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  Not sure if "notes" would be the proper term for this category, as it also includes such things as Landmarks and Samsen's short story. Perhaps moving the notes into their own separate category would be a better alternative. --Kelcat Talk 06:31, June 3, 2015 (UTC)

Nope Agree with kelcat, they're not all notes. I think texts lets us cover a broader array of items without trying to cram too much into one category -Seekers of Truth heraldryHD3 (Talk) 13:53, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

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This shall become a collection of all those notes only readable in veilfire – to see, how much of them exist and if a separate category or listing would make sense. I place my signature here, the list will follow then; updates will not include a new sig (I hope, this is okay). -- UserCCCSig -- You talkin' to me? -- cCContributions -- 12:32, July 19, 2017 (UTC)

  1. Note: Ancient Writing
  2. Note: An Apostate's Message

Inquisition Notes format discussion Edit

I think we should create a universal format for Inquisition notes, in order to simplify the process.

My suggestion is to treat the notes as codex entries (quick example). At the top we have the "See also" (optional). Afterwards the paragraph is named "Codex text" in this case it would be "Note text". After the note text we should have optional paragraphs: "Acquisition" typically needed when the listed location found inside the Template:NoteTransformer is not explanatory enough, then "Trivia", and finally "See also".

As it is the case with Codex entries, no screenshots of the ingame text of the notes should be added ("Gallery" paragraph). It serves no purpose since you have already extracted the content of the screenshot. A respectable number of them has been added around the wiki and it should be removed. Viktoria Landers 12:15, November 21, 2017 (UTC)

In general – fine by me! (Though I might have not the time at the moment to help a lot. "Guten Tag" – Big smiley )
That formatting basically would eliminate the introductory text, I placed in most notes I have done until now. That's something, where codex entries do deviate from the general layout of pages. As there for now are no plans to transform the notes, as it is done with many codex entries, might it be okay to keep that section? Of course acquisition content can be moved to its own section.
About that screenshot-gallery thing: I only tried to find a continuation of what I found on many, many pages that dealt with notes – many contributors have upped many screenshots of those notes, and added them to many articles (locations, quests). I simply didn't want to remove all their work.
And their purpose as "proof" for the correctness of the note: well, you can always look after that specific codex entry in your codex in-game – but these notes are gone after the message pop-up, and aren't comprehensible anymore. Do the screenshots hurt? -- UserCCCSig -- You talkin' to me? -- cCContributions -- 12:39, November 21, 2017 (UTC)
Frankly I think we should treat Inquisition's notes in the same manner as Codex: Notes of Origins, they just don't have the word "Codex entry:" in front of them. So what happens in codex entries should happen to notes. If one gets an introduction then so does the other.
As for the screenshots. I think it started this way, before people created independent pages for the notes. Now they have no use, frankly when I first read them I was confused I thought there was something new I could read in those. Also repeating the same text over with an image is reduntant, don't you agree? Viktoria Landers 13:23, November 21, 2017 (UTC)
"Go!" for the first topic.
How about placing the screenshots as IB image? Icon wink
It's been a lot of work, cleaning all those images up, giving them a pure black background, and such … But it still would require a lot more of work to do the same for all the remaining notes.
Perhaps somebody else has additional thoughts on this?
-- UserCCCSig -- You talkin' to me? -- cCContributions -- 13:42, November 21, 2017 (UTC)

I have discussed the subject with Comple in the chat too. But more opinions are definitely needed before we write down a solidified policy. Viktoria Landers 14:21, November 27, 2017 (UTC)

In chat you said something like that this was up to us, and no one else would care … Icon wink
To summarize:
  • No images anymore
  • Page structure similarly to codex entries
  • Possibly adjustments to {{NoteTransformer}}, to integrate more sections (related, see, trivia, etc.) into the infobox/transformer
If there are no different opinions for … say, until christmas, we will establish this as guideline, perhaps adding a note to appropriate ones.
Though I have to repeat that at the moment I do not have much, if any, time to care about the project.
One open question: as the note itself, its image wouldn't really fit as an infobox image – do we leave that empty in any case (and remove the field from the template) or do we allow a picture of the exact location of the note, where it's to be found?
-- UserCCCSig -- You talkin' to me? -- cCContributions -- 10:34, November 28, 2017 (UTC)
P.S. Please don't call me "Comple", Vikt … Icon wink Either use the full name (and I prefer a lower case initial letter) or for short "cCC". Smiley
Actually people call me Vik and I am pretty fine with it Smiley Anyway, cↄC, here is my opinion about the point you raised regarding the infobox image:

An item page shows the item in question and a codex entry shows an image of the related subject (eg. Andraste), a quest page shows a scene from the quest. In our case we should follow this guideline too, so I believe this note for example should have the picture of the bronto trophy in Winter Palace. If there isn't an appropriate picture which will be frequent considering many notes are too trivial and vague, we should show nothing. Viktoria Landers 14:34, November 28, 2017 (UTC)

I was asked to weigh in on this discussion; honestly I don't have much of an opinion about notes, but I agree there should be some sort of standardization. What you guys have listed here looks fine to me. Smiley Kelcat Talk 21:46, November 29, 2017 (UTC)

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