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Since there's going to be a lot of new codex entries with Dragon Age II, I wanted to know how we are going to deal with them.

The categories. I don't think anyone would object to creating game specific codex categories, although the naming may be, e.g. "Dragon Age II codex entries" or "Dragon Age II codices" (to include anything related to codex, e.g., a section page like Codex: Creatures). I know there's Category:Codex: Leliana's Song, but the naming makes it sound like there's a section named like that.

Since sections for Origins and DA2 may be the same (e.g., "Codex: Characters"), I'd like to know what would the preference for naming the category, as well as how we categorize the categories.

Default naming. Unless I was completely wrong, all codex entries replaced the Warden's name by "the Warden" (or "the Warden-Commander" for Awakening). There wasn't an indication when the character's name appeared vs. when it was really written the Warden.

With Dragon Age II, I suppose we'd replace the name with "Hawke" (which is a bit weird since it's also the last name), all his and her to "their", daughter/son to "child", sister/brother to "sibling" (unless we decide to keep the default names and the original words altogether). I'm wondering if we should highlight the words/change them to denote that this has been modified by us?

On a related note, I have moved all codex entries "Codex Entry" to "Codex entry" (in accordance to our naming policy to use lowercase). Pages linking to these articles are currently being updated. --D. (talk · contr) 18:44, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

I prefer "Dragon Age II codex entries", than "Dragon Age II codices". As for the naming preference, I like to suggest something like "Codex: Characters (Dragon Age II)" and for the default naming, we can use "Hawke" as you have suggested. -- Snfonseka (Talk) 14:41, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

"Dragon Age II codex entries" have been created. The categories for sections will be created once the template is updated. Genderless form for Hawke is used when appropriate.

Other codex entries that aren't from Origins, Awakening, Dragon Age II or Leliana's Song will temporarily be in "Category:Codex entries". I don't know if there's enough codex entries per DLC to warrant them. I personally do not mind creating them.

"Codex" will eventually be replaced by "Codices", per using plural form for categories. --D. (talk · contr) 02:54, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Also I think we should follow the standard renaming guidelines that we agreed, for the codex pages also. For example Codex: Characters (Dragon Age II) should be there for DA2 character codices. -- Snfonseka (Talk) 03:09, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that would be the most logical.

I haven't checked in details, but I think there are codex entries which are the same as Origins (I don't know if they get more text as you progress though). I would like to have the codex icons for DA2 to appear when appropriate (e.g., all DA2 articles would have the DA2 icon, DAO articles would have DAO's), but I can't think of a way to do it at the moment without splitting the pages. --D. (talk · contr) 06:35, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

I started creating Codex pages and I just ran into the problem of some entries being the same in Origins and in DA2. Specifically Codex: Places you can see that the places overlap and most of them have the exact same text... the only problem is that the summary tables don't work in DA2(no numbers and different locations) We need to figure out if we're going to change the template or make new pages just for DA2. Also I've started organizing everything into categories and so far have category:Codex sections (Dragon Age II) and I've made Codex (Dragon Age II). Bwaffles (talk) 07:20, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

I think it'd be silly to split the pages, unless we transcluded the text so only the infoboxes are different... but it's not really the best solution. One way would be to make the infobox appear a certain way if it is specified, but it would not change it on the individual page. --D. (talk · contr) 17:58, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

I saw that codex entries like Codex entry: Carver - After the Deep Roads was nominated for deletion and the text was moved to Codex Entry: Carver - After the Deep Roads. I understand they are about the same subject, but they are different codex entries. I'd think they're better off if they're actually separated, as oppose to the codex entry being updated. Thoughts? --D. (talk · contr) 17:58, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with you, if it's an actual separate entry in the codex it should be its own article. I was the one that put it up for deletion, I hadn't unlocked that entry in the game and didn't know it was on its own, was a mistake on my part. I also notice a new codex section Codex: Culture and History (Dragon Age II) and it looks like in the game it's actually titled Codex: Lore. There are only a few entries right now, and along with the previous suggestion of keeping things written like they are in the game, I think it should be changed as well. Bwaffles (talk) 03:07, March 17, 2011 (UTC)