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Hi, I was just wondering about other peoples opinions or answers about what Tamlen sees in the now broken Eluvian. He say that he saw an underground city, does anyone know what he saw? I was kind of thinking he saw Cadash Thaig, since it is underground, and has links to ancient Arlathan. Also, is Elora an apostate? Because I saw her cast shock while fighting werewolves, and the wiki says she casts more spells. So is she a mage? Because the Runic Golem casts spells too... but its a golem. OH I just had an idea, if Elven or Human mages are made into golems, can they still cast spells?

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I think that it was possibly Cadash thaig for the reasons you mentioned and it explains the appearance of the Darkspawn, or perhaps it is a different underground city. Elora, Zathrian and all Dalish mages are apostates, it is also one of the main reasons that the Dalish are nomadic because the Templars hunt them. And I think the runic golem wouldn't count as an apostate but may be the target of Templars. I think the runic golem was one of the may experimental types of golems that the Dwarves and the mages of the Tevinter Imperium created. I don't know about your last question though, maybe they do originally but perhaps they forget? As Shale (obviously not a mage, but using her as an example) can't remember much of her past because it was centuries ago. Desmond Cousland (talk) 10:33, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

That might be due to her long period of inactivity, Wilhelm's tampering or the desire demon's influence. However, due to the sheer amount of lyrium involved in forging a golem, I don't think mages would retain their gift. Then again, no-one has even attempted to make a non-dwarf into a golem, so there is no lore to support any hypothesis. DarkosCY (talk) 12:29, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

Mage's that live with the Dalish are indeed Apostate's, many of them being Hedge Witch's. I doubt that it's Cadash Thaig he saw in the mirror, as their is no Eluvian in Cadash Thaig. Golem's are only magical because of the powers of the anvil of the void, Their abilities are closer to enchantment than magic.--TheGreyestWarden (talk) 13:46, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

True, I'd like to think it is some darkspawn city, with some of the original Tevinter magister's as sentient darkspawn, but that is only a theory. If you read the ending dialogue assuming you sided with Harrowmont and preserved the anvil, Harrowmont sends out bands of Dwarves to capture humans and Elves to be sacrificed at the anvil to save the dwindling Dwarven population from being forced into being golems. Desmond Cousland (talk) 10:15, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm good questions, though I think that the underground place Tamlen saw was probably the nest, where Morrigan's Eluvien was. Although if it was a city he saw then Cadash Thaig is possible. On the subject of Golems using magic I'm not sure, the codex doesn't really say much on whether the ability comes from someone's body or spirit so it's pretty much up in the air for now...--Telietoons (talk) 03:38, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for answers people :) anyway, I guess it could be the nest since their is some tevinter architecture, but not much. And the broken shard was used to scry there as well, maybe because it was the last place it saw? DalishousFoot (talk) 05:00, January 22, 2011 (UTC)