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I'd suspect they'd avoid these senarios in any movie to avoid canon, and if they did choose one, it would probably be the first pre-built history you choose in DAII. Plus, Hawke can't side with the mages and become the Viscount. [[Special:Contributions/168.103.93.227|168.103.93.227]] ([[User talk:168.103.93.227|talk]]) 21:35, June 5, 2011 (UTC)
 
I'd suspect they'd avoid these senarios in any movie to avoid canon, and if they did choose one, it would probably be the first pre-built history you choose in DAII. Plus, Hawke can't side with the mages and become the Viscount. [[Special:Contributions/168.103.93.227|168.103.93.227]] ([[User talk:168.103.93.227|talk]]) 21:35, June 5, 2011 (UTC)
 
:The female Jedi exile in SWKOTOR2 couldnt gain Brianna as a companion, but it was established canon that she did. Anyway, canonocity sucks. Why cant movies and shows just be prequals to things like DA? That way, poeple like me dont get upset that our choices dont count, and people like... uh... you know... dont get... whatever. [[Special:Contributions/99.129.25.66|99.129.25.66]] ([[User talk:99.129.25.66|talk]]) 00:00, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
 
:The female Jedi exile in SWKOTOR2 couldnt gain Brianna as a companion, but it was established canon that she did. Anyway, canonocity sucks. Why cant movies and shows just be prequals to things like DA? That way, poeple like me dont get upset that our choices dont count, and people like... uh... you know... dont get... whatever. [[Special:Contributions/99.129.25.66|99.129.25.66]] ([[User talk:99.129.25.66|talk]]) 00:00, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
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Ugh, canon. I hated it when Lucasarts did that to Revan (Light Side, male, gets Bastila Shan in the end), and the Exile (Light Side and female, to appease the fans who asked why Revan couldn't be canonicaly female) and, IIRC, the guys at Bioware weren't exactly thrilled at the prospect, either.
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I hope that, at least, they haven't forgotten that, although they've apparently forgotten about the backlash that making Revan disappear caused back in the day.
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Oh well. [[User:Durwen|Durwen]] ([[User talk:Durwen|talk]]) 08:47, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

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Ok,I think I know what is canon in Dragon Age: The Warden:

Human Noble Warrior(Champion-Templar or Reaver)

Aedan Cousland

Good

Mage Friend

Saves Connor and his Mother,releases Jowan(goes by the Circle's Ritual)

Convinces Zathrian and The Lady of the Forest to sacrifice

Saves The Ashes of Andraste from the Cult,lets the brother to tell everyone about the ashes

Cures Arl Eamon

Puts Harrowmont as king,kills Branka

Spares Loghain,puts Alistair as king

Dark Ritual

Kills Archdemon

Spares Architect

Kills Mother

All of his companions in DAO and DAA survive.

Hawke:

Garret

Mage(Force,Healer)

works for Meeran

aCCEPTS Dougals offer

Puts Carver as a Warden

Qunari Friend

Kills Dougal

Kills Arishok

Becomes Champion and Viscount

Sides with the mages

Spares Anders,lets Sebastian leave

Kill Meredith

Dissapears.

Hexlord (talk) 14:30, June 5, 2011 (UTC) -->Hexlord

http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Imported_saves_and_pre-built_histories

Human Noble
Mages, Dalish, and Harrowmount recruited.
Caridin supported and Ashes disappeared.
Alistair rules alone and Loghain is killed.
Dark Ritual accepted and the Warden kills Archie.
Zevran, Shale, Avernus, and Sophia Dryden survive. Cailan's body is not recovered.
Amaranthine is saved, Vigil's Keep is destroyed, and Nathaniel Howe dies.

Amusingly, the most important world-changing decision in DA:A (to allow/deny Architect's agenda) is not recorded.

As for DA2, I'm going with the apologists' excuses from early on... Varric made it all up. User:Futonrevoltion

Shale survivies? Of course she survives. There's no way to kill her...is there? I might have forgotten. Quirkynature (talk) 14:55, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

If you take her to Deep Roads and side with Bianca, she sides with Caridin and you have to kill her. Dorquemada (talk) 14:58, June 5, 2011 (UTC)
That happen even if her approval is almost 100? Quirkynature (talk) 15:01, June 5, 2011 (UTC)
Yep. Dorquemada (talk) 15:05, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

I thought that the warden was a saint,not a cult-siding bitch.And that he would do anything for every1 to be happy,even Loghain.Hexlord (talk) 15:00, June 5, 2011 (UTC) -->Hexlord

Though the Warden reflects what kind of person the player is, I'd hold off on canonizing yourself, as a saint and/or Laidlaw's decree from on high. User: Futonrevoltion

The only things that are cannon are the things that will happen in every playthrough regardless of decisions made. A new recruit joined the Wardens at Ostagar. That is canon. That recruit and Alistair gathered the treaties to build an army. That is canon. Which armies they were (Mages or Templar, Dalish or Werewolves) is not canon. They called a Landsmeet to challenge Loghain. That is canon. The outcome is not canon. The Arch Demon was killed and the Blight ended. That is canon. Who struck the killing blow and whether or not the Dark Ritual was performed, those are not canon. Leliana is alive in DA2. That is canon. Whether she survived Origins or was returned to life somehow in Haven is not canon. Rayvio (talk) 16:18, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Exactly. I read somewhere(can't really remember) that Gaider or Laidlaw said there was no such thing as canon in Dragon Age. Canon is whatever you want it to be by playing through it. Mind you, they may do the OP's scenario for the movie or something. --CommanderCousland (talk) 19:02, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

What do you want to achieve with this? Establish your playthrough as canon? I don't get the point. There are multiple canons, DA II didn't have a singular canon, so why should future installments have a singular true canon? Lemonaidz (talk) 19:49, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

I'd suspect they'd avoid these senarios in any movie to avoid canon, and if they did choose one, it would probably be the first pre-built history you choose in DAII. Plus, Hawke can't side with the mages and become the Viscount. 168.103.93.227 (talk) 21:35, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

The female Jedi exile in SWKOTOR2 couldnt gain Brianna as a companion, but it was established canon that she did. Anyway, canonocity sucks. Why cant movies and shows just be prequals to things like DA? That way, poeple like me dont get upset that our choices dont count, and people like... uh... you know... dont get... whatever. 99.129.25.66 (talk) 00:00, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Ugh, canon. I hated it when Lucasarts did that to Revan (Light Side, male, gets Bastila Shan in the end), and the Exile (Light Side and female, to appease the fans who asked why Revan couldn't be canonicaly female) and, IIRC, the guys at Bioware weren't exactly thrilled at the prospect, either.

I hope that, at least, they haven't forgotten that, although they've apparently forgotten about the backlash that making Revan disappear caused back in the day.

Oh well. Durwen (talk) 08:47, June 6, 2011 (UTC)