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I saw a video a couple of days ago talking about updates on the new Dragon Age, and later in the video it mentions the Bioware has made it canon that the Warden was a Dalish elf who sacrificed himself fighting the Archdemon. I'm really hoping this is not true but it may be. Even though it's Bioware canon and our decisions will still matter in Inquisition, does this kind of bum you guys out knowing that in Bioware lore this could be true that the Warden died and the God child didn't even exist?

Here's the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVRjIkmDqMw —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nexusj13 (talk • contribs)

hope you didn't hurt yourself, jumping to conclusions like that. They had to select one canon and it might as well be a Dalish. Better than human noble. This canon is for the new players who don't know the story of the previous games, so it doesn't matter for them. All the other players familar with the games will either import a save file or go through a checklist to recreate the choices made in previous games. Henio0 (talk) 08:08, August 10, 2013 (UTC)

Bioware created three "canon" for Dragon Age 2 if you didn't have a save to import from Origins, and they're on this site http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Imported_saves_and_pre-built_histories While Bioware has a canon, it doesn't necessarily mean it overwrites our playthroughs and characters. It just means that they need a reference point when it comes to the comics and novels. --Madasamadthing (talk) 14:11, August 10, 2013 (UTC)

This is similar to what they did in Mass Effect for the "canon" story. Basically they take the easiest canon to write through and add and/or change it as needed for each possible save import. This also serves as a fantastic advertisement and/or reason for those who have not yet bought Origins or DA2, to do so in order to make the base game story more palatable. While the Dalish import is not the worst option, by no means is it the most popular either, and many will not like it so they MAY go buy the other games to change it. It isn't really canon, that's a misnomer really. It's just a basis on which to complete the story for the game. The methods of changing it in such a fashion are relatively easy. Though it might mean our decisions made previously, while they will have an effect, won't be quite as far-reachingly importantly as we'd like. The Grey Unknown (talk) 15:43, August 10, 2013 (UTC)

So what is the entire list of decisions for this canon? Dalish elf, King Alistair, and no OGB. What else? Who is King of Orzammar? What happened to Connor? What became of the Urn? Who did Mahariel romance (if Mahariel romanced at all)? And since the US is BioWare's canon, what do we know about their Orlesian Warden? Did the Architect live or die? And what about Hawke? DAWUSS (talk) 23:15, August 10, 2013 (UTC)

Probably no romance. Bioware defaults never have romance. For some other choices, Mark Darrah's tweet is here: DAO: Dalish Elf, warden dead, Alistair king, DA2: Mage, sides with Mages

It maybe that this Dalish Warden is based on the Martyr preset. Molon (talk) 23:56, August 10, 2013 (UTC)

It's a bit weird, because I thought the Dalish Elf/Sacrifice option for DA2 was for a female Mahariel... - Wandrew (talk) 03:33, August 11, 2013 (UTC)

And why is that weird exactly? Raoniluna (talk) 15:15, August 11, 2013 (UTC)

I'm in the same boat with the other guy. I always thought that the Human, and Dwarf pre-builts were both male, and the Elf pre-built was a female. Though when you think about it, why do any of them have to be male or female? Why can't they all be female, or all be male? And does it really matter what gender Bioware's cannon is? If their choices don't line up with yours then don't pay attention to it, I suppose. B.S.S.T. (talk) 19:02, August 11, 2013 (UTC).

Actually Mark Darrah didn't say anything about the gender of the Warden. His tweet about it is here, so I don't know why the OP used male pronouns. It's probably actually female because of the Martyr pre-built history. Anyway this is really just for the people that didn't play DAO and DA2. There must be a default for them, the Warden must be set to an origin and gender for them. Everyone else can import or however way Bioware's going to let this be changed. Molon (talk) 19:41, August 11, 2013 (UTC)