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If a Dalish elf is going to be a companion in DAI, what would you like this one to be?

I wish the elf was an archer or a close combat rogue, I'm done with Dalish mages and rest of annoying repetitivity. My Inquisitor is going to be an elf, so it would be good to have relationship with own kind.78.8.156.250 (talk) 07:19, September 23, 2013 (UTC) Just call me Dalish fan

Because elven archer isn't an overused trope played straight. And we've never had a dual wielding elf, let alone rogue in Dragon Age. 14.201.65.88 (talk) 12:31, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

We had Zevran and Ariane as dual wielding elves. If a Dalish companion in DAI is going to appear, then I can imagine his/her rivalry with Varric about archery.78.8.156.250 (talk) 12:39, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

You really did not get my point at all. At all. 14.201.65.88 (talk) 15:53, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

Then write how I was supposed to understand it.78.8.156.250 (talk) 16:14, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

There's thousands of Elf Archers in fiction. Zevran and Ariane are Dual Wielding, Close Combat Elf Rogues. Hence, those things you just asked for to avoid things being repetitive are, in fact, repetitive. That is how you're supposed to understand it. --NinjaChocobo925 (talk) 16:31, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

There are thousands of Elven Archers in fiction because that is how they were originally envisioned. I'd enjoy an Elven Warrior, but the fact of the matter is: Elves are normally archers because this is what they excel at. Overused or not, it is simply how they are. Being disappointed at the lack of Elven Sword-n-Boards or Two-Handers would be like being disappointed at not seeing Dwarven long-jumpers in the Thedas Olympics. I'veDunmerHomework (talk) 20:46, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

If you read LOTR though there are elves that don't fight like that, like Glorfindel for example. --Sandals sandals (talk) 08:25, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

So, because Tolkien at one point thought it'd be neat to have elves be good at archery, we should keep it that way forever? At one point it's going to be a cliche, it may already be even.--Agent047 (talk) 20:50, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

In the old old myths of the British Isles, Elves were considered archers. I said nothing of Tolkien, but Elves have been envisioned to be mischevious (rogues) and normally using bows/arrows. Tolkien used the ancient myth of Elves as a starting point in creating what we now call "Tolkien-esque Elves." Even now when someone here finds an old arrow-head, if they remember the myths, they call them 'elf-shots' or 'elf-arrows.' Its part of myth, and maybe I'm a purist, but that is the only large-scale representation I'm willing to accept. Sure there are exceptions: Fenris, Zevran, Ariane, Tallis, Possibly The Warden, but for the most part, Elves are archers. I'm not against the idea of it being changed, but it'd have to be done well. I'veDunmerHomework (talk) 18:35, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

Myth about elves are even older. Vikings believed there are 9 realms, one of them belongs to humans and another one to elves.78.8.12.125 (talk) 18:40, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

Two for elves if you count SvartálfaheimrArkangel37 (talk) 23:15, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

Okay, so I was wrong about the source of elves being archers (though elves did become more popular because of Tolkien right?) but I still think that is no reason to keep portraying elves the same. Don't you get tired of elves really quickly then if you only like them one specific way? I'd have hard time staying interested in them.--Agent047 (talk) 21:06, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

I'd be satisfied if the elven companion had own unique fighting style like spear fighting.78.8.98.25 (talk) 21:04, September 25, 2013 (UTC)StubbornMageSlayer

May be they give us Josmael Elnawawi (talk) 14:45, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

Josamael is a fanfic character and DLC with Tallis was a fanservise of Felicia Day.78.8.98.25 (talk) 21:02, September 25, 2013 (UTC)StubbornMageSlayer

sorry for that, but I don't think that I know what you mean, what is "fanfic" ? and what the effect of that ? Elnawawi (talk) 00:48, September 27, 2013 (UTC)

Fanfic is fanfiction, or written fiction about a given series/universe generated by fans as opposed to the writers of the series/universe itself. He's saying that Josmael only came about as a character because of Felicia Day's Tallis character and Mark of the Assassin DLC (which were initiated by Felicia Day as a fan rather than a member of the DA team) and so he doesn't think of Josmael as a legitimate character because he wasn't generated of the writer's own volition. At least that's what I think he's trying to say. 14.201.65.88 (talk) 05:17, September 27, 2013 (UTC)StubbornMageSlayer

You, Anon understood everything perfectly.78.8.241.17 (talk) 07:14, September 27, 2013 (UTC)

Please, no more Dalish mages.78.9.148.79 (talk) 12:22, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

Merrill and Velanna were almost alike - exiled keeper's firsts because of different opinion. No more repetitivity like this.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 08:41, December 10, 2013 (UTC)

Personally, I'd like to see a Dalsih Like Ariane. I don't really care too much if they are Warrior. Rouge, or Mage. But I'd like Elves to be realistic and NOT romance Human Inquisitors since Lore says Elves typically would almost never dally with a Human, Dwarf, or Quanri. --Jamirflyd (talk) 22:06, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

Good point. Elves as mates of non-elves would be unrealistic. Romancable characters with tastes would be more realistic.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 22:09, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

@Spectre I agree. I would like more realistic romances. I wouldn't be against companions romancing each other as well as long as it is a logical pairing. --Jamirflyd (talk) 22:29, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

then it is possible for an elf to romance a human. it all depends on the personality and flow of the story and be warned if one of the elven mage backgrounds for the inquisitor is dalish the whole exiled from clan thing is what we might get.Thehumaneldar (talk) 23:32, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

WE had 2 exiled Dalish companions and both were Keepers' firsts. Let's hope we will have companions with more original background.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 08:10, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

While I doubt they'd do another Dalish, I wouldn't mind if he/she could romance a human. As long as they made reference to the fact that the elf character feels conflicted about their duty vs their love. I mean hell, for all the complaints about Dragon Age 2 that game at least made the Dalish Elf feel conflicted about romancing a human, the Dalish Warden just goes 'lol why not'. --TheRageMage (talk) 10:29, December 14, 2013 (UTC)TheRageMage

Remember, it is very difficult for Wardens to have children due to the Taint. The moment Mahariel was tainted by the Eluvian, their chances of reproducing became next to nil, rendering moot the big reason for a romantic relationship with another elf of the opposite gender. Merrill did not have this 'get-out-of-parenthood-free card', leading to the conflict. Unless a Dalish companion is a Warden, which is possible but unlikely, as Duncan said Dalish are rare among the Wardens, then the same conflict would apply.--TheFereldenMagister (talk) 18:59, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

How's about they not give us another naive or bitchy elven mage? That's been done, and redone. If Dalish are to return, I would hope they would be a fighter as opposed to a caster. EzzyD (talk) 20:47, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

@Thehumanelder I'm not sure what you mean by a Elven/Human relationship is possible. Personality doesn't have much to do with it. Elven and Human children appear completely Human and for a race that depends on each other for day to day survival, romancing and reproducing with a Human is only putting the Elves one step closer to extinction.

@TheRageMage I'd rather have a Elf go with Duty. It's more realistic for he DA universe. That's not to say I don't love a great romantic epic lol, but that's what fanfiction is for.

@TheFereldenMagister It's not completely impossible for a female Dalsih, City, or Circle Elf to have a child with Zevran. Now a Warden on Warden attempt at a baby? That would be a miracle child truly lol. It's difficult for a Warden/Non-Warden, but not impossible. I always wanted to romance Fenris and Merrill (and stop her from her craziness lol), but I never could because Hawke was Human. At least I can be an Elf again in DA:I, thank the Creators, the Stone, and the Maker lol! --Jamirflyd (talk) 21:35, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

To tell the truth, I've always been fascinated with the magical knowledge of the elven, especially the arcane warrior style, it would be something new to add this specific specialization to a companion, even more, then we won't have to follow to overused patter of elven archers like in other games, and we won't be as annoyed about having a mage, for it won't follow the patter of either circle related or blood magic use. --Sambrion (talk) 18:55, December 16, 2013 (UTC)Sambrion

I don't think we will see the arcane warrior agin specifically for gameplay reasons.Thehumaneldar (talk) 21:17, December 16, 2013 (UTC)

There is no "we", I am done with Dalish mages in DA games. I am more fascinated by qunari tech.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 21:20, December 16, 2013 (UTC)

i was talking about class specialization and you can't get rid of dalish mages they are likely going to be in game, might not be a companion but have some importance knowing the problems we have to deal with in inquisitionThehumaneldar (talk) 01:40, December 17, 2013 (UTC)