The templars have left Val Royeaux and refuse to negotiate with anyone. Gather enough Power, then work with the advisors to make contact with the templars.
- 1 Acquisition
- 2 Walkthrough
- 2.1 Meet the templar contact
- 2.2 Raise the flags in order of importance
- 2.3 Meet the Lord Seeker
- 2.4 Fight through the corrupted templars
- 2.5 Confront the Lord Seeker
- 2.6 Find a way out
- 2.7 Escape the Chantry
- 2.8 Escape the prison
- 2.9 Escape the forest
- 2.10 Holding the Great Hall
- 2.11 Talk to Knight-Templar Barris
- 2.12 Hold off the red templars
- 2.13 Confront the envy demon
- 2.14 Return to the Great Hall
- 2.15 Back at Haven
- 3 Rewards
- 4 Results
- 5 Notable items
- 6 Codex entries
- 7 Notes
- 8 Trivia
- 9 Bugs
- 10 Gallery
Acquisition[edit | edit source]
Walkthrough[edit | edit source]
Leliana and Josephine have been working tirelessly to convince, coerce, and win over some of Orlais' most influential houses. Ten noble families will help the Inquisition pressure the templars into sealing the Breach, traveling to Therinfal Redoubt and demanding the Lord Seeker deal with them or face the wrath of Orlais. The Inquisition has promised the Herald of Andraste as its voice in these negotiations. Recommended Levels: 4 to 7
Upon arriving at Therinfal Redoubt, a cutscene will begin and Lord Esmeral Abernache introduces himself to the Herald:
Lord Abernache: Care to mark the moment? Ten Orlesian houses walk with you.
- (Nobility Knowledge) I celebrate this pairing.
- Of course.
- Perhaps an overblown speech?
- Cassandra Slightly Disapproves
Iron Bull Slightly Approves
Sera Slightly Approves
Varric Slightly Approves
- Save it for the Lord Seeker.
After the scene, Codex entry: Therinfal Redoubt will unlock. Turn around and head down the hill to pick up some gold.
Meet the templar contact[edit | edit source]
Approach the nobles and templars to listen to their banter. A couple of loot stashes and a note can also be found. Speak to Knight-Templar Delrin Barris when ready. There are no approval changes for any available party members during the entire following sequence, so feel free to choose any dialogue options. Cassandra has a special dialogue choice at one point, however.
Barris will lead the Herald to some banners. The Lord Seeker has requested that they perform a ritual that all templars are required to do. The choice here has some secondary consequences:
- I'll do the ritual. - Performing the ritual allows for approval changes from party members. The courtyard can also be looted. However, Lord Abernache will die in the following cutscene.
- Take us to the Lord Seeker. - No ritual, corresponding approval changes or loot, but Lord Abernache survives.
If the ritual is not performed, skip down to Meet the Lord Seeker.
Raise the flags in order of importance[edit | edit source]
Use the wheels to raise the flags. As far as party approval goes, only the flag raised to the top matters. Party members will audibly hint at what they approve/disapprove of as the flags are moved. Full changes are as follows:
- Andraste first
- People first
- Templars first
Once the choice is made, Barris will ask you to explain your choice:
- I decided based on politics.
- Blackwall Slightly Disapproves
Iron Bull Slightly Approves
Sera slightly Disapproves
- I picked at random.
- I let faith guide me
- My reasons are my own
Loot the courtyard before entering the door, as this area will no longer be accessible.
Meet the Lord Seeker[edit | edit source]
A cutscene begins and how it plays out will differ depending on whether the ritual was skipped or not.
If the Herald performed the ritual:
Knight-Captain Denam: (Chuckles.) This is the grand alliance the Inquisition offers?
- Abernache, step back.
- Barris, what's wrong with him?
- Where is the Lord Seeker?
If the Herald skipped the ritual:
Knight-Captain Denam: So this is the herald of change. You are why everything must be moved ahead.
- I'm here to help.
- Barris, what's wrong with him?
- Where is the Lord Seeker?
Fight through the corrupted templars[edit | edit source]
Either way, once the conversation ends, red templars, including Denam, will attack. Barris will be fighting alongside the party. If Abernache lives, he will cower in a corner of the room. Once the battle is over, Barris will confirm that Denam is not dead, and the Herald says he will be judged later. The party will be fighting a mix of red templar knights and archers as they move through the castle to reach the Lord Seeker. There are no supply caches available during this portion, but friendly templars, as well as Barris, will be assisting the party. Use them as shields, if necessary.
A couple of knights will be just outside the door. To the right are two rooms to loot, and one of them is locked. Move up the stairs to find another locked room on the right. Eventually the party will exit onto the courtyard area, only higher up, and several enemies will need to be eliminated. After defeating them all, a nearby door to a mess hall will open and a couple of friendly templars will be engaging enemies. Codex entry: To Be Corrupted is found in this room as well as a note. Continue up the large stairs to encounter another battle with about the same number of enemies.
Confront the Lord Seeker[edit | edit source]
After the battle, find the locked door nearby that leads to the captain's quarters (Denam's quarters). Entering will trigger some dialogue from Barris. Speak to him to learn more. Of particular note in this room is the large loot chest at the foot of the writing desk. Barris says to make good use of it. It contains some random loot, but also always contains a .
Once that is done, move up the next set of stairs and through the door. The Lord Seeker will call out to the Herald. Scour the area for loot and, when ready, walk to the top of the stairs. A cutscene begins and the Lord Seeker grabs the Herald, pulling them through the door.
Find a way out[edit | edit source]
Move forward for a cutscene. The Lord Seeker is revealed to be an imposter: an Envy demon that assumed his form. Envy allowed the meeting with the Inquisition in the hope of "knowing" the Herald and assuming their form.
Proceed and the Herald will enter a conversation and have to make a dialogue choice. The choices have no practical effect on the quest. The point is to show that, no matter how the Herald answers, Envy learns a little bit more about them.
Move further into the room and some statues come to life breathing green flame. There are four statues and the inner two rotate. Use the sides of the room to navigate around the flames. If the flag ritual was performed, Envy will comment based on the Herald's choice.
Approach the final set of statues and a second voice will begin speaking, which will annoy Envy. To the left is a room blocked by a barricade that is different for each class (locked door for rogue, magical barrier for mage, bashable wall for warrior). Inside, examine the Inscription to begin the side quest Demonic Dogma. The Herald receives +1 Cunning. Leave the room, walk into the opposite doorway and it will shut automatically. Open the door to begin a scene with Cole. He will explain where the Herald is, what exactly is going on and how the Herald can escape.
Escape the Chantry[edit | edit source]
Follow Cole and the Herald will transition to a new area.
Escape the prison[edit | edit source]
The Herald appears in a room of jail cells. Note the open, dark cell to the right before moving forward into another conversation. The cells can be entered for some indications of what Envy may be hoping to accomplish as the Herald. Cole is in a cell at the far end of the corridor, on the right side. Speak to him, and a Veilfire brazier will appear once he vanishes.
Grab a torch and go back to the dark cell in the room of jail cells and pick up the Prison Key, then light braziers in the three cells with prisoners. A fourth brazier will appear at the end of the main corridor. When you light it, the wall will move backward and stop at another pair of rooms. Open the door on the right (the Prison Key is required for this door) and light the brazier inside. Move back out of the room and light the brazier that has again appeared on the back wall. This causes the wall to move back completely, revealing a cavern containing another inscription to examine. The Herald receives +2 Constitution. Leave the prison by passing Josephine's cell in the final pair of rooms before the secret cavern.
Escape the forest[edit | edit source]
After the conversation, exit out into the "forest." As the Herald proceeds, the landscape will become more familiar. There will initially be a couple of Lesser Shades accompanying the Herald, but they'll stop following at some point. Envy will attempt to goad the Herald into attacking the Imperial Army soldiers. They are all Level 1 so they won't be a challenge, but they are infinite. Cole will say that the Herald doesn't have to attack anyone. Indeed, all the Herald must do here is reach the point where Envy pulled them into this nightmare. If the Herald draws weapons, simply disengage. Also note that spires will pop out of the ground at random, similar to when attempting to close a Fade rift. These are more dangerous than any enemy here.
Once the quest marker is reached, a scene plays.
Holding the Great Hall[edit | edit source]
Another scene plays and Codex entry: Envy unlocks. Envy has retreated behind a barrier and the templars intend to dispel it. However, they will need uncorrupted lyrium and their uncorrupted lieutenants to proceed.
There are two new areas off of the Great Hall that will need to be visited at least once: the Upper Barracks and the Officers' Quarters. There are two entrances to each, one downstairs and one upstairs. Initially, only the lower doors are accessible. Be aware that there is only one supply cache for this portion of the quest. Another supply cache is located past the barrier. Some points to remember:
- The first time the party departs the Great Hall, the gauge will begin to tick down after a few moments. Every subsequent time the party leaves the Great Hall, the gauge will begin to tick down immediately.
- When a veteran is saved, the gauge increases slightly. The mission will fail if the gauge is completely emptied.
- A party member says they hear fighting when the gauge depletes by about half. Another will warn the Herald when the gauge is depleted by about 75%.
- Every time the party returns to the Great Hall, at least one Red Templar Horror will be there. There will be more depending on how much of the gauge has depleted before returning. At 50% depleted, there will be 3-4 Horrors; at 75% depleted there will be 4-5.
- Barris, the veterans and any other templars in the Great Hall are invincible. They can be used to draw threat and let some party members pick at them from range, or even the upper level.
- Important:If the gauge depletes by 75%, the next time the party returns and fends off the horrors, Barris will grunt uncomfortably. The Herald asks him if he's alright, and Barris will dismiss it. However, he will die after the templars dispel the barrier. If Barris lives, however, he is automatically recruited as an Agent for Cullen so it is wise to return to the hall before the gauge reachs this point. There are also war table operations that will only be available if he lives.
- The gauge quickly refills to maximum after defeating all Horrors in the Great Hall.
- Enemy groups can be avoided in order to conserve time and health. Combat Roll, Fade Step, and Stealth can all be used, as can simply disengaging and running. However, enemies assailing a veteran must be killed in order for the veteran to move to the Great Hall.
- The main objectives can be done in one trip to each area. Acquiring all available loot will likely require at least two trips to each area.
Before proceeding, exit the Great Hall. The templars will erect a barricade here after one of the new areas is entered. Examine the throne near the barrier to update Codex entry: Therinfal Redoubt.
There is no right way to do this, so the best advice is to get the veterans first, in order to make the defense of the Great Hall easier. Since there are two in the Upper Barracks, its better to go there first.
Upper Barracks[edit | edit source]
- Turn left immediately. Turn right at the top of the ramp into the open area; a set of stairs immediately to the left leads to a sack. A group of enemies is here but they can be bypassed. However, Codex entry: Majestic Bastards can be found in the small shed that they spawn near, as well as some gold. A couple more enemies will spawn if the party lingers near this area for too long after killing the initial group of enemies. There is a bashable wall directly across the yard, and it contains three loot boxes. Go through the door to the left of the bashable wall. Pass through this room, and turn left at the T-intersection. Assist the first veteran, Knight-Lieutenant Abrahas.
- Head back to the T-intersection and go up the large stairs. Assist the second veteran, Knight-Lieutenant duBois. There is a locked door here that leads down to a prison. There are two locked cells here. One contains a loot box and some gold and the other contains a couple of sacks and some gold. There is a stack of crates that can be destroyed to reveal a hidden cell with good loot in it. There is a list of prisoners nearby but reading it does not award any XP. If two rogues are in the party, use tactical camera to assign each of them to unlock a door in order to save a little time.
- Return to where the second veteran was encountered, head past the wooden structure, cross the bridge and enter the tower to find a door that leads back to the upper level of the Great Hall.
When returning to the Great Hall for the first time, be sure to knock down a ladder, so the party can climb back up. After dispatching the Horrors, loot the upper level and knock down the rest of the ladders. One chest contains the Templar Order Banner. There is also Codex entry: A Nutty Affair and another note.
Officers' Quarters[edit | edit source]
When ready, enter the Officers' Quarters from the second level.
- Head downstairs, cross the bridge, turn right and pass through a room. Assist the third veteran, Knight-Lieutenant Primmer.
- Head east, veer around the right side of the tower and cross a bridge (it's parallel to the one crossed earlier), picking up some gold along the way. Bash down the wall, and fall down the hole. This is the only way to enter this room, which contains a couple of loot boxes.
- Exit the room. Dispatch enemies and enter the tower directly across to find a sack. Enter the middle door across the courtyard. A scene will play with Cole, who informs the party of a plot to assassinate the Empress of Orlais. Afterwards, grab the Lord Seeker's Key and loot the large chest. This chest contains some random loot but always contains and a Bianca Arms II (if Varric is in the party, the upgrade will be installed automatically).
- Exit the room and turn right. Jump over the railing and open the door to the right (requires Lord Seeker's Key). Go up the stairs on the left and grab the lyrium cache. There is also a lyrium manifest on a table. There are three loot boxes in this room and a note. By this time, a couple more enemies may have spawned in the courtyard, but they can be avoided.
- Exit the room and veer to the left and enter the large archway. Turn right to reach the exit back to the Great Hall.
Talk to Knight-Templar Barris[edit | edit source]
Hold off the red templars[edit | edit source]
Barris, Fletcher and the three lieutenants will now dispel the barrier and the party must fight off waves of red templars. There is a gauge that indicates Magic Barrier Strength, and it takes about two minutes to fully deplete. The party will face waves of 6 enemies: 2 each of knights, archers and horrors. Most of a wave must be dispatched before more enemies will spawn.
Because this fight is timed, a good strategy worth considering is retreating to the entrance of the hall and letting enemies waste time reaching the party. As soon as the fight begins, run back to the entrance and disengage to move faster. Use the tactical camera to position melee fighters just behind a column, and an archer or mage just a bit further behind them. When using the tactical camera to order party members to move to a point, select the point twice and the party member will move to that point and hold position. Archers and mages will weaken or kill enemies as they move down the hall, so that melee party members can finish them off when they get in range. This also forces enemies to move into choke points, allowing AoE skills/spells/combos/grenades to be very efficient. Enemy knights will generally charge the party, allowing melee fighters to kill them. Weakened enemy archers may move past the columns and then immediately run away, making them almost useless. The horrors tend to stay back and fight at range, but they become easy pickings once the archers and knights are defeated. A downside to this strategy is that if an entire wave is defeated quickly, the party may disengage on their own while the next wave is spawning, and the player may have to position them again. If they do disengage, just be quick and order them to hold position again.
Any remaining enemies will die immediately once the barrier is dispelled.
Once the barrier is down, go up the stairs on the right and make a u-turn at the top to find a supply cache if needed. Codex entry: Her Perfumed Sanctuary is located on the pews on the right.
Confront the envy demon[edit | edit source]
The Envy demon fights much like a Terror demon. It can be level 6-8 with 21,000-32,000 HP. It is immune to all disabling effects. Much like a terror demon, it will do an AoE attack that slows down nearby party members. However, Envy's attack also does spirit damage and inflicts the fear status (much like the Horror spell). A mage can use Dispel to get rid of the fear status but not the slowdown effect. After it does this attack, it always goes underground. When it emerges it will throw spirit projectiles. Its melee attacks can hit multiple party members.
Once it loses about a third of its health, it will move behind a barrier and summon Red Templars as backup. Cole will say "it's trying to hide." Envy will then transform into a large, black shape, with glowing eyes, similar to how it looked in the nightmare portion and its attack style will change (perhaps mimicking the Herald). Once it takes the black form, Cole will join the fight until Envy is dead. Consider turning off any warrior's taunting skills after Cole joins, as he has a limitless supply of potions and Envy will attack him fairly consistently if not taunted.
When it has about a third of its health left, it will return to its default form and spires will begin erupting from the ground, similar to when closing a rift. From this point it's a matter of the party's healing potions outlasting Envy's health.
(if Trespasser is installed)
Return to the Great Hall[edit | edit source]
Barris approaches from the main hall (or Fletcher, if Barris died), with the surviving templars and Abernache, if he also survived. The Herald must decide how to receive the templars' aid.
If Lord Abernache survived:
Abernache: I do hope it won't effect our concord.
- You're still a needed ally.
- You can still serve.
- Just get out of my way.
Barris (or Fletcher): The templars are ready to hear what the Inquisition needs of us.
- (Special) Andraste sent me to you. (faithful Herald only)
- We need true templars.
- Help against the Breach. Fast.
- You know what you need to do.
Barris: But the Order is leaderless, gutted by betrayal. We must rebuild it.
- Rebuild as our partners. (Ask the templars to join you as free allies)
- Blackwall Approves
Cassandra Greatly Approves
Iron Bull Greatly Approves
Sera Greatly Disapproves
Solas Greatly Disapproves
Varric Slightly Approves (only if he was brought for the quest)
- Cole Greatly Disapproves (occurs even though it's not yet recruited and it is not stated in-game)
- Dorian Greatly Disapproves (occurs even though he's not yet recruited and it is not stated in-game)
- Points awarded to candidates up for Divine Election: Leliana +1, Cassandra +10, Vivienne +5
- Then yield and serve us. (Convince the templars to disband and become part of the Inquisition instead)
- Blackwall Disapproves
Iron Bull Disapproves
Sera Greatly Approves
Solas Greatly Approves
Vivienne Slightly Disapproves
- Cole Greatly Approves (occurs even though it's not yet recruited and it is not stated in-game)
- Dorian Greatly Disapproves (occurs even though he's not yet recruited and it is not stated in-game)
- Points awarded to candidates up for Divine Election: Leliana +1, Cassandra +5, Vivienne -5
Either way, the templars join the Inquisition in the effort to seal the Breach.
Back at Haven[edit | edit source]
Two codex unlock at this point: Codex entry: Red Templars and Codex entry: Champions of the Just. Leliana or Cullen will berate the Herald depending on whether the templars are allies or conscripts. With the Underworld Knowledge perk you can trigger the war table operation Secure More Lyrium for the Templars at the first dialogue choice.
Cole will appear on the war table and eventually the Herald must decide whether to accept his help.
Cole: I want to do that. I can help.
- Q What kind of help?
- He can stay; he's trustworthy.
- He's too dangerous. Kill him.
If Cole is not recruited, he makes everyone forget about him and disappears.
The quest comes to an end as preparations are underway to receive the templars and seal the Breach.
Rewards[edit | edit source]
Escaping the forest yields
- 512 XP
- 200 Influence
- 2 Power
Completing the quest yields
- 2,658 XP
- 1,600 Influence
- 3 Power
- 50 Influence
- 1 Power
Results[edit | edit source]
- The Templars are recruited to seal the Breach, thus they are saved from their fate
- The Mages are left to their fate
- The war table operation Nobility and Casualty becomes available
- (Optional) Cole joins the Inquisition
- (Optional) Ser Barris' war table operations become available (if he survives and the templars are recruited as free allies)
- (Optional) The war table operation The Order's Obligations becomes available (if the templars are allies)
- (Optional) The war table operation Negotiate with Hasmal's Templars becomes available (if the templars are conscripted)
- (Optional) The war table operation Investigate Redcliffe Castle can be made available when speaking to Krem in Haven
Notable items[edit | edit source]
- - In a chest in Knight-Captain Denam's Quarters
- - In the Lord Seeker's room
- - Only if Varric is in the party
- - In the jail, on the Upper Barracks side of the Great Hall (destroy the crates in front of the cell to gain access)
- - Looted from the envy demon
- - Looted from the envy demon (Trespasser required)
- - In a chest on the upper level of the Great Hall
Codex entries[edit | edit source]
- Codex entry: Therinfal Redoubt
- Codex entry: Red Templar Archers
- Codex entry: Red Templar Foot Soldier
- Codex entry: To Be Corrupted
- Codex entry: Envy
- Codex entry: Horror
- Codex entry: Majestic Bastards
- Codex entry: A Nutty Affair
- Codex entry: Her Perfumed Sanctuary
- Codex entry: Red Templars
- Codex entry: Champions of the Just
- Codex entry: Cole
- Notes and Letters from Therinfal
- Lyrium Manifest
Notes[edit | edit source]
- Any codex entries from Redcliffe Castle (only accessible by siding with the mages in In Hushed Whispers) will be available for purchase from Willvan in Val Royeaux with the completion of the quest.
- The Great Hall can be exited and entered indefinitely. Red Templar Horrors drop Everknit Wool, Red Lyrium (used to craft corrupting runes), and Horror Claws. They also drop Essence Containment Apparatuses, three of which are required for the Tempest specialization.
- Companions are able to pass freely through the barrier in the Great Hall while not controlled by the player. This makes it possible to get the whole party past the barrier without destroying it by switching to a companion while they are on the other side. This will not advance the quest, however, so the Great Hall still has to be completed in order to confront Envy.
- Glowing ravens can be spotted watching the Herald when they first enter Therinfal Redoubt. One is on the wall to the left of the entrance and across the bridge and another is perched high atop some scaffolding to the right of where Ser Barris is waiting for the Herald.
Trivia[edit | edit source]
- Most of the quest names in the main plot refer to specific verses of the Chant of Light. "The champions of the just" can be found in the Canticle of Benedictions 4:10.
Bugs[edit | edit source]
- Any loot dropped from enemies in the upper courtyard area, and not picked up, will still be laying there when the Herald passes through the same areas during the nightmare portion.
- Sometimes the Prison Key is simply not there and therefore cannot be obtained.
- Getting stuck on the other side of the green force field.
- Characters might remain in T-pose during the cutscene immediately preceding the final battle with Envy. During the battle itself, the Herald may also remain in T-pose, which leaves certain abilities bugged and unusable.