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'''Alistair's Family''' is [[Alistair's]] [[Companion Quest]]. Whilst this quest is fairly short and simple to complete, it can be crucial as one possible result is that Alistair's personality is '''hardened''', affecting his reactions at a number of points later in the campaign.
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'''Alistair's Family''' is [[Alistair]]'s [[companion quests (Origins)|companion quest]]. Whilst this quest is fairly short and simple to complete, it can be crucial as one possible result is that Alistair's personality is hardened, affecting his reactions at a number of points later in the campaign.
   
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== Acquisition ==
 
In order to receive this quest, Alistair must have approval of Warm or Interested (26+) and you need to know who Alistair's father is. This can be learned when entering [[Redcliffe Village]] the first time, but only if Alistair is in your party. If you missed this chance, you must finish [[The Urn of Sacred Ashes]] before it will be revealed.
 
In order to receive this quest, Alistair must have approval of Warm or Interested (26+) and you need to know who Alistair's father is. This can be learned when entering [[Redcliffe Village]] the first time, but only if Alistair is in your party. If you missed this chance, you must finish [[The Urn of Sacred Ashes]] before it will be revealed.
   
 
Once these prerequisites are met, the next time you initiate dialogue with Alistair (or go to [[Denerim]] with him in the party), he will tell you about his sister, [[Goldanna]], and ask to visit her next time the party is in the [[Denerim Market District]].
 
Once these prerequisites are met, the next time you initiate dialogue with Alistair (or go to [[Denerim]] with him in the party), he will tell you about his sister, [[Goldanna]], and ask to visit her next time the party is in the [[Denerim Market District]].
   
==Walkthrough==
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== Walkthrough ==
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#Find out about Alistair's parentage via one of the following methods:
*Head to Denerim with Alistair in your party. Once there, walk toward the market and Alistair will engage you in a cut scene and point out [[Goldanna's House]] (which is to the left of [[Wade's Emporium]]).
 
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#* Complete the [[The Urn of Sacred Ashes]] quest and heal [[Fereldan royalty and nobility#Arlings|Arl]] [[Eamon Guerrin]] (i.e. get the [[Gather the Army]] quest started).
*Walk into the house and Goldanna and Alistair will talk. Goldanna, it transpires, resents Alistair and is only interested in any money he can give her. You can give her money, or not: this doesn't affect the outcome of the quest or Alistair's approval.
 
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#* Visit [[Redcliffe Village]]. It is safe to visit the map for the parentage dialogue and leave quietly without approaching the bridge and [[Tomas]]. However, if you initiate the cut-scene with [[Tomas]], leaving immediately will result in the destruction of the village.
*Once the scene ends, you'll find yourself outside the house. There is the potential here, through dialogue, to "harden" Alistair's personality and change his reaction to certain events later in the story.
 
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#Visit [[Denerim Market District]] with Alistair. Approach [[Goldanna's House]] to the left/west of [[Wade's Emporium]]. Alistair will begin to babble.
'''To harden Alistair''', select the "Everyone is out for themselves. You should learn that." conversation option. Once Alistair's approval reaches Friendly or Adore, then the next time you speak to him (as long as your approval remains high enough) he will comment that he's been thinking about what you said and he agrees he should stand up for himself more. As long as you '''''do not''''' say "That's not what I meant. Don't do that!", then his personality will be [[Hardened]].
 
 
#Enter the house. Goldanna and Alistair will talk. She resents him and is only interested in money. Giving her money or not doesn't affect the outcome of the quest or Alistair's approval.
 
#Alistair drags you outside the house for another chat away from his sister. This chat may lead to [[Hardened|"hardening"]] Alistair's personality, changing his reaction to certain events later in the story.
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#(Optional, Story Consequences) [[Hardened|Harden]] Alistair with the following sequence:
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#* Respond "Everyone is out for themselves ..." to trigger the hardening dialogue in a subsequent conversation.
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#* Raise Alistair's approval to Friendly or Adore, if not already there.
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#* Chat with Alistair. He has been thinking and wants to stand up for himself more. Any response except "That's not what I meant. Don't do that!" will [[Hardened|harden]] him.
   
===Approval Guide/Dialogue===
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=== Approval guide/Dialogue ===
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Arriving at Denerim OR automatically triggered anywhere if warden tries to talk to him after giving his mother's amulet with warm approval
Arriving at Denerim
 
*Loghain will get what is coming to him, I promise you. {{Approval||+1}}
 
*That's wonderful news. {{Approval||+1}}
 
   
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; At the [[Party Camp]]<nowiki>:</nowiki>
In front of her house
 
*We don't have time for side trips. {{Approval||-5}}
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* Loghain will get what's coming to him, I promise you. {{Approval|+1}}
*If you want to, we could try. {{Approval||+1}}
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* That's wonderful news. {{Approval|+1}}
*You are such a coward! {{Approval||-1}}
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* If you want to, we could try. {{Approval|+1}}
*We don't have time for this, really. {{Approval||-1}}
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* We don't have time for side trips. {{Approval|-5}}
   
Inside Goldanna's house
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; In front of Goldanna's house<nowiki>:</nowiki>
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* If you want to, we could try. {{Approval|+1}}
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* You are such a coward! {{Approval|-1}}
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* We don't have time for this, really. {{Approval|-1}}
   
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; Inside Goldanna's house<nowiki>:</nowiki>
 
'''My what? I am Goldanna, yes... how do you know my name? What kind of tomfoolery are you folk up to?
 
'''My what? I am Goldanna, yes... how do you know my name? What kind of tomfoolery are you folk up to?
#He's telling the truth. Listen to him.
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# He's telling the truth. Listen to him.
#Are you sure your information was correct Alistair?
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# Are you sure your information was correct Alistair?
#Maybe you two should be left alone?
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# Maybe you two should be left alone?
#*I don't think this was a good idea.
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#* I don't think this was a good idea.
#*So is she everything you expected, Alistair? {{Approval||-1}}
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#* So is she everything you expected, Alistair? {{Approval|-1}}
#*That's hardly Alistair's fault, is it? {{Approval||+1}}
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#* That's hardly Alistair's fault, is it? {{Approval|+1}}
#**(Persuade) Goldanna, Alistair came here hoping to find his family. (Only works if the Warden is male. Party loses no money, Alistair promises, and conversation with her ends. If female the following options are available.)
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#** (Persuade) Goldanna, Alistair came here hoping to find his family. (Only works if the Warden is male. Party loses no money, Alistair promises, and conversation with her ends. If female the following options are available.)
#***Yes, go ahead if you like.
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#*** Yes, go ahead if you like.
#***If you must. She's better be grateful.
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#*** If you must. She'd better be grateful.
#***What? Are you joking? No way!
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#*** What? Are you joking? No way!
#**You've got some nerve talking to your brother like this.
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#** You've got some nerve talking to your brother like this.
#**This is your family. Pehaps you can help them out?
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#** This is your family. Pehaps you can help them out?
#***Let's leave. Now. (Alistair makes no promise and conversation with her ends.)
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#*** Let's leave. Now. (Alistair makes no promise and conversation with her ends.)
#***Yes, go ahead if you like. (if as an answer to giving her money party loses up to 15 sovereigns)
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#*** Yes, go ahead if you like. (if as an answer to giving her money party loses up to 15 {{g}})
#***It's true, you are going to be the king, after all... (Alistair promises to make sure she is looked after later and conversation with her ends.)
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#*** It's true, you are going to be the king, after all ... (Alistair promises to make sure she is looked after later and conversation with her ends.)
#**It looks like all she wants is your money.
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#** It looks like all she wants is your money.
#***Let's leave. Now.
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#*** Let's leave. Now.
#***Someone ought to cut that tongue of yours!
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#*** Someone ought to cut that tongue of yours!
#***Are you going to let her talk like that?!
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#*** Are you going to let her talk like that?!
#***This was a bad idea.
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#*** This was a bad idea.
   
 
; After leaving her house<nowiki>:</nowiki>
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* I don't know what to say. I'm sorry it turned out like this. {{Approval|+1}}
 
* Everyone is out for themselves. You should learn that. (Will prompt Alistair to have [[Hardened]] conversation later.)
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* You don't need her. You have others who care for you. {{Approval|+2}}
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**I don't know what to say. I'm sorry it turned out like this.
 
** I care about you. {{Approval|+2}} (only appears if romance is active)
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**You have friends, Alistair. I'm one of them.
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**I'm sure that's not true.
 
* I care about you. More than you know. {{Approval|+}} {{ColorPositiveStat|Activates romance}}
 
* That's how it goes. We should really get under way. {{Approval|-20}}
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{{Note|This Approval change happens even if Alistair is already at 100 Approval.}}
 
* You're an idiot. How naive can you get? {{Approval|-}} {{ColorNegativeStat|Approval set to 0 (even if Approval was already 100), ends romance}}
   
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; Back at Camp
After leaving her house
 
*I don't know what to say. I'm sorry it turned out like this. {{Approval||+1}}
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# We're in this together, Alistair. {{Approval|+2}}
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# I feel the same way. {{Approval|+1}}
*Everyone is out for themselves. You should learn that. (Alistair is [[Hardened]].)
 
*You don't need her. You have others who care for you. {{Approval||+2}}
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# If you say so. {{Approval|-}}
*I care about you. {{Approval||+2}} (only appears if romance is active)
 
*I care about you. More than you know. {{Approves}} {{ColorPositiveStat|Activates romance}}
 
*That's how it goes. We should really get under way. {{Approval||-20}}
 
*You're an idiot. How naive can you get? {{Disapproves}} {{ColorNegativeStat|Approval Set To 0, ends romance}}
 
   
==Result==
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== Result ==
The quest is marked as complete when the conversation with Alistair is ended outside Goldanna's house. Whether Alistair's personality is hardened can [[Hardened#Alistair|affect the game in a number of ways]].
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The quest is marked as complete when the conversation with Alistair is ended outside Goldanna's house. Whether Alistair's personality is hardened can [[Hardened#Alistair|affect the game in a number of ways]]. You also receive 250 XP for resolving this quest.
 
[[Category:Dragon Age: Origins companion quests]]
 
[[Category:Dragon Age: Origins companion quests]]

Revision as of 20:54, 24 March 2020

Alistair's Family is Alistair's companion quest. Whilst this quest is fairly short and simple to complete, it can be crucial as one possible result is that Alistair's personality is hardened, affecting his reactions at a number of points later in the campaign.

Acquisition

In order to receive this quest, Alistair must have approval of Warm or Interested (26+) and you need to know who Alistair's father is. This can be learned when entering Redcliffe Village the first time, but only if Alistair is in your party. If you missed this chance, you must finish The Urn of Sacred Ashes before it will be revealed.

Once these prerequisites are met, the next time you initiate dialogue with Alistair (or go to Denerim with him in the party), he will tell you about his sister, Goldanna, and ask to visit her next time the party is in the Denerim Market District.

Walkthrough

  1. Find out about Alistair's parentage via one of the following methods:
  2. Visit Denerim Market District with Alistair. Approach Goldanna's House to the left/west of Wade's Emporium. Alistair will begin to babble.
  3. Enter the house. Goldanna and Alistair will talk. She resents him and is only interested in money. Giving her money or not doesn't affect the outcome of the quest or Alistair's approval.
  4. Alistair drags you outside the house for another chat away from his sister. This chat may lead to "hardening" Alistair's personality, changing his reaction to certain events later in the story.
  5. (Optional, Story Consequences) Harden Alistair with the following sequence:
    • Respond "Everyone is out for themselves ..." to trigger the hardening dialogue in a subsequent conversation.
    • Raise Alistair's approval to Friendly or Adore, if not already there.
    • Chat with Alistair. He has been thinking and wants to stand up for himself more. Any response except "That's not what I meant. Don't do that!" will harden him.

Approval guide/Dialogue

Arriving at Denerim OR automatically triggered anywhere if warden tries to talk to him after giving his mother's amulet with warm approval

At the Party Camp:
  • Loghain will get what's coming to him, I promise you. Approves (+1)
  • That's wonderful news. Approves (+1)
  • If you want to, we could try. Approves (+1)
  • We don't have time for side trips. Disapproves (-5)
In front of Goldanna's house:
  • If you want to, we could try. Approves (+1)
  • You are such a coward! Disapproves (-1)
  • We don't have time for this, really. Disapproves (-1)
Inside Goldanna's house:

My what? I am Goldanna, yes... how do you know my name? What kind of tomfoolery are you folk up to?

  1. He's telling the truth. Listen to him.
  2. Are you sure your information was correct Alistair?
  3. Maybe you two should be left alone?
    • I don't think this was a good idea.
    • So is she everything you expected, Alistair? Disapproves (-1)
    • That's hardly Alistair's fault, is it? Approves (+1)
      • (Persuade) Goldanna, Alistair came here hoping to find his family. (Only works if the Warden is male. Party loses no money, Alistair promises, and conversation with her ends. If female the following options are available.)
        • Yes, go ahead if you like.
        • If you must. She'd better be grateful.
        • What? Are you joking? No way!
      • You've got some nerve talking to your brother like this.
      • This is your family. Pehaps you can help them out?
        • Let's leave. Now. (Alistair makes no promise and conversation with her ends.)
        • Yes, go ahead if you like. (if as an answer to giving her money party loses up to 15 Gold)
        • It's true, you are going to be the king, after all ... (Alistair promises to make sure she is looked after later and conversation with her ends.)
      • It looks like all she wants is your money.
        • Let's leave. Now.
        • Someone ought to cut that tongue of yours!
        • Are you going to let her talk like that?!
        • This was a bad idea.
After leaving her house:
  • I don't know what to say. I'm sorry it turned out like this. Approves (+1)
  • Everyone is out for themselves. You should learn that. (Will prompt Alistair to have Hardened conversation later.)
  • You don't need her. You have others who care for you. Approves (+2)
    • I don't know what to say. I'm sorry it turned out like this.
    • I care about you. Approves (+2) (only appears if romance is active)
    • You have friends, Alistair. I'm one of them.
    • I'm sure that's not true.
  • I care about you. More than you know. Ico Appr Heart Activates romance
  • That's how it goes. We should really get under way. Disapproves (-20)
Note: This Approval change happens even if Alistair is already at 100 Approval.
  • You're an idiot. How naive can you get? Ico DisAppr Heart Approval set to 0 (even if Approval was already 100), ends romance
Back at Camp
  1. We're in this together, Alistair. Approves (+2)
  2. I feel the same way. Approves (+1)
  3. If you say so. Ico DisAppr Heart

Result

The quest is marked as complete when the conversation with Alistair is ended outside Goldanna's house. Whether Alistair's personality is hardened can affect the game in a number of ways. You also receive 250 XP for resolving this quest.