now Tywin's pants are all messy as a result of it.Back on topic anyways, in regards to your comment below, it's not just a dagger on a pole. Spears come in all shapes and forms and, they allow fast movement, distance related combat and if in the right agile hands, a spear can be readily effective against all enemies. *Looks at Oberyn* 19:32, June 6, 2014 (UTC)

Can we try and keep this DA-focused, please? King Cousland | Talk   16:09, June 6, 2014 (UTC)

My point is that a spear isn't that great of a weapon, especially for DA:I. It's basically just a dagger on a pole. I mean, they could still have it in the game, it's just not all that great. A Halberd would be better, and they could program the move sets to be roughly the same for both weapons. In the case of a spear, I would say make it low damage, moderate speed, and those who use it dodge most melee attacks thanks to distance advantage. Believe it! (talk) 18:15, June 6, 2014 (UTC)

Might want to mark a topic like this with spoiler warnings. I mean really, the episode aired less than a week ago. Silver Warden (talk) 19:18, June 6, 2014 (UTC)

The topic has "Oberyn", "Mountain", and "fight" in the title. What need have we of spoiler alerts then? Believe it! (talk) 22:05, June 6, 2014 (UTC)

but some of the weapons in Dragon Age as a hole are unrealistic in combat. theres some really big swords. i have a few real ones that can honestly be only used for display yet they can swing and carry them like they are a wooden bat it would be a nice change of pace some people like the different fighting styles hell even the Qunari were throwing them at us move # 1 haha Star Metal Knight (talk) 20:25, June 6, 2014 (UTC)

I agree that some DA weapons are unrealistic, which is why a spear pales in comparison. Spears are good in real life, but not in a fantasy/adventure game like DA. Game of Thrones is more like real life than fantasy/adventure, and I think DA is way better than GoT. Believe it! (talk) 22:05, June 6, 2014 (UTC)

ASOIF is very "different" from real life. In fact, i'd go as far to say tha ASOIF has is just as far out from reality as Dragon Age is, on the lore level, having read the books especially, in fact, ASOIF has more fantasy in it then the DA series to say the least. That obviously doesn't make it better in any way. Spears would work in the DA universe. Heck we had staffs in DA2 and if we could use spears in that manner, slicing people rather than "poking" them all the time, it'd work. But to say GoT is more like real life than fantasy is a bold assertion. I -like you- love the DA universe just as much as you, but I seriously see it working. 23:12, June 6, 2014 (UTC)

To your first post, I found Oberyn detestable because he was detestable in every way. That's my motive. Who cares if he stood as Tyrion's champion? He only did it to get a stab at the Mountain, not because he liked Tyrion or believed in him. Did you see at the wedding reception Oberyn said "hello", and Tyrion said hello back, then Oberyn said "not you"? He was saying it to some exotic contortionist. What a jerk. And he failed to kill Gregor anyway despite being able to easily. He was supposed to be there to win Tyrion's freedom. So what if he views his bastards as nobles view their legitimate children? If he were a real man he would not make them bastards in the first place. Yes I blame him for wanting revenge. He should have wanted justice. He could have had both except that he lost it and Gregor killed him instead. So again, look where he is now. Head splattered like pigeon pie. Anyway, I know there are good spear designs out there, and if they have spears in DA:I then I hope they are well designed, but I'm just saying there are more impressive weapons out there that can be done. And again, I really don't think Oberyn is a good example to use, but this is coming from a man who watches kung fu movies with highly skilled weapon users and complex choreography.

I know it's different from real life, but it's more toward real life than fantasy/adventure. DA is more toward fantasy/adventure and just has real life elements. One obvious example is mages. Yeah there are, or were, some mages in that tower in GoT, but in DA mages are all over the place. Same with dragons. And the white walkers have nothing on the darkspawn or even the undead. In DA, dwarves are a race. In GoT, they're a sideshow. And I think the Fade and everything that comes with it put DA way beyond GoT in terms of fantasy/adventure. So while spears are appropriate for GoT, DA demands something extra. Again, I'm fine with having spears in DA:I, but make better weapons too in that case. Believe it! (talk) 01:31, June 7, 2014 (UTC)

Lazare, just ignore him.

Anyways, i think spears could be fun. I doubt it'd be like in ASOIF though. Oberyn's spear style is based mostly on concepts of Wushu, which has roots in the Orient. Dragon Age seems to have a very European feel to it. Granted, they used spears in European medieval warfare. But i think, i don't know for sure, but it was mostly in formation fighting. Where a small platoon of spear men had their spears sticking out to prevent the cavalry from charging into them, and i think they definitely had shields with them, as well as another one handed weapon of some kind. Point is, unless people are okay with mixing Asian elements in a decidedly European game (eh, debatable, because of the existence of Qunari, Rivain, and other decidedly non European cultures), don't think we'll see any Oberyn-esque spear fighting in games. 09:39, June 7, 2014 (UTC)

Spears are never fun in games. --Elshiro (talk) 02:05, June 7, 2014 (UTC)

Dragon Age isnt a game.... its a way of life!Star Metal Knight (talk) 03:15, June 7, 2014 (UTC)